RDA First RDA & Mech mod otw! Freakshow + 4Nine clone

[jj6404]

So after just a month of vaping I went from ego to ego vv to istick + nautilus mini to istick + subtank mini.

I found the 4Nine clone on sale for real cheap so I ordered it. Next thing I knew, I ordered some Efest 18650s, a nitecore, and was researching for a good first rda... I settled on the carbon fiber freakshow. Now I have a couple noob questions:

1) what do you vets think about my setup for my intro into dripping?
2) does anyone know if the carbon fiber freakshow is the version 2 where you can build single or dual coil or is it dual coil only?

 

[Bjorhyn]

I would have steered you away from a hybrid (direct atty to battery) mod, since they're a bit finicky to start with.

Make sure the Freakshow's 510 pin isn't flush or recessed. You don't want the atty threads hitting the battery instead of the 510 pin.

Aside from that, it's a good set.

I wish I had some info for you on the Freakshow.

 

[jj6404]

I would have steered you away from a hybrid (direct atty to battery) mod, since they're a bit finicky to start with.

Make sure the Freakshow's 510 pin isn't flush or recessed. You don't want the atty threads hitting the battery instead of the 510 pin.

Aside from that, it's a good set.

I wish I had some info for you on the Freakshow.

Yeah...I'm starting to get worried now that it was not a good choice. So would you of steered me towards for a first mech?? (cheap clone that won't blow up)

 

[Never Lift]

The 4nine is my favorite mod and a clone was my second mec. There great just have to be careful about witch attys you put on there, gotta make sure the 510 positive pin sticks out past the 510 threads if not it will short the battery and you rick venting. Some atomizers 510 wont be long enough to clear the hybrid top cap and wont do anything.

the brass paps clone from fastech (sku1830405) would be the best bang for your buck. Otherwise I'd look into a panzer, stingray, nemisis.

 

[Bjorhyn]

Yeah...I'm starting to get worried now that it was not a good choice. So would you of steered me towards for a first mech?? (cheap clone that won't blow up)

It wasn't necessarily a bad idea. Hybrids do have a higher learning curve, but as long as you're careful with your atties, it shouldn't be a problem. Be aware that if the middle, bottom of the mod, or switch gets really hot really fast, it's probably shorting. Most likely cause is the atty threads hitting the battery.

I'm not sure I'm crazy about the Stingray, Panzer, and Nemesis, mostly because I prefer solid tube mods, but they're not bad. The Panzer is a little tricky to adjust, and the Stingray switch is very sensitive.
The more battery sections they have attribute to voltage drop.
I like copper, which really helps conductivity.
The Penny, and Mutation mechs have treated me very well.

 

[Never Lift]

O yeah attys with a floating 510 like the aspire nautilus are a no go. You can push the buttons so hard you make the pin go in and short, trust me I know from experience...

 

[Pensilac]

The carbon fiber one is one of the new ones with the single air flow option. I really like the Freakshow, it has good flavor and ample air flow with the ability to restrict it if wide open is too much for you. My Freakshow's 510 pin protrudes quite a bit so more than likely yours should work fine on the 4Nine. Just be mindful of it when purchasing other atties as this is not the case with all and the pin absolutely has to protrude otherwise you'll just be shorting your battery.

I've never used a 4Nine myself but some people at my work have them and really like them.

 

[jj6404]

Another mod just caught my eye... The Paragon clone. It's carbon fiber coated just like the freakshow! That one is single tube I think. Anyone have any opinions on that?

 

[Bjorhyn]

Another mod just caught my eye... The Paragon clone. It's carbon fiber coated just like the freakshow! That one is single tube I think. Anyone have any opinions on that?

The Paragon is a good mod. I've liked the performance, solid copper body and most clones have brass contact pins. While they're not as conductive as silver/copper plated, they don't tarnish as fast and require less cleaning.
Recessed switches and locking rings make smile. Very pocket friendly.

My only compliant is the carbon fibre. It's not my personal style, but should look great with the Freakshow. I think my aversion is from people overusing it on car parts.
I ended up spraying mine with rubber sealant.

 

[jj6404]

The Paragon is a good mod. I've liked the performance, solid copper body and most clones have brass contact pins. While they're not as conductive as silver/copper plated, they don't tarnish as fast and require less cleaning.
Recessed switches and locking rings make smile. Very pocket friendly.

My only compliant is the carbon fibre. It's not my personal style, but should look great with the Freakshow. I think my aversion is from people overusing it on car parts.
I ended up spraying mine with rubber sealant.

So you have one? Who makes yours? On vaperoyalty, the hcigar version says copper contacts and the infinite version (the midnight edition) says silver contacts.

 

[Bjorhyn]

So you have one? Who makes yours? On vaperoyalty, the hcigar version says copper contacts and the infinite version (the midnight edition) says silver contacts.

I do, although I have no idea who made it. I found it at a local B&M, and they were no help, as usual.
If given the choice, I'd go with silver contacts. I've plated a few of mine, and like to think they work better than copper. I do have to clean them more frequently, though.

 

[DaveSignal]

I got my paragon clone from an eBay seller. I think it is made by infinite, but not the midnight edition. I've never had a problem with it. I don't think you will have a problem with that or the 4nine. My freakshow is downstairs and I don't feel like getting it atm, but IIRC, the 510 pin is adjustable. So you won't have any issues as long as you set it up so the pin sticks out a little.

Freakshow is a great atomizer, but you need to build it in kind of a very specific way for it to work right. If you have issues, people here can help you... I have pictures of some of my freakshow builds.

 

[jj6404]

I got my paragon clone from an eBay seller. I think it is made by infinite, but not the midnight edition. I've never had a problem with it. I don't think you will have a problem with that or the 4nine. My freakshow is downstairs and I don't feel like getting it atm, but IIRC, the 510 pin is adjustable. So you won't have any issues as long as you set it up so the pin sticks out a little.

Freakshow is a great atomizer, but you need to build it in kind of a very specific way for it to work right. If you have issues, people here can help you... I have pictures of some of my freakshow builds.

Hmm. Seems the only thing with the Paragon clone is you don't have the option to use a smaller battery than an 18650 with it. Am I right?

 

[Bjorhyn]

Hmm. Seems the only thing with the Paragon clone is you don't have the option to use a smaller battery than an 18650 with it. Am I right?

That is correct.
The advantage of using the multi-piece tubes is being able to use several different battery sizes. If you like stealth vaping on occasion, or want something easier to carry, they might suit your needs.

I like the battery life from the 18650's, and the fact solid tubes have better voltage conductivity, so they don't appeal to me.

 

[jj6404]

I got my paragon clone from an eBay seller. I think it is made by infinite, but not the midnight edition. I've never had a problem with it. I don't think you will have a problem with that or the 4nine. My freakshow is downstairs and I don't feel like getting it atm, but IIRC, the 510 pin is adjustable. So you won't have any issues as long as you set it up so the pin sticks out a little.

Freakshow is a great atomizer, but you need to build it in kind of a very specific way for it to work right. If you have issues, people here can help you... I have pictures of some of my freakshow builds.

Would you be willing to share the pics? Lol

 

[DaveSignal]

Hmm. Seems the only thing with the Paragon clone is you don't have the option to use a smaller battery than an 18650 with it. Am I right?

The freakshow is an RDA with good airflow designed to be used at sub-ohm resistances. Smaller batteries do not have close to the same continuous amperage ratings and may not be safe. I don't think you should be using anything other than an 18650 with an atty like the freakshow. So if you are vaping safely then there is really no point to a mod with a ton of modules for smaller batteries.

 

[DaveSignal]

Would you be willing to share the pics? Lol

Well, obviously you want the coils directly over the airflow holes on the deck, but it also helps, IMO, to keep the cotton touching the barrel and going around the circumference of the deck. The cotton is in the juice well, but then after I put the barrel back on, I also pushed it up a little bit on the outer edge of the deck to keep liquid from getting into the air holes.

This is my current build, using 24 gauge wire. I drip it through the top cap, so my drops land near the open center area there before soaking into the wicks

I took this picture a few weeks ago while in the middle of vaping it, after someone else on the forums asked me a question. I can get some better pics next time I am using that RDA.

 

[jj6404]

The freakshow is an RDA with good airflow designed to be used at sub-ohm resistances. Smaller batteries do not have close to the same continuous amperage ratings and may not be safe. I don't think you should be using anything other than an 18650 with an atty like the freakshow. So if you are vaping safely then there is really no point to a mod with a ton of modules for smaller batteries.

Good point.

Well, obviously you want the coils directly over the airflow holes on the deck, but it also helps, IMO, to keep the cotton touching the barrel and going around the circumference of the deck. The cotton is in the juice well, but then after I put the barrel back on, I also pushed it up a little bit on the outer edge of the deck to keep liquid from getting into the air holes.

This is my current build, using 24 gauge wire. I drip it through the top cap, so my drops land near the open center area there before soaking into the wicks

I took this picture a few weeks ago while in the middle of vaping it, after someone else on the forums asked me a question. I can get some better pics next time I am using that RDA.

Thanks. Yeah, one of my concerns was leaking into those air holes.

 

[porkchopbun]

I only had leaking on my first build with Freakshow v1, then as I got better at wicking the cotton on Freakshow, I haven't had any major issues. For the 20.00 I spend on it, it's great value and has pretty good vapor production and flavor on the e-juice I use (high VG).

My sweet spot is from .4 to 5 ohm for this RDA.

 

[jj6404]

Ok so I just got my 4nine clone in the mail and I need to post this here to make sure I'm not crazy. Is this thing really this small?? Is this full 18650 mode??


Also, I screwed my subtank mini into the hybrid top cap and this is what it looks like. It appears that the 510 pin of the subtank mini does not protrude far enough past the threads to avoid a short. Am I right in assuming this?