My tracking shows them out for delivery- Woo Hoo, looks like I'll finally be getting to test these out tonight. While following this thread I have learned to check the wick first thing
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Well I'm kindof sortof liking the Vortexes. At first, I wasn't really getting any flavor. I decided to remove the ALF so took it apart, removed the ALF and put it back together. Seemed to have a decently tight connection between the tube and bottom connector. Leaked right away but was leaking out of the bottom from the center tube. The flavor was alot better though but the leaking offsets that.
Will these be made without the ALF?
Will these be made without the ALF?
Right there with you. I let one set all day. Grabbed it when I got home.
1st hit was good.
2nd hit not too good.
3rd hit burn after it set for 15 minutes.
What am I doing wrong here.
Please don't take offense, I'm not saying people don't taste this, and maybe I've long since lost any sense of taste from too much smoking over the years: But...I have to ask...
How does stuff that doesn't burn at these low temperatures (silica, PV, metal, PG, and VG) taste burnt?
I've always wondered this as I read it a bunch when people are talking about CE2s and wick based Tanks....
I do agree that TH is somewhat different from a wick based system, and well understand the concept of the HV vapors who describe a 'dry' hit...in that it's not wicking quite as fast as they'd like for full flavor/vapor...but this run isn't designed for HV vaping.
The silica used in PV wicks can stand very very high temps...I can't even burn the stuff with my butane torch...same goes for this PV plastic stuff it's made from. It's not real easy to burn/melt even with my torch.
Then I try the poly-filled cartos which are supposedly the best...these don't 'burn' either....but after a while they do get funky tasting (kinda like drawing air through an old sock)...way faster than any of the wicked systems I've ever tried.
Oh well, to each his own
Good thing we have choices.
How does stuff that doesn't burn at these low temperatures (silica, PV, metal, PG, and VG) taste burnt?
I've always wondered this as I read it a bunch when people are talking about CE2s and wick based Tanks....
I do agree that TH is somewhat different from a wick based system, and well understand the concept of the HV vapors who describe a 'dry' hit...in that it's not wicking quite as fast as they'd like for full flavor/vapor...but this run isn't designed for HV vaping.
The silica used in PV wicks can stand very very high temps...I can't even burn the stuff with my butane torch...same goes for this PV plastic stuff it's made from. It's not real easy to burn/melt even with my torch.
Then I try the poly-filled cartos which are supposedly the best...these don't 'burn' either....but after a while they do get funky tasting (kinda like drawing air through an old sock)...way faster than any of the wicked systems I've ever tried.
Oh well, to each his own
Good thing we have choices.
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I maybe wrong but it's the crud left on the wire from the juice that drys out and burns.
Hard to explain.
Hard to explain.
Aye, I get that sometimes for sure. For me it just makes it so the coils don't get hot enough and there's no vapor/flavor anymore.
Sometimes I can wash or burn it off with both CE2 and Vortex (I just shoot distilled water through the center of it using a syringe without taking it all apart)...going to try an ultra-sonic cleaner soon in hopes that it'll negate ever having to take stuff apart again. Use it till it dies for 8 or 10 refills...chunk, and start anew
I can not find a ultra-sonic cleaner here locally. I like you get tired of taking stuff apart to clean them. I'm good at breaking things...........................LOL
I really hate ordering stuff from the internet.
But I order things from the suppliers here. I guess that is different.
I really hate ordering stuff from the internet.
But I order things from the suppliers here. I guess that is different.
Disappointed again
First one- had zero flavor, and tasted like a dry carto. I let it sit for 20 minutes, and got one hit with some flavor and then dry taste again (plenty of vape, just no flavor). So I started tearing it apart and soon discovered that the wick was not lined up with the notch at all (gotta love that Chinese QC). Put it back together. Taste was there, just not as much flavor as I'm used to- I have been using dual coil carto for weeks, so that is my reference point for taste.
I pulled a 2nd one out, and this time looked at it thru bright light and could see the wick was lined up properly in this one. Loaded it up, let it sit a while to soak. Took a drag- flavor is there, just no where near as much flavor as a dual coil carto.
I now have both sitting on the counter. I'll leave them there for a few hours soaking to see if they get better. But for now I'm not as excited as I was an hour ago when I got them in my mailbox
First one- had zero flavor, and tasted like a dry carto. I let it sit for 20 minutes, and got one hit with some flavor and then dry taste again (plenty of vape, just no flavor). So I started tearing it apart and soon discovered that the wick was not lined up with the notch at all (gotta love that Chinese QC). Put it back together. Taste was there, just not as much flavor as I'm used to- I have been using dual coil carto for weeks, so that is my reference point for taste.
I pulled a 2nd one out, and this time looked at it thru bright light and could see the wick was lined up properly in this one. Loaded it up, let it sit a while to soak. Took a drag- flavor is there, just no where near as much flavor as a dual coil carto.
I now have both sitting on the counter. I'll leave them there for a few hours soaking to see if they get better. But for now I'm not as excited as I was an hour ago when I got them in my mailbox
I hear ya, I usually try my best to buy locally first...sales tax vs shipping...cost 'me' about the same and helps the state coffers (Go Teachers, Fire Fighters, Law Officers, etc!)
I ordered one from Amazon....I need it for other things anyway...cleaning e-cig bits will be a nice side benefit
I'd like to try some of those dual coils at some point. Are yours mega sized or regular? What battery do you use? I.E. Will it cook my stock eGo? Does it sound like tesla coils in a steam-punk sci-fi movie (the one I saw in a youtube video did...I could hear it sizzling like crazy).
even if the wicks are aligned, it could still mean the wicks are pinched, making it so it does not wick so well. only solution i know is to break the seal of the inner cup surrounding the coil/wick and lift it up a tad so it relieves stress on the wicks. then fluff up the wicks. make it so the wicks are still covering the slits, or else its going to leak.
Alrighty then...had some time this evening and went to work on these. I sure as heck can't recommend anybody try the same because I still haven't figured out how the liquid hits the whatsit.
I pulled out the hollow center tube and removed the filler material and then pressed the tube back in place but not all the way down. The plastic base is slotted and I made sure to line it up. This one reads at 2.8ohms and I tried it first 5.4 on my Darwin, or 4v. I'm now enjoying it at the equivalent of 4.4v (no dry or nasty hits) but feel like I'm on the edge of burning so not pushing it further.
My favorite part is the draw, which isn't tight but there's just a little bit of...resistance...to it that makes it satisfying. And, can I say it again? I love being able to put any of my 510 drip tips without cracking the base and risking leakage. Even after wrestling that plastic tube out of the center I don't have any unless I tip it upside down. When I keep the included mouthpiece on it I can actually tip it but I prefer a Pawn or one of Nhaler's twisted.
I'm going to rinse all out and do the same. The updates are going to address all the issues GotVapes found (which are probably more and more specific than what I have) so I'll be stocking up. Hope they eventually come in an XL version. If the revised ones are good out of the package they could end my distrust of clear vape vessels.
I did rinse out some other juice before I put the Vortex back together and I bet the washing fluffed the wick...which I haven't even really seen (never had to put on my glasses so it wasn't major surgery - just needle nose pliers and a little tug to get the thingy out).
I pulled out the hollow center tube and removed the filler material and then pressed the tube back in place but not all the way down. The plastic base is slotted and I made sure to line it up. This one reads at 2.8ohms and I tried it first 5.4 on my Darwin, or 4v. I'm now enjoying it at the equivalent of 4.4v (no dry or nasty hits) but feel like I'm on the edge of burning so not pushing it further.
My favorite part is the draw, which isn't tight but there's just a little bit of...resistance...to it that makes it satisfying. And, can I say it again? I love being able to put any of my 510 drip tips without cracking the base and risking leakage. Even after wrestling that plastic tube out of the center I don't have any unless I tip it upside down. When I keep the included mouthpiece on it I can actually tip it but I prefer a Pawn or one of Nhaler's twisted.
I'm going to rinse all out and do the same. The updates are going to address all the issues GotVapes found (which are probably more and more specific than what I have) so I'll be stocking up. Hope they eventually come in an XL version. If the revised ones are good out of the package they could end my distrust of clear vape vessels.
I did rinse out some other juice before I put the Vortex back together and I bet the washing fluffed the wick...which I haven't even really seen (never had to put on my glasses so it wasn't major surgery - just needle nose pliers and a little tug to get the thingy out).
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I am going to be honest with this quick review. I did have an issue with one and it seems like it is the same issue others have had. On mine it seemed like the coil/wick was off center and was pinching it off. I was able to remove the tube and get it settled to an extend but there is not much give on the coil/wick to get it lined up I was to afraid I would break it.
That said the next one was perfect. I have to say it was fill and vape and only let it sit for maybe 30 second and after 2 fills it just gets better. I knew from the start that this being a first production run there were bound to be a issue or two and at the risk of sounding like a fan boy I have total faith they will get ironed out.
After all the fiddling I have had to do with CE2's since I started vaping(I started with CE2's off the bat) to be able to pop a vortex and just fill and vape it is awesome. Lemme tell ya it tastes good to and hits hard I am sticking with these and look very forward to these improving.
Semi-pro tip: If you are a handy person and use a ego cone and it does not fit I simply took a drill bit and honed the tip of the cone out a bit and it works perfectly and still works on my old CE2 stock just fine. There might be a few issues here and there but for me these are pure win and will be buying more.
That said the next one was perfect. I have to say it was fill and vape and only let it sit for maybe 30 second and after 2 fills it just gets better. I knew from the start that this being a first production run there were bound to be a issue or two and at the risk of sounding like a fan boy I have total faith they will get ironed out.
After all the fiddling I have had to do with CE2's since I started vaping(I started with CE2's off the bat) to be able to pop a vortex and just fill and vape it is awesome. Lemme tell ya it tastes good to and hits hard
I am sticking with these and look very forward to these improving.Semi-pro tip: If you are a handy person and use a ego cone and it does not fit I simply took a drill bit and honed the tip of the cone out a bit and it works perfectly and still works on my old CE2 stock just fine. There might be a few issues here and there but for me these are pure win and will be buying more.
I broke my first Vortex already I had one that seemed a little off flavor-wise, so I figured I'd try pulling out the ALF and check the wick... That went well but it had a leak. So I concocted some corn starch based homemade glue to try and seal it, when I noticed the wick was a little off center. I got a little too agressive in trying to straighten it and broke the coil. At least now I have something to test my glue formulas on
I really should stop tinkering.
I had one that seemed a little off flavor-wise, so I figured I'd try pulling out the ALF and check the wick... That went well but it had a leak. So I concocted some corn starch based homemade glue to try and seal it, when I noticed the wick was a little off center. I got a little too agressive in trying to straighten it and broke the coil. At least now I have something to test my glue formulas on I really should stop tinkering.
Can you tell me how you took the alf off with out breaking the seal on the tube?
Sorry, I wasn't very descriptive in my explanation. I didn't keep the tube seal in tact. I took the whole thing apart (mostly I wanted to see how it worked, I was that kind of kid). Which is why it ended up leaking on me and my attempt to fix it
Seems to be hit and miss.
I have not given up yet.
I like the ideal. Now to make it work.......LOL
I have not given up yet.
I like the ideal. Now to make it work.......LOL
seems to me its more of you had a issue with that specific pack, The majority of people are having great results, im not sure why your whole pack would have leaks.
Just got these today. All and all, these are pretty solid. There are some good points and some not so good points.
Here are the good points:
Easiest carto to fill. Period. Filling these is a breeze. It takes about 5 seconds and you are ready to vape... well almost. More on that later.
The draw is perfect, for me anyway. It's got just the right amount of resistance, not to tight, like that of an ego-t, and not too airy, like you would find on a standard boge carto. It's somewhere in the middle, the sweet spot for me.
No leaking. I thought that would be a major problem with these, but so far, it's not an issue.
Decent amount of vapor. Its typical For 2.7 ohms. It's not clouds of vapor, not really enough for my tastes, but it may not be such a big deal for some of you. That's not to say that the vapor production is bad. It's fine. For 2.7 ohms.
Now for the down side.
Flavor. Wait, that's not quite right. FLAAAAAAAAAAVOOOR! The flavor is not right in these. I don't know if it's just me. I don't know if it's a wicking issue, though I don't think it is, I've tasted dry atties and dry cartos and that's not what this tastes like. It has a weird, almost plastic kind of taste. Tell you what. Go get a clean, unused drinking straw. You know, the kind that comes with the drink you get with your burger and fries. Stick that in your mouth and just suck air. You taste that? That taste, plus the juice is what this tastes like. I tried every one in the pack and they all have that taste. Perhaps I will try cleaning them out and seeing if that changes anything. But just from the first impression, the flavor is not great.
Thick juices don't work in these. No big surprise there, thicker juices don't work in any cartos. I was hoping that I could use my Vaperite VR4 in these, but that was just wishful thinking. So all of you Boba's fans, keep on dripping.
I wish these came in a lower resistance. From what I hear though, they're coming. I think that lower resistance would resolve a lot of complaints.
The caps/mouth piece that come on these is just silly. Why is it so big? And it comes off so easy. I wouldn't put these in your pocket or you could end up with a mess. A sticky, uncomfortable mess. In your pocket. I think that's all that needs to be said about that...
These are too long for me. This is kind of a personal complaint, but I have a Bloog mini PCC, and a fully assembled ecig won't fit in the PCC with one of these on it. Again, it's a personal complaint and I understand that this isn't something that effects many people, but for me it's kinda a big deal. And the fact that these hold a full ml of juice is great. I would sacrifice the space for the juice for the ability to put them in my case. But that's just me and I'm sure I'm alone on that.
After you fill these, you have to let them sit a while. That seems to help them wick. In my limited experience, you can't just fill and vape. But 10 minutes seems to be plenty of time.
I think these are good. They need improvement, but that will come. But at $12.95 a pack, it's not really worth the price, in my opinion. Not yet anyway. For now, I think I'll just stick with the clearomizers.
Here are the good points:
Easiest carto to fill. Period. Filling these is a breeze. It takes about 5 seconds and you are ready to vape... well almost. More on that later.
The draw is perfect, for me anyway. It's got just the right amount of resistance, not to tight, like that of an ego-t, and not too airy, like you would find on a standard boge carto. It's somewhere in the middle, the sweet spot for me.
No leaking. I thought that would be a major problem with these, but so far, it's not an issue.
Decent amount of vapor. Its typical For 2.7 ohms. It's not clouds of vapor, not really enough for my tastes, but it may not be such a big deal for some of you. That's not to say that the vapor production is bad. It's fine. For 2.7 ohms.
Now for the down side.
Flavor. Wait, that's not quite right. FLAAAAAAAAAAVOOOR! The flavor is not right in these. I don't know if it's just me. I don't know if it's a wicking issue, though I don't think it is, I've tasted dry atties and dry cartos and that's not what this tastes like. It has a weird, almost plastic kind of taste. Tell you what. Go get a clean, unused drinking straw. You know, the kind that comes with the drink you get with your burger and fries. Stick that in your mouth and just suck air. You taste that? That taste, plus the juice is what this tastes like. I tried every one in the pack and they all have that taste. Perhaps I will try cleaning them out and seeing if that changes anything. But just from the first impression, the flavor is not great.
Thick juices don't work in these. No big surprise there, thicker juices don't work in any cartos. I was hoping that I could use my Vaperite VR4 in these, but that was just wishful thinking. So all of you Boba's fans, keep on dripping.
I wish these came in a lower resistance. From what I hear though, they're coming. I think that lower resistance would resolve a lot of complaints.
The caps/mouth piece that come on these is just silly. Why is it so big? And it comes off so easy. I wouldn't put these in your pocket or you could end up with a mess. A sticky, uncomfortable mess. In your pocket. I think that's all that needs to be said about that...
These are too long for me. This is kind of a personal complaint, but I have a Bloog mini PCC, and a fully assembled ecig won't fit in the PCC with one of these on it. Again, it's a personal complaint and I understand that this isn't something that effects many people, but for me it's kinda a big deal. And the fact that these hold a full ml of juice is great. I would sacrifice the space for the juice for the ability to put them in my case. But that's just me and I'm sure I'm alone on that.
After you fill these, you have to let them sit a while. That seems to help them wick. In my limited experience, you can't just fill and vape. But 10 minutes seems to be plenty of time.
I think these are good. They need improvement, but that will come. But at $12.95 a pack, it's not really worth the price, in my opinion. Not yet anyway. For now, I think I'll just stick with the clearomizers.
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