FDA website giving battery safety tips for ecigs.

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Does anyone need a 20amp cdr battery to run a radio or a flashlight?
Have you seen what some of the flashlight guys are doing? Some of their lights need multiple 18650 cells to run! And single 18650 lights are now pushing over 2000 lumens.

That said, I think the original purpose for high CDR 18650s was cordless power tool battery packs...
 

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Didn't one of the versions of Cole-Bishop do pretty much exactly that?

I can't remember whether it was the amendment or the stand-alone bill.

And yes, I know neither has passed.


Lol.
Ill take any odds you wanna give.

It won't happen.

In fact, when the new regs get challenged, I'll bet the FDA backs down.
They are overreaching their authority to begin with and the last thing they want is to be tested in court, which would set precedent.
;)
But thats just MY opinion.
 

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Lol.
Ill take any odds you wanna give.

It won't happen.

In fact, when the new regs get challenged, I'll bet the FDA backs down.
They are overreaching their authority to begin with and the last thing they want is to be tested in court, which would set precedent.
;)
But thats just MY opinion.

They're already in Federal court in DC on this with Nicopure along with several other plaintiffs who all got combined by the court vs. the FDA. I beleive it was filed the week after the deeming regs came out. There has still been no ruling.
 
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    Does anyone know of a vaping injury accident caused by a wet battery? Deliberately plugging vent holes? What accidents did that cause?

    They don't seem to ever specify the difference between a battery cell and a e-cig battery unit (mod). The Deeming didn't either.

    I do think this FDA action is a slight improvement, although it also makes the deeming more justifyable. For them to be saying we're going to wipe the slate clean and make everyone start over in a year or so, and yet be doing absolutely nothing to help people now, looks ridiculous. But it also says they can see that the government doesn't have to take total control to be helpful, which is how it should be (I'm not considering the magnitude of actual helpfulness, which is small).
     

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    The person who wrote the material knows nothing about e-cigs, electronics or batteries. The writing is incompetent and insulting and that's certainly intentional.

    The FDA is a bunch of cop wannabes who got badges without having to go to cop school. How about let's get rid of them and start over.
    Give them vaporizors and a life time supply of doughnuts to choose from as their rewards for such important work accomplished.

    :sneaky:

    I'll donate!

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    f2a191b3a73f351422457195820f1702.jpg

    FDA/ATF proof
    :blink:

    Not a single tomato or eggplant.

    Where you gettin' nic from?

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    Actually... Yes they generally do. The problem is that the processes used to write regulations is so politicized, bureaucratized, and infiltrated by corporate special interests that the primary goals get hijacked.

    Evidence I've seen suggest otherwise.

    Such as these infiltrations consistently being that big wigs of the special interests the FDA should be reigning back being put in charge of the process AT THE FDA and completely reversing not only any progress, but the goal itself to be one that's detrimental to people and beneficial to the special interest group.

    History is nearly 100% of every large battle and dates back to the sixties.

    E-cigs are a drop in the bucket.

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    Vaping represents about .0001% of consumer battery use.
    The FDA cant regulate batteries.
    They do not have any authority to regulate batteries.
    Its illogical to even think could.
    B.S.

    FDA now has jurisdiction over TRUCKING.

    What makes batteries that power the subject of their most recent, biggest hard on untouchable?

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    Unless they now run the DOT I think it's more about the transporting of food.
    When it comes to jurisdiction of rules and regulations, the DOT is the least of our worries.

    Hell, the ATA, and PATT offer bigger threats.

    But yes and no. It's more about paperwork, fees for said paperwork and fines for not having it.

    Shippers who are going to load food onto a disgusting truck are going to do so regardless.

    They'll just charge the fee for the inspection certificate and issue it.

    Tomatoes won't stop rolling down I5 and CA99. I promise!

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    Does anyone need a 20amp cdr battery to run a radio or a flashlight?

    Be sure to lock the Back door..


    I see you haven't visited the candlepower forums.
    Check them out.

    They use/discuss custom built designer lights like we use/discuss authentic mods.
    They have been doing this longer than vaping as we know it has existed.

    Modified flashlights were the original mechanicals.
    Thats why we call them mods.
     

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    Give them vaporizors and a life time supply of doughnuts to choose from as their rewards for such important work accomplished.

    :sneaky:

    I'll donate!

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    I watched Gottlieb, the likely new FDA boss, testifying in congress. They all referred to FDA approvals as the "gold standard" because supposedly they are tough and expert. If their ecig advice represents their gold standard they are no such thing. A bunch of phonies. The ecig advice, taken as whole is indifferent and incompetent. A college sohpmore would get a D for that effort.
     
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    I watched Gottlieb, the likely new FDA boss, testifying in congress. They all referred to FDA approvals as the "gold standard" because supposedly they are tough and expert. If their ecig advice represents their gold standard they are no such thing. A bunch of phonies. The ecig advice, taken as whole is indifferent and incompetent. A college sohpmore would get a D for that effort.
    Oh, no.

    They indeed are the experts in whatever they intend to (de)regulate or give cart blanche to while destroying the actual safe(er), healthy (ier) options.

    In this case it's TOBACCO executives sitting on the board.

    After all, my battery IS a tobacco derivative when I take it out of my flashlight and insert it into my PV.

    Right? :blink:

    Tapatyped
     

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    I see you haven't visited the candlepower forums.
    Check them out.

    They use/discuss custom built designer lights like we use/discuss authentic mods.
    They have been doing this longer than vaping as we know it has existed.

    Modified flashlights were the original mechanicals.
    Thats why we call them mods.
    You see nothing, i go to CandlePower to check out charger reviews, for years.

    A lith ion battery Is part of an END product, & subject to FDA control.

    I'll stick with my 5 D cell '78 Kel-light..
     
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