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First Carto tank Issues :(

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  1. heroinesick

    heroinesick Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 28, 2013
    Louisville, KY
    Okay, what's the deal, y0?

    I have heard NOTHING but excellent things when it comes to flavor in a carto tank. I already know how to troubleshoot the flooding that I inevitably did, as well as pretty much everything else.

    However, I can't taste SQUAT with my carto tank. Same flavor in a Protank 2 and I have no issues at all? I don't understand.

    What am I doin wrong here? It's not burny tasting, or flooded or even gurgling. Just..bland. :(

    ...and that makes me a sad panda.
     
  2. artt

    artt Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 14, 2011
    michigan
    I've always thought that cartos muted the flavor, but they are pretty convenient to use. I still use them to some extent, with a Bulli Smoker A2 now my main juice feeder.
     
  3. cocacola31173

    cocacola31173 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 7, 2012
    United States
    What kind of carto are you using? I use these......Boge F16 510 DCT Single Coil Cartomizer

    I like them cause even though they are xl size they only have the same amount of filler of a standard which is all you need anyway. Takes only 20 drops to prime it too. Last me through a 30 ml of juice before I toss it.
     
  4. gotch23

    gotch23 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 27, 2011
    Copenhagen, Denmark
    Well... i did the carto-thing for a while.

    You could go through testing different cartomizers. Boges, Smoktek dual-coils (my fav), Ikenvape etc...
    You might find something that hits the spot for you, you may not.

    I really liked my smok dual-coils for the decent vape, the crackle & the convenience, but trying bottom-coil RBAs a la Kayfun/Taifun retired my carto-tanks for good. It is much more tasty to me. But the best vape for my taste i get from dripping in 510s/RDAs/squonking.
     
  5. heroinesick

    heroinesick Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 28, 2013
    Louisville, KY
    It appears to be an F16 style carto.. didn't say what sort of carto that it is ( bought it as a whole item.. carto + tank.) so I'm not really sure.

    See, I've always found bottom coils to be somewhat flavorless for me.. I mean, tolerable being that I've used them for months and months, but I really preferred the Vivi Novas. That just had a wonderful taste for me.. maybe I'm crazy? I haven't tried an RBA or RDA yet, so I'm not real sure about those.
     
  6. Topwater Elvis

    Topwater Elvis Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2012
    Texas
    In my experience, for some reason every carto that came with a tank at time of purchase has been horrible.
    I'd try a new one (carto) before giving up on carto tanks.
    Carto tanks are my go to adv delivery device.
     
  7. Thunderball

    Thunderball Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 5, 2013
    Grayson, Georgia
    Agree 100%
     
  8. gotch23

    gotch23 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 27, 2011
    Copenhagen, Denmark
    Not crazy at all...

    The Vivi still has many fans. If you're into top-coils that just might be the ticket. Rebuildable as well.

    But i'd really try some different cartos for your tank... there's a lot of difference how they vape...
    However I think it is fair to say that they are closer to bbc/bottom-coil type of vapor than to top-coils.

    If you decide to go down the route of rebuildables i would suggest an RDA first for the easiest
    building and then something that resembles your favorite standard setup. Since you like Vivis
    something like this kruserOne² Edelstahl Pur | kruserOne² | Das kruserSystem | kruserShop.de
    just might be the ticket. Works like a vivi basically. Didn't go for it personally, cause i got hooked on
    those kayfun-style atties. Bottom-coil... but i still think the flavor really pops on these.
     
  9. r77r7r

    r77r7r ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Feb 15, 2011
    Pa,LandOfTaxes
    First Carto tank Issues :(

    A dry hit will lack flavor, so how about dripping into it to make sure it's good and wet- blow it out good and try it then.
     
  10. Nosmik

    Nosmik Full Member Verified Member

    Apr 24, 2013
    Fort Worth, TX, USA
    If it's an F16, try it with some Smok cartos. Don't remember the youtube user but he mentioned that the Boges have tightly packed filler and the Smok ones are a bit loose.
     
  11. yzer

    yzer Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Nov 23, 2011
    Northern California
    If you are using a juice with a high percentage of VG try a Smoktech single coil carto. The filler material is different from the Boges and I find the Smoktechs to be excellent carto tank performers with 95% VG. They do need to be properly punched, though.

    Which brings up the subject of holes in carto for carto tank tank use. Whether drilled, laser zapped, slotted or punched the holes are crucial to vapor quality from a carto tank set-up. I want enough surface area from those holes to allow maximum saturation of the carto just short of flooding. That's where the best vapor production will be found. Finding that sweet spot requires experimentation. I found that a good carto punching tool like the Siam Mods V2 from Phiniac allowed me to fine tune carto saturation for the best vapor production.

    For my 95% VG DIY juice, I'm using four good sized punched holes in a Smoktech single coil at 1.8 to 2.0 ohms and 6.5 watts. I punch them all low on the carto.

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  12. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    There are differences between cartomizer brands. Each can have an effect on flavor and vapor production. Some also believe there is a difference in dual vs single coils. Don't give up on cartotanks based only on one cartomizer used, or with only one brand of cartomizer.

    To make things easier, there basically are only four brands of cartomizers: Boge, Ikenvape, Smoktech, and generics.

    The resistance (ohm) that you use can have a huge effect on flavor and vapor, too.

    Some juice flavors will taste remarkably different in different juice attachments. Top or bottom coil clearomizers or cartotanks. Preferences will differ from one individual to another.
     
  13. Jayvaps

    Jayvaps Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 22, 2013
    South Florida
    a small thing, but can be a large problem.

    Are you getting bubbles coming out of the carto into the tank when you vape? If not, you dont have a good sealing tank. And that can affect flavor. As the carto is not getting the proper wicking so it is drying out and not giving that 'juicy' vape.
     
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