First temp control device... What to get?

[JonasDK]

Hi guys.

I've been wanting to get my first temp control device, but I'm a little unsure of what to get.
I've had my eye on the evic vt, just to keep it pocket friendly. But from what I've heard a nickel build should usually be considerably lower than a kanthal build(0.15-0.2 ohms, from what I've heard). And if that's the case the 60 watts that the vt can deliver seems a little low to me. But I only have experience with kanthal, so I just wanted ask if it's different with nickel?

 

[edyle]

ohms alone does not tell you about watts, even with kanthal.

 

[BigEgo]

Hi guys.

I've been wanting to get my first temp control device, but I'm a little unsure of what to get.
I've had my eye on the evic vt, just to keep it pocket friendly. But from what I've heard a nickel build should usually be considerably lower than a kanthal build(0.15-0.2 ohms, from what I've heard). And if that's the case the 60 watts that the vt can deliver seems a little low to me. But I only have experience with kanthal, so I just wanted ask if it's different with nickel?

The amount of power needed is more dependent on the coil diameter and surface area than it is the resistance (the size of the coil will determine the heat flux and heat capacity). 60 watts should be plenty for most nickel builds. You will probably the temp limit long before you use those 60 watts.

Also, keep in mind that the evic-vt can handle titanium wire as well. It's resistance is higher and a lot of people prefer it over nickel.

 

[footbag]

Hi guys.

I've been wanting to get my first temp control device, but I'm a little unsure of what to get.
I've had my eye on the evic vt, just to keep it pocket friendly. But from what I've heard a nickel build should usually be considerably lower than a kanthal build(0.15-0.2 ohms, from what I've heard). And if that's the case the 60 watts that the vt can deliver seems a little low to me. But I only have experience with kanthal, so I just wanted ask if it's different with nickel?

It's very different with Nickel. The main reason is that when the coil gets heated, the resistance rises. So you are not really firing on a coil that's .15 ohms. It rises a lot from what I remember, but I don't know exact figures. It depends on the wires TCR(Thermal Conductivity Ratio)which differs with wire type.

I don't have experience with the Evic VT, but my SXMini tops out at 50J(close to 50w). For the typical coil this is going to be fine. I have a DNA 200 coming, but it's hard to imagine going much higher then 50w with my current gear.

So basically, there are a few factors. A device can have a pre-heat(terminology?). The first split second it delivers a lot of power to pre-heat the coil. That way you aren't waiting for it to come up to temp at your current setting. Then, after the pre-heat, the device delivers the amount of wattage you are set for. If it hits the temp cutoff, it will pulse or reduce the current to maintain that temp. A higher wattage may make it hit that temp faster, but wattage isn't as important as it used to be as long as it can hit the desired temp.

With TC, you are using two settings, temp and wattage for adjustments. Since they have become decoupled, you can find a better balance of flavor and volume. You don't have to sacrifice one for the other as much has you used to.

 

[niczgreat]

Look at the Cloupor GT 80 and the IPV3 li
Angel Cigs has them under $70.00

I have the Cloupor GT and like the small form factor also soft on my pocket
I'm thinking about getting an IPV3 too.

One advantage of the Cloupor GT besides price is that I'm vaping Stainless Steel Coils in Temp Mode. I'm
vaping .25Ohm SS Coils on my Crown Tank at very low wattage 270'F But it's hitting very hard. For some reason I like the TC
Mode better then wattage mode on the SS Coil.

Evic VT will recognize the coils and is only supporting Ni and Ti Coils in temperature mode.

The IPV3 with LI supports both NI and Titanium with the firmware upgrade and goes to 200 Watts. Don't know if you can vape SS
but who knows with firmware upgrade they might add the feature.
It's a real contender with a high satisfaction rate.

 

[cricque]

Ipv D2 is another pocket friendly device
Make sure you have some good batteries like an LG he2 or he4 (or the new HG), or samsung 25-r. FOr nickel you need alot of wraps, i am using titanium grade 1 coils now, easy to wrap and use

And the watts only matter up to a certain point. You just give power to heat up to the desired temperature and then you use alot less