Filled A Wet Cartomizer (I think)

[CanineSubterranean]

Hello Everyone,

My carts are not producing any vapour at all. I boiled all 5 new pre-filled cartomizers to clean them in these steps:
- Removed plastic caps and rubber
- Boil for 5 minutes
- Strain and rinse cartomizers
- Boil for another 5 minutes
- Sat them sideways indoors on a paper towel for 21 hours

Model: KR8

I read somewhere that even the slightest moist in the cart can stop it from functioning fully, and I think this is my case.

I've re-filled two clean carts and decided to try them before refilling the other three. The two refilled carts produced no vapour at all. I'm going to let the three empty ones sit and dry for longer.

Question 1:
My problem now is that I've refilled two cartomizers with juice, and I'm not sure what to do with them. I want to keep the new juice inside, so if I don't have to boil them again, then I wouldn't. But I am wondering if I just let the new juice sit inside, would the water inside still evaporate over time? Or is the only way in order for them to function properly to clean them all out again (boil again) and dry them out fully before I refill it again?

Question 2:
I think I will just get lots of carts in the future to skip the hassle of cleaning them out, since they are quite affordable, but I am just testing flavours right now and I don't have that many carts. I like the ones I have with the single plastic soft rubber tip (as opposed to a hard plastic lid + a rubber washer/catcher inside) since they seem a lot more convenient. Do you guys have any source recommendations for great deals for bulk order for these carts? I got them for around $8 for 5 ($1.6 each) - any idea if this is a good price? Or I guess any KR8 cartomizer will do, since I can just replace the plastic lid & rubber washer thing with a single two-in-one rubber cap (correct me if I can't do this, I'm really not sure).

Thanks again everyone, I really appreciate your time and help..
K9

 

[Netter]

A1 - You will have to re-clean them & dry completely.(yes they have water still in them that's why they won't work)
A2 - buy instead of cleaning CANVAPE has the best price on KR808D-1 bottom coil cartomizers (they are the same as volt/bloog)

Netter

 

[albertbert]

I don't think their is much you can do with them, the juice is probably pretty watered down if it was still wet. You could try vaping on it, see if you can cook off enough water for them to work, but i think you'd be better off just cleaning and drying them again.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=taryn+spin Use that to dry them in the future, you will still have to let them sit, but it will get a lot of the water out

With that all said, i don't think cleaning works very well.

That is a pretty good price, i think the cheapest you can get them in Canada is about 7 bucks a pack, unless you order bulk from china. You might want to check out 901 atomizers if you want something to test flavors in, you can get one for dripping.

 

[CanuckGod]

Tried boiling my cartos the once, and was not impressed with the results. What I use now is something like this; if you have a Wal-Mart nearby, they should have them in the pharmacy section (cost me about $2):

Cleaning:
Basically, get some distilled water (4L jug for cheap from anywhere... $1.50 for me at Shoppers Drug Mart), put a bit of water (150-200 mL works for me cleaning about 4-5 at a time, water doesn't get too nasty) into a bowl of some sort, nuke it in the microwave for about 60 to 90 seconds, idea being to get it fairly warm... put your carto minus the juice plug at the top into the big rubber opening, should fit quite nicely, screw end facing outward like so:

Put the screw side into the water, draw up some water, then take out of the water, and spray the water back into the dish, making sure not to splash yourself... repeat until you see the water being drawn up into the syringe looking fairly clear in colour. At that point, all you need to do is to get the remaining water out... best method for that would be to force pump air with the carto still attached to the plunger-dealy, while making sure to hold the cartomizer in with one hand while pulling and pushing the syringe with the other (40-50 times usually works for me, until you're not really seeing any water mist spray out the other end). I'll usually let it sit 24-48 hours to dry out any residual water, and most of the time they're good to go again. I do have a fair number of extra cartos on me, but this way does extend my carto life quite a bit, and it usually only takes a few minutes.

Obviously I didn't invent the method, and there are variations on it, but I found this tutorial video was awesome to get the general idea of how this works:

KR808D-1 Carto Cleaning: Quick-n-Easy. - YouTube

Just like you he uses the KR808, I personally prefer 510-compatible cartomizers/etc., but the concept is the same.

Whatever you decide, wish you luck, and vape on!

 

[Pipeous]

cartos are disposable. use then toss them out. washing the filler with tap water brings more impurities into the equation and not drying them can also produce unwanted things. if you have to wash them, put them on a cooking sheet in the toaster over on a lower setting to dry them faster. the metal coils can rust if left wet among other things like mildew and such can build.

 

[lxrubin]

Distilled water doesn't have any impurities, but would still need to dry obviously.

 

[Oriana871]

I use something like this, you can put two cartos in at once. Also around $2 at Shoppers. It's just like a mini-baster.



Oh and I soak them in a bit of vodka as well. Sometimes it will kill the odd carto (the "washing" in general, not the vodka), sometimes the smell from a juice is so strong it won't really come out.

 

[DemonCleaner]

Seriously...just throw them out.

 

[drac]

If you are wanting to try diff juice why don't you use an atomizer and try dripping.
Drac

 

[Pipeous]

I keep a lr atty for dripping in my kit just for testing flavours out.
a box of 5 cartos locally is 10 bucks. 2 bucks each. I easily get 10 days so 20 cents a day, but 2 weeks is usual before flavour drops. so I wash it out and waste power to heat water and crap to save 80 cents, and that's if it still tastes good or did I just waste 25 cents worth of juice to try...

I know I bring this up often but it's because I just have to. washing cartos makes no sense. the coil gets gummed up not to mention the filling, and cleaning the filling still does nothing to clean the coil. the resitance usually gets worse as they get old. I find I even swap batteries sooner as the cartos get older... need more jam to get those crudded up wires to do what they have to do to make vapor.

now there are health risks from cleaning these things. yes. if they remain wet too long, the coil can rust. you can also get mildew or mold in the wetness. that means drying them fast. and the cost to run the toaster oven outweighs the minimal savings. we vape for health first, to save money second. when saving a little money means putting your health at risk, is it worth it?

 

[DemonCleaner]

6.95 from canvape, 5.00 from Greenhouse One | Electronic Cigarettes | Atomizers | Eliquid. just cut the purse strings people.

 

[CanineSubterranean]

Thanks albertbert. Would a LR 901 atomizer work with the KR8? Do I have to get a drip tip with it?

I don't think their is much you can do with them, the juice is probably pretty watered down if it was still wet. You could try vaping on it, see if you can cook off enough water for them to work, but i think you'd be better off just cleaning and drying them again.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=taryn+spin Use that to dry them in the future, you will still have to let them sit, but it will get a lot of the water out

With that all said, i don't think cleaning works very well.

That is a pretty good price, i think the cheapest you can get them in Canada is about 7 bucks a pack, unless you order bulk from china. You might want to check out 901 atomizers if you want something to test flavors in, you can get one for dripping.

 

[FunkyVapes]

To be honest, you shouldn't be using "LR" anything on a battery of that size. I have, people do. But it just isn't mean to push that kind of power. You won't be getting a great life out of your battery, it will die (permanently) quicker too.

 

[CanuckGod]

I keep a lr atty for dripping in my kit just for testing flavours out.
a box of 5 cartos locally is 10 bucks. 2 bucks each. I easily get 10 days so 20 cents a day, but 2 weeks is usual before flavour drops. so I wash it out and waste power to heat water and crap to save 80 cents, and that's if it still tastes good or did I just waste 25 cents worth of juice to try...

I know I bring this up often but it's because I just have to. washing cartos makes no sense. the coil gets gummed up not to mention the filling, and cleaning the filling still does nothing to clean the coil. the resitance usually gets worse as they get old. I find I even swap batteries sooner as the cartos get older... need more jam to get those crudded up wires to do what they have to do to make vapor.

now there are health risks from cleaning these things. yes. if they remain wet too long, the coil can rust. you can also get mildew or mold in the wetness. that means drying them fast. and the cost to run the toaster oven outweighs the minimal savings. we vape for health first, to save money second. when saving a little money means putting your health at risk, is it worth it?

I dunno, I suppose we're of different opinions on it. As it is, there is nothing like a new carto, but since I went with the syringe clean method, I've gotten some decent results. I maybe go 50/50 on new cartos vs. cleaned cartos in my collection; also, unless I order a tiny order from Canvape and get it shipped via regular mail, I'm paying close to $10 a shipment just in shipping costs from most places, so that $10 quickly becomes $20 for me unless I do a bulk order.

For me too, it's kind of like modding, finding out new and interesting ways of doing things... sort of a 'proof of concept'. It's not about being cheap - if that were the case, I'd have a lot less stuff than I do (damn you ECF ). If you don't want to clean your cartos, that's cool with me, and if you do, it doesn't hurt to share ideas; all the while, we're all on the same page... viva la Vape, down with cancer sticks!

 

[WolfeReign]

Hello Everyone,

My carts are not producing any vapour at all. I boiled all 5 new pre-filled cartomizers to clean them in these steps:
- Removed plastic caps and rubber
- Boil for 5 minutes
- Strain and rinse cartomizers
- Boil for another 5 minutes
- Sat them sideways indoors on a paper towel for 21 hours

First off....anyone with the signature or name of K9 i have to try and help out
Second your steps are correct but you just missed one which is below in italics

- Removed plastic caps and rubber
- Boil for 5 minutes
- Strain and rinse cartomizers
- Boil for another 5 minutes
-literally blow them out from the cap side
-then turn upside down (battery side up) and let sit over night, or in front of a open window

When you just turn them on the side then you are letting the water pool there, and i am thinking it would take a week to dry out that way. Now if you want there is a bit of a more riskier way, and i think if you test it on one cart see how it works. If you try this method, be warned i am not responsible for anything that will happen to battery/carts etc

- Removed plastic caps and rubber
- Boil for 5 minutes
- Strain and rinse cartomizers
- Boil for another 5 minutes
- Place on cookie sheet battery side up, then place in oven back until all cotton looks dry (or 15 min)
- Let sit for about 4 hours then away you go

Question 2:
I think I will just get lots of carts in the future to skip the hassle of cleaning them out, since they are quite affordable, but I am just testing flavours right now and I don't have that many carts. I like the ones I have with the single plastic soft rubber tip (as opposed to a hard plastic lid + a rubber washer/catcher inside) since they seem a lot more convenient. Do you guys have any source recommendations for great deals for bulk order for these carts? I got them for around $8 for 5 ($1.6 each) - any idea if this is a good price? Or I guess any KR8 cartomizer will do, since I can just replace the plastic lid & rubber washer thing with a single two-in-one rubber cap (correct me if I can't do this, I'm really not sure).

How about a 808 atty? yes you read that right, a 808 attomizer which can be seen here 808 atty and yes your going to need carts for that 808 atty

Later, if you want i will show you a 901/510 to 808 adapter.....yeap you can use 510 devices on a 808 battery

Anyway hope this helps somewhat for you

 

[albertbert]

Thanks albertbert. Would a LR 901 atomizer work with the KR8? Do I have to get a drip tip with it?

Yup, but like FV said, LR might be too hard on your batteries. Yeah, you would need a drip tip. If you end up not dripping much, they make nice carto mouth pieces. Maybe get a bottle of pg too, if you want to flush out the juice a little bit when you change flavors.

 

[Snus]

Hi!
I've been reading all the posts and certainly can relate. When I first got my kit, a bit over a month ago, I was vaping using the atty and the soft plastic covers that came with them. They worked well, except for the darker, sweet flavors that I enjoy. I got a clearomizer and loved that, until it cracked on me... So, I figured I would try some stainless steel cartos, so I wouldn't have to worry about cracking and I heard good things about them. Filled using the condom method and things went well, for a little while. How, I am getting totally frustrated!!!!! There are only a few juices that will work properly with the Boge SR's that I use on my Ego and 5v pass through.

Soooo, I was reading how it's a good idea to fill them before bed and leave the new ones sitting over night. Makes a lot of sense... But, I also tried filling up a new one with Good Prophets Caramel. I let it sit for a few hours and it seemed all soaked in. When I tried it, I didn't get ANY vapor at all, just a funky airy sound... So, I dripped some on the top and let it sit over night and the same thing today...

I have another carto that is probably hopeless. It's not that I'm cheap, I do like to be thrifty but took this as a challenge to see if I could fix this one carto. I've been boiling, blowing, basting and hair drying, lol! Still I can't get air through the center tube... Does it need to dry out a bit more before I can easily blow through the center hole or is my project totally hopeless?

I think I have another hopeless one, too... I think I burned the filler material as I tried it before it was fully soaked through. I got a really bad burned taste, yuck! I don't want to replace the filler material and I don't think boiling will get rid of this problem, will it? What happens now, is when it just starts to taste burned, I refill it. But I only get a little bit of use out of it before it starts to taste burnt again. Can anyone tell me if this one is a candidate for my boiling project????

I also have some Dekang chocolate juice and I think the only way I am going to be able to vape that one at ALL is maybe to drip it... I'm even afraid to do that as I don't want to ruin my atty's! Help!

Thanks!

 

[Pipeous]

once it's burnt, it's burnt... and I gave away my dekang chocolate. tasted more like chemical than chocolate to me.

 

[Snus]

once it's burnt, it's burnt... and I gave away my dekang chocolate. tasted more like chemical than chocolate to me.

Thanks, I figured that was most likely the case.... I went and ordered some more dekang chocolate during a sale, but I find it is better mixed than plain. I was mixing it with some vanilla, malt, cream and a touch of cinnamon bun. Tasted great, but seemed to gunk up everything! Seems like I am going to throw away those 2 cartos, not too bad for a noob to only ruin two of them, lol! Now that I have a better idea of what flavors I like to vape, I am going to have to try some more natural flavors and see how that goes.... Hopefully, natural means less junk and less gunk!

 

[Pipeous]

a general rule of thumb, clearer juices gunk stuff up less often.

it's all good. I've burnt cartos before. sometimes they just burn without getting too dry even. sometimes you get one with a plugged air tube (like above). mass produced, inexpensive, disposable items. you are going to get flaws. thankfully quality control even over the last year or two has really come a long ways. not as many duds anymore.