First trip to B&M Vape Store....any warnings/suggestions/cautions?

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anumber1

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Have you any experience with vape gear?
If not, try to do a little research as to what you are looking for.
You dont need to spend $100 to get a basic ego style setup with 2 batterys and a couple of clearomizer tanks to start off with. A cig-a-like kit should be much cheaper.

Try to have a rough idea about what you are looking for if you can.

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Depending on the store (it's not like there's an industry standard for B&M's), you might walk in to a den of subohming cool kids who've got vapor clouds filling the room to your knees. They're into the extreme vaping scene and can be off-putting. Just look right past them - they're the equivalent of the car tuner street racers.

They should have a bit of a juice bar set up so you can taste a variety of juices. This is probably the best thing about B&M's - hands on with the most subjective part of vaping. Try as many as you can - like wine or food, it's a deep subject you should take your time with.

Gear is the other reason to visit a B&M - it's a great way to get see devices and tanks in the flesh... er, metal and glass. Don't be intimidated by all the choices - they're likely catering to a wide variety of vapers. Ask a lot of questions. There are no dumb ones. This activity has only existed for about 7 years. Even the most advanced vapers are, like, 2 years in, so it's not like they have a "lifetime" of experience to lord over you.

Now, the biggest issue with B&M's is the pricing. They have overhead (rent, utilities, staff, material costs) and charge more than any online vendor for the same products. It's completely understandable - by and large they're not gouging. My rule of thumb is: if they helped me, I buy there... once. If I can find that product online, I do that after the initial purchase. That's my rule. You'll have yours.
 

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I have personally never been inside a brick in mortar store with "good" prices not compared to what you can pay on the internet. I have gotten some good juice from B&M's though but they never want to sell in large quantities I like to buy over 100mils at a time once I know I like the flavor. And I have been in quite a few B&M's here in New Orleans area as well as in Chicago and I have only ever visited 1 that actually had people working there that really knew what they were talking about. Very disappointing honestly.
 

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Depending on the store (it's not like there's an industry standard for B&M's), you might walk in to a den of subohming cool kids who've got vapor clouds filling the room to your knees. They're into the extreme vaping scene and can be off-putting. Just look right past them - they're the equivalent of the car tuner street racers.

They should have a bit of a juice bar set up so you can taste a variety of juices. This is probably the best thing about B&M's - hands on with the most subjective part of vaping. Try as many as you can - like wine or food, it's a deep subject you should take your time with.

Gear is the other reason to visit a B&M - it's a great way to get see devices and tanks in the flesh... er, metal and glass. Don't be intimidated by all the choices - they're likely catering to a wide variety of vapers. Ask a lot of questions. There are no dumb ones. This activity has only existed for about 7 years. Even the most advanced vapers are, like, 2 years in, so it's not like they have a "lifetime" of experience to lord over you.

Now, the biggest issue with B&M's is the pricing. They have overhead (rent, utilities, staff, material costs) and charge more than any online vendor for the same products. It's completely understandable - by and large they're not gouging. My rule of thumb is: if they helped me, I buy there... once. If I can find that product online, I do that after the initial purchase. That's my rule. You'll have yours.

Excellent advice, Papa! I agree with all that you said. My first experience was in a local shop. They were all young, but very friendly, helpful and patient about explaining everything, and letting me sample juices. It was the first time I had tried out vaping, after a few days with a Blu cigalike kit.

The fever was upon me, and I really wanted to get started and get the show on the road. I left the store with a couple of ego batteries, 2 toppers, and 3 small bottles of juice. Now that I know what stuff costs, I know that I probably paid about $25 more than I could have got the same things online. It was well worth it to me though, to come home and be able to put the cigarettes down and start vaping right away.

I've been back a couple of times since then and bought some heads and another small bottle of juice, because I was waiting for some things to ship. The gal who helped me to start with remembered me and was very sweet. I am a grandma, (and old, but don't tell anyone, lol). She got a big kick out of the fact that I wanted to start vaping. She said she had told her boss about me after I left the first time.:)
 

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I made my first visit to a new shop that opened near me recently. I was super nervous! But the staff were super friendly and knowledgeable. I now visit it fairly regularly so I get to see all kinds of customers. First off, there really aren't any stupid questions to ask. Believe me, they hear it all :D. Don't be afraid to ask them to demonstrate things, or let you handle gear to get comfortable with it before buying. And if you have a rough idea what you're looking for, quickly check out some prices online so you can set yourself a budget. I always end up seeing something shiny and new whenever I go so if you have a budget it'll help curb impulse buys. I hope you have fun, and learn a lot from the staff!
 
Depending on the store (it's not like there's an industry standard for B&M's), you might walk in to a den of subohming cool kids who've got vapor clouds filling the room to your knees. They're into the extreme vaping scene and can be off-putting. Just look right past them - they're the equivalent of the car tuner street racers.

They should have a bit of a juice bar set up so you can taste a variety of juices. This is probably the best thing about B&M's - hands on with the most subjective part of vaping. Try as many as you can - like wine or food, it's a deep subject you should take your time with.

Gear is the other reason to visit a B&M - it's a great way to get see devices and tanks in the flesh... er, metal and glass. Don't be intimidated by all the choices - they're likely catering to a wide variety of vapers. Ask a lot of questions. There are no dumb ones. This activity has only existed for about 7 years. Even the most advanced vapers are, like, 2 years in, so it's not like they have a "lifetime" of experience to lord over you.

Now, the biggest issue with B&M's is the pricing. They have overhead (rent, utilities, staff, material costs) and charge more than any online vendor for the same products. It's completely understandable - by and large they're not gouging. My rule of thumb is: if they helped me, I buy there... once. If I can find that product online, I do that after the initial purchase. That's my rule. You'll have yours.

Dear Papa_Lazarou, I took your rules to heart. I am going to post about my experience. But thanks for the great advice. It did not fall on deaf ears! Love your replies! Hugs! Doreen
 

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Sub-Ohm vaping is vaping at a resistance lower than 1.0 ohms. 0.9 and below would be considered sub-ohm. Typically, on rebuildable devices, sub-ohming really brings out the flavor and, if you're that type of person, the cloud production. The throat hit is pretty intense, too. I think that, for most vapers, 1.6-2.2ohm heads are just fine. I started out with EVODs and they worked fantastically. Right now, I'm trying my hands at rebuilding. It definitely delivers a warmer vaping experience. It is something you will have to experiment with.

I wouldn't worry too much about sub-ohm vaping, though. Like I said before, regular pre-built heads will do just fine. It's more for the tinker-ers ;)
 

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I get more vapor at 1.2 to 1.9 ohms by kicking mechs or dialing VV/VW mods up than I ever did sub-ohm. might take dual nano coils to make me happy, but 800mah 18350 batteries last longer that way than 18650 2500mah batteries ever did by themselves.

Look for knowledgable people, my local vape shop wont hire someone who cant memorize and use the formula for watts (Volts x Volts / ohms = watts fyi)

Also my local guys are not too greedy, $20 for 30ml of in house made juice and $35 for a Nautilus with $3 for heads, I have checked everything intheir store and they charge middle of the road internet prices for their over the counter sales.

If you are looking for something in particular, look it up before you go, I don't mind paying 10% for something in stock, but damned if I will pay double for something I can have shipped and in my hand in 3 days.
 

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I have personally never been inside a brick in mortar store with "good" prices not compared to what you can pay on the internet. I have gotten some good juice from B&M's though but they never want to sell in large quantities I like to buy over 100mils at a time once I know I like the flavor. And I have been in quite a few B&M's here in New Orleans area as well as in Chicago and I have only ever visited 1 that actually had people working there that really knew what they were talking about. Very disappointing honestly.

which place in chicago. i have yet to check out any B&M stores here.
 

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A good store is going to have great customer service. They should ask you a number of questions prior to making their recommendation/suggestions. There should be a choice of recommendations/suggestions and the store should identify the pros and cons of each not just the price. This includes every piece of the mod including battery, charger, and topper.
 

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The most important thing for me my first trip was the staff helping me understand what I was looking at. I was fortunate enough to have a salesperson that was really interested in helping me make the right choice. He wasn't so much interested in selling me the most expensive setup in the shop but more interested in selling me something that I would be happy with. Seeing that I had no idea of what I was doing he spent quite a bit of time actually helping me make the right selection for my needs. I thank this young man every time I go in the shop because of his patience and knowledge, I was able to drop the cigs and have been very satisfied since. Another thing is to do your homework. Know what your choices cost on the internet. They have overhead that they have to cover so the equipment will cost a little more but knowing the price range will prevent you from overspending to the extreme. Also try out several juices if offered. Buy juice in small quantities because your taste buds WILL CHANGE! I have several bottles of juice that I bought before the change came about and I can't stand them now. Just a few helpful tips. GL and Happy Vaping!
 

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A warning...
I can think of one. They are maybe going to have a tasting bar there, and a lot of the juices are going to taste great, but you might want to sneak out of bed in the morning, if you know what I mean. Take your time, and really test the juice, think about the flavor, too rich can be a real problem for me. I love it at first, until I can't stand it.
Remember you are not obligated to buy, just because you took a sample.

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