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ShinyMonster

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I just won a drawing for a Bagua 18650, Kraken, 2 green 18650 3.7v 2100mah batteries, a nightcore charger and 30ml juice at my local B&M.

So, this is my first mech mod and I clearly have a lot of research ahead of me.
The owner of my local B&M built my first coil for me at .5ohms and honestly it is just too hot for my liking.
I am currently vaping a 2.0ohm carto in an IBTank on my Provari which I very much enjoy.

I am am aware that I will be needing to purchase a multimeter to build my own coils among other supplies like wick material and kenthal wire and will be watching several videos on building coils for the kraken. But I would appreciate any tips or advice ya'll might have for me.

 

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Lucky you that's a beautiful setup you've won. I'd suggest 30 gauge Kanthal a1 wire around a 3mm screwdriver, 7/8 wraps. Should get you about 1.5 ohms. Much cooler vape compared to that 0.5 build you now have.

You'll want to learn about:
1) battery safety, ohm's law, how it all applies to mechanical mods. I had a link to an excellent thread on this but it's gone along with a bunch of other goodies due to a hard drive crash.
2) Building coils. Quite a few threads here including ones with pictures. There are plenty of YouTube videos around also. Pick and choose among the offerings until you find someone who does builds that both work and that you can replicate.

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Nice win!

It drives me a little crazy though that a shop will give away a rig like you have without a lick of caution, education or instruction on safe practices regarding the use of advanced vaping gear like that.

Nice win though!

Please read through the links provided by baditude!

There is a lot to comprehend but you have an excellent start!
 

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Thank you and yes, Atascavapes, Larry himself made the first coil for me.

Larry and his wife are good people. I've bought a lot of stuff from him. A Nemesis, Stingray and 2 Kayfuns all Hcigar clones in the past few weeks. Picked up a Smok Magneto and two of the Innovape Silencer drip tips in my avatar a few days ago. Not to mention a lot of batteries.

I like their store. Hopefully the juice you got was King Slayer ;)
 

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Nice win!

It drives me a little crazy though that a shop will give away a rig like you have without a lick of caution, education or instruction on safe practices regarding the use of advanced vaping gear like that.

Nice win though!

Please read through the links provided by baditude!

There is a lot to comprehend but you have an excellent start!

I understand, but I know this store and owner. He is usually good about things like that, and knows his stuff. I wasn't there today, but I imagine they were very busy today. He may have also got the impression that ShinyMonster understood this already.
 

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Thanks for the links and all you contribute!
I had read a couple of these before but it sure doesn't hurt to re-read. =]
The video was awesome too, I did not know about the adjustable air flow valves before watching!
I was actually looking into at kayfun before wining the kraken today and still plan to get one but may as well use the free one for now. (Not currently in use, it is simply uncomfortable to use.)
 

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I understand, but I know this store and owner. He is usually good about things like that, and knows his stuff. I wasn't there today, but I imagine they were very busy today. He may have also got the impression that ShinyMonster understood this already.

Yes, I had spoken to them before about venturing into this area and tonight was entirely too busy to really expect a full lesson. I go to this shop at least a couple of times a week just to look, talk and take advantage of their bogo juice Wednesday. They really do have a nice shop.
 

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Lucky you that's a beautiful setup you've won. I'd suggest 30 gauge Kanthal a1 wire around a 3mm screwdriver, 7/8 wraps. Should get you about 1.5 ohms. Much cooler vape compared to that 0.5 build you now have.

You'll want to learn about:
1) battery safety, ohm's law, how it all applies to mechanical mods. I had a link to an excellent thread on this but it's gone along with a bunch of other goodies due to a hard drive crash.
2) Building coils. Quite a few threads here including ones with pictures. There are plenty of YouTube videos around also. Pick and choose among the offerings until you find someone who does builds that both work and that you can replicate.

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Thank you for your input, I will certainly be shooting for a higher ohm coil and I will be sure to have fully educated myself by the time I finally do begin building my own. I have read Baditudes battery safety blogs and a couple other googled resources.
So until I have all that I need, it will just sit in my vape case as a pretty ornament.
 

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I just won a drawing for a Bagua 18650, Kraken, 2 green 18650 3.7v 2100mah batteries, a nightcore charger and 30ml juice at my local B&M.

So, this is my first mech mod and I clearly have a lot of research ahead of me.
The owner of my local B&M built my first coil for me at .5ohms and honestly it is just too hot for my liking.
I am currently vaping a 2.0ohm carto in an IBTank on my Provari which I very much enjoy.

I am am aware that I will be needing to purchase a multimeter to build my own coils among other supplies like wick material and kenthal wire and will be watching several videos on building coils for the kraken. But I would appreciate any tips or advice ya'll might have for me.


Hope you get a kick or at least a fuse for your mech.
 

ShinyMonster

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We may have run in to each other there before.

Also, I have generations of family in Crosby, including my sister and her family. Lived there in the 80s as a kid myself. Born in Baytown.

Quite possible! I actually live on the Crosby side of Huffman. Crosby zip with Huffman schools and land phones.
Too bad you couldn't go tonight there were many names drawn before me, but thanks to all that didn't show because I got to claim the prize. =D
 

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wow, congrats on the nice new gear... er, i mean, uh, that's not a very good set-up at all. yeah, uh, it's pretty bad, so you should probably send it to me so i can dispose of it properly. yeah, that's what i'll do with it... :D

in all honesty, genesis-style atty's have (in my opinion) the best flavor when built correctly, BUT they're the most difficult type of atomizer to rebuild. i've never tried building a kraken so i can't speak specifically toward it, but (after reading up of course - baditude, by the way, always provides excellent info in that regard) i would be prepared to be frustrated with it for a long time, especially if you plan on using ss mesh wicks. i can tell you it took me about 10 continuous hours of going back and forth between the forums, youtube videos, and sitting at the table wrapping coils before i got my first genny to fire properly, and even then it wasn't a very satisfying vape. it took me a couple more builds before i finally got something decent. (my first rebuildable was also a genny, so i didn't have the benefit of previous experience wrapping coils either).

anyways, my advice is don't give up! it's normal for a genesis to be difficult to build. when you finally do get it right, though, there's no other vape that's quite as satisfying.
 

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Very nice! I disagree about the fuse, just make sure your using safe batteries, I only use sony VTC5 batteries on my mech when running a genesis because my builds are prone to occasional shorts. On my dripper, i'll happily run AW IMR batteries if my ohms are above .8 (IMR's are safe to .7 or .8 ohms?)

You might want to pick up an RSST or Pyrex RSST for practice on the genesis. The RSST has insulated wick holes, meaning that the mesh can't ground to the wick hole, unlike most genesis atomizers, I believe the Kraken is included in this. RSST also has an "insulated" tank, both versions. It's plastic all the way around on the original, and has a rubber bottom on the Pyrex version.

I prefer to microcoil genesis attys. I used my Pyrex RSST EXCLUSIVELY for a few months when I still owned my Provari. Just sold it yesterday, kind of sad, but I had to allow my vape budget hands (and my wife) to let me buy a REO.
Anyway, the microcoil distributes the heat on the mesh wicks alot better than a standard coil. I feel like standard coils, 3/4, 5/6 wraps inherently create hot spots where the wire touches the wick, even though they're glowing evenly. The microcoil vaped better by a margin of leaps and bounds for me. I preferred a 28 gauge build, wrapped around a 1/8" drill bit, 9 or 10 times. Ohms came out at 2.4 and worked fantastic on the Provari at 5.3-6 volts. You could achieve similar results by doing the same amount of wraps with 26 gauge, I think that's closer to 1.5 ohms. 26 gauge is tough stuff, it won't pop easily, but if a short happens, I suppose it's riskier battery wise.

I don't see anybody microcoiling genesis atomizers, maybe I'm unique. My current genesis is a clone of the Dome by atmomixani. Very nice, but HUGE. I've sort of grown out of the genesis attys. They are challenging to build and rewarding, which I like. It feels really good to have a kick .... vape from a genesis and know that your own hands produced it. I've been more exclusive to drippers since I got my mechanical about a week ago.

I did a build just now on my Trident V2 where I wrapped #400 SS mesh around a length of 28 gauge wire, thus making the mesh part of the coil. Too lazy to take pictures at the moment, I worked at 5am, and have little motivation for much. Came out to .82 ohms and is truly a dream. I didn't count the wraps, but I think it's a 6 or 7 wrap microcoil then threaded cotton inside. The result is the clean, crisp flavor provided by steel mesh, combined with the density produced by cotton. If you have a lot of spare time, watch some of RipTrippers videos on youtube. He is a guru to say the least.

Sorry guys for the lengthy post. I like to share =]

Still though, as everyone else has said, a concrete understanding of battery safety and ohms laws is the ultimate prerequisite before you even THINK about trying a build on a mechanical. Once you understand it, its a cinch, its second nature. But put forth the effort, so you can maximize your enjoyment, and have the capacity to educate others later on, because this forum exists solely for the purpose of sharing knowledge. And that's why it's awesome
 
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