Fed up of getting ripped off ? Wanted e juice in bulk !!

[SANJP]

DON'T KNOW IF ITS JUST ME OR ARE WE GETTING RIPPED OFF ON juice OR WHAT ?


I mean close to £20 PER 20ML with postage thats nearly as much as my


DSE901 STARTER KIT ITSELF !!

thats like buying a car for £10,000 and it costing you £7,000 to fill up the gas tank !​

I cant be the only one thinking about it !
and need your help and views people.


I NEED TO ORDER IT BY THE 100ml or LITRE


AND IM SURE MOST OF YOU REGULAR VAPERS LIKE ME WOULD TOO


HOW ABOUT £25 for 100ml and £100 a LITRE?


NOW THATS WHAT IT SHOULD BE


COME ON SUPPLIERS !


HOW ABOUT IT !​

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Brought over from the closed thread ....

(conversion for us US folk )

$29.69 USD for 20ml ... O my ...

SANJP, what are taxes/etc... like in the UK/EU world? Tobacco tax hasn't hit the USA ecig world yet, so we really just have our local state tax. Here in CA, its 8.25%. I also hear, taxes on getting imports is much much higher there than in the US too.

So, both those factors could come in to play with the pricing of the liquid. Just a thought

 

[robw]

I thought I read something that there is a shelf life on e juice? Is there a limit to the amount of time it can sit around?

 

[CaSHMeRe]

I thought I read something that there is a shelf life on e juice? Is there a limit to the amount of time it can sit around?

Rule of Thumb is 12 months

 

[MagusSteele]

Far as I know its shelf life is 1 year +, if stored right (out of direct sun light, cool dry place, so on)
I have seen large quantities available, but from manufactures/suppliers and you need a minimum order of a few hundred dollars.
If i get a $20 30ml it will last almost a month, not sure why you would need a liter of the stuff.

 

[SANJP]

Shelf Life is just a selling technique they have to store it too dont they ?

I cant believe they throw gallons of the stuff away at the end of the year !

and as for 20ml a month no way I only vape a few hours in a day and have gone through 3

20ml bottles in the last 2 weeks so yes I do need a 100ml and $30 Dollars or £20 is a

total rip off for 20ml of the stuff which is in most cases 65% PG

 

[dc2k08]

the US prices do seem to be cheaper. could be that as the .... fell out of the pound recently this is also a factor.

 

[SANJP]

there not much in it but the main point here is even £15 or $20 for a pathetic 20ml is a Rip Off.

ps: love that Phillip Morris smoking device video from 1997 on ecignews.com lol

 

[ApOsTle51]

yup , e-liquid is FAR to expensive for what it is.

I feel some sellers are feeding of our addiction and some are no better than back street crack dealers or big tobacco in that light. The Factory makes it for pennies so some-one along the line is marking up prices to a ridiculous level , it may not be the people we buy it from but probably their middle-man.

But if you want it , you gotta get it somewhere

 

[Papa Lazarou]

I was looking at the Central Trade site. $92 US, or about £60 for 1.2kg of e-liquid in a plain bottle (what's that going to be, a litre?) seems a good deal. Obviously, thats sat in China and will be substantially more once you've paid for shipping and tax. But at an average £20 for 30ml thats what, £666 per litre? Appreciate that having it in little individual dropper bottles and the R&D adds a lot to the cost. But still, it suggests there will be some room for manoeuvre on price. Group buy anyone

 

[ApOsTle51]

i reckon the generic e-liquid could come down in price by a third at least seeing what it sells for from central trade, and i bet it's all made in the same place much like our 901's.

 

[MrFog]

I support this movement whole heartedly. Yes we are getting rippped off. there is 5 litres of PG on ebay right now for £35. This stuff is not difficult to make. I would like to see the price halving at least, however I fear the worst once the taxman gets hit paws on it.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Guys ...

You have to remember, lots of things go in to determining a price of a commodity.

Just an Idea of what Suppliers think about:
1. Demand
2. How easy is it to get
3. Tax/VAT
4. Shipping and Brokerage Fee's
5. Marketing/Testing fee's, etc...
6. Paypal/Credit Card/Merchant Account Fee's
7. In pillbox's case ... Rebottling/Labeling/boxing/etc...

Its not just as simple as finding a cheap wholesale liquid.

This stuff is not difficult to make.

You're right ... its not entirely difficult to make. DIY juices can be great! BUT, manufacturers deal with liquid nicotine ... something I don't suggest you go and play around lightly with ...

 

[ApOsTle51]

however it works out cash , you surely cannot justify £666 per litre ( $985 ).

It's just ridiculous.

edit : so when are we gonna ballot for a strike !!! bagsy for making the banner

 

[bribri]

+1 SANJP. Its about time someone said this.

And thats not true. The manufacturers do not have to deal straight with the liquid nicotine. I have spoken to them and they get a much less dangerous tobacco extracted nicotine liq that they work with.

 

[freddo]

as ml levels goes up, price comes down, it's the same with everything. Has that been taken into account? maybe it has, i haven't read the full thread

 

[e-pipeman]

Group buy anyone

You arrange it and I'm in.

 

[freddo]

If my first group order goes sucessflly i'll be up for another

 

[CaSHMeRe]

however it works out cash , you surely cannot justify £666 per litre ( $985 ).

Justification is in the eye of the buyer really If you get zero demand at lets say $985 per litre, than obviously, the supplier will need to drop pricing, plain and simple. That's where demands falls in to place. As long as there are buyers willing to pay that high of a premium for juice, it will continue to be sold as such! Branding also has its place in things ... Think Nike and Payless shoes ... Same applies!

I do hope you guys get what you wish for though. I'd rather have happy vaporers on my hands than unhappy anyday! LOL

Let us know how your group buy goes Freddo!

 

[Rorschach]

Guys ...

You have to remember, lots of things go in to determining a price of a commodity.

Just an Idea of what Suppliers think about:
1. Demand
2. How easy is it to get
3. Tax/VAT
4. Shipping and Brokerage Fee's
5. Marketing/Testing fee's, etc...
6. Paypal/Credit Card/Merchant Account Fee's
7. In pillbox's case ... Rebottling/Labeling/boxing/etc...

Its not just as simple as finding a cheap wholesale liquid.




You're right ... its not entirely difficult to make. DIY juices can be great! BUT, manufacturers deal with liquid nicotine ... something I don't suggest you go and play around lightly with ...

I agree with Steve. It's really not that simple. I'm glad our suppliers put so much effort into getting the juices available for us in our own countries. Do you remember when the only place we could find the stuff was at ecig.com?

Availability of products in this category is going way faster than people would have thought possible with any other old technology. One of the reasons is because many suppliers are like us, we need our fix.

I think our suppliers (by and large) have done a splendid job of getting this off the ground so quickly. I remember when I joined the forum back in June the only viable options was NJoy for people in the states.

Prices may come down as availability (ease of transit from overseas) or native country manufacture gets off the ground, but as it is, I'm quite fine with paying what the suppliers currently ask.

I'd say I go through a 10mL bottle each week. So that's like $10 from most places.

I was a pack a day smoker and cigarettes in NYC were around $10 when i stopped. So that's a savings to me.