Five Pawns now has a $38 for a 30ml bottle of juice

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i wouldn't eat that
 

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jim829:10151523 said:
IMO, all e-liquid is a rip off, so i seldom buy it. I will say in five pawns defense, that bourbon barrels are expensive.

Things i have learned by reading this thread:
-All juice vendors should be compared to MBV
-E-juice is not liquor
-People still use the evic
-high end players do not eat mac-and-cheese nor do they partake of Big Gulps.

Lol!! I'm not rich by any means...but when 40 dollars looks like a laughable expenditure it's probably time to start looking at your career choices in life, seriously...and the only reason i say mbv by name is because they seem to be the McDonalds of the vaping world. Same people that think a "burger" no matter what that burger consists of, for a dollar is a "deal" will think mbv has passable juice because it can be vaped.
 

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polingpower:10151808 said:
Well if I buy the mac and cheese with the foil pack of cheez whiz, does that mean I'm still poor?

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no that is middle class mac & cheese
the powder cheese where you add the milk.... that is the poor peoples mac&cheese

Lol processed box food is middle class now? I'm turning republican lol
 

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Pfff @ian74 why am I dumb because I can afford premium juice? This price is only rediculous to those too broke to buy it. If you can't afford it there's no need to insult those of us who can... I'll pay good money for good eliquid that a special amount of care was put into. If I wanted 15 dollar liquid I'd buy that swill. I want quality. Its still less expensive than smokes.

You're dumb because what makes their juice "premium" is that they waste money on fancy labels and cardboard tubes to pack it in (and marketing) There are only a few flavoring companies that all vendors use, they all buy nicotine from the same place, they all use the same glycerol and PG. So, what makes it premium? Hype and packaging. I can afford it, so that's not my problem. I could find you plenty of 15 dollar eliquids that taste far better and are more available than this five pawns juice. Or you can just assume I hate it because I just too po' to buy it!

You can't compare it to a fancy car vs a jalopy, or powdered mac and cheese vs. lobster mac and cheese. They're using the same ingredients as everyone else while fancier cars are better engineered and have less plastic in them. I doubt that there is something in 5 pawns that makes it so "premium."

The mod argument is dumb and not comparable. Chinese aluminum garbage produced in sweatshops vs stainless and brass made in a small shop. This is where the cost differences come from. Eliquid markups are priced that way because they know there are people out there that will always equate more expensive with "better" when it's actually the same crap that everyone else is selling.
 

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Lol!! I'm not rich by any means...but when 40 dollars looks like a laughable expenditure it's probably time to start looking at your career choices in life, seriously...and the only reason i say mbv by name is because they seem to be the McDonalds of the vaping world. Same people that think a "burger" no matter what that burger consists of, for a dollar is a "deal" will think mbv has passable juice because it can be vaped.

You should probably learn to recognize frugality for what it is. We don't have to reconsider career choices because we see $40 as a laughable expenditure. It is just that for what you are getting, at least to the frugal folks.
 

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Lol!! I'm not rich by any means...but when 40 dollars looks like a laughable expenditure it's probably time to start looking at your career choices in life.

Ouch! Getting personal there.

Just because I could afford to buy something doesn't mean I'm going to... If I read enough good reviews on it I would consider getting something in this price range for a special occasion.. but with all the great juices out there from vendors that are more than half the cost.. I can't foresee this juice in my future.

If one can afford it.. and love it.. then by all means vape it..

if one brags about buying expensive juice and will only try or buy from expensive juice vendors.. that's lame lol
 

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Lol!! I'm not rich by any means...but when 40 dollars looks like a laughable expenditure it's probably time to start looking at your career choices in life, seriously...and the only reason i say mbv by name is because they seem to be the McDonalds of the vaping world. Same people that think a "burger" no matter what that burger consists of, for a dollar is a "deal" will think mbv has passable juice because it can be vaped.

You're right.. it is not a huge amount of money to drop.. especially compared to cigarettes. But compared to other eliquid, and GOOD eliquid, not McBakers, its outrageous to some.. as this thread has demonstrated.

Personally, I really feel like sending a thank you note to vendors such as, ahlusion, Alice, alien... They are frequently off line because they can not keep up with demand. Yet we have seen no significant hike in price. I don't know if its naive, or if they are just good hearted, or if they're afraid to lose their customer base. But I appreciate good value as well as good quality, and this five pawns phenomena makes me a little nervous.

Yeah they have good juice but do I think its 200% better than other good juice, as the price would reflect. HELL NO!



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I think the po' folk and the rich folk can all rustle up the $40 price tag. So if that's what it takes to make you feel like you've "made it" in life, then by all means.. have at er.

But I'm perfectly content sitting here at my lakehouse, with my moderately priced Kentucky blend watching my dear hubby struggling trying to get the boat docked...

And suddenly I have this strange craving for mac and cheese.

We didn't get this place by wasting money on stupid crap.. no sense in starting now just cuz we can afford to.

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SharonMM:10151973 said:
Lol!! I'm not rich by any means...but when 40 dollars looks like a laughable expenditure it's probably time to start looking at your career choices in life, seriously...and the only reason i say mbv by name is because they seem to be the McDonalds of the vaping world. Same people that think a "burger" no matter what that burger consists of, for a dollar is a "deal" will think mbv has passable juice because it can be vaped.

You're right.. it is not a huge amount of money to drop.. especially compared to cigarettes. But compared to other eliquid, and GOOD eliquid, not McBakers, its outrageous to some.. as this thread has demonstrated.

Personally, I really feel like sending a thank you note to vendors such as, ahlusion, Alice, alien... They are frequently off line because they can not keep up with demand. Yet we have seen no significant hike in price. I don't know if its naive, or if they are just good hearted, or if they're afraid to lose their customer base. But I appreciate good value as well as good quality, and this five pawns phenomena makes me a little nervous.

Yeah they have good juice but do I think its 200% better than other good juice, as the price would reflect. HELL NO!



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If you have to question price before you can answer whether or not you want something, youre hurting. I'm not saying you. But you can't say i have the money its not an issue then say 38 dollars is out of the question for good juice. Not that its not worth 38 to those that want it, its just random hating for people who don't find the price to be a brick wall keeping you out. Look at it like this, if there were suckers that were 3 for a dime, or one you really liked for a quarter, would you not buy the one you liked? Or would you say oh, the good one has the same sugar and flavor as the dime ones, I'll buy th e crap ones? No, because money wouldn't be an issue.
 

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If you have to question price before you can answer whether or not you want something, youre hurting. I'm not saying you. But you can't say i have the money its not an issue then say 38 dollars is out of the question for good juice. Not that its not worth 38 to those that want it, its just random hating for people who don't find the price to be a brick wall keeping you out. Look at it like this, if there were suckers that were 3 for a dime, or one you really liked for a quarter, would you not buy the one you liked? Or would you say oh, the good one has the same sugar and flavor as the dime ones, I'll buy th e crap ones? No, because money wouldn't be an issue.

The thing is that I have tried it and it's not worth the price. There are much better flavors for quarter of the price. I didn't think it was worth the money before and after trying them. They can fancy up the packaging as much as they want and it will never justify their overcompensation of greed. They are just an expensive boutique juice, and that's all. You can feel like you're making more money than us, when in reality, we're simply saving more than you.
 

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Well yeah I question price.. I find the best deal on everything so I can have money for the stuff I really want like my trip to Ireland in the fall.

So whatever if you want to act all bling bling money ain't a thang, I'm sorry but I don't think that's smart for anyone in the 99%. Because until you are at that 1% level money IS a thing, and if you are careful with it you can have a really nice life.

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their flavors are like no other from a quality and flavor perspective so I am willing to spend my money on them.

my only thing. is... and I don't mean this poster in particular... but I read this sentiment a lot from people - but like no other... the best... high end... exquisite etc...

When I read this from someone who has either vaped a year or two and/or tried many of the vendors out there, I give it a little bit more attention... please, no offense new vapers... you may have a better palate than me... but no matter how great your flavor buds are... unless you've tried 50 or 100 different vendors, how can you really assess that their juice is in another league?

I know you can;t tell how long someone's been vaping from their ecf join date... many people join a year or two after vaping... but if you are going to say that their juice is in another league from other high-end juice makers, then back it up.

I have sampled 5 pawns... and I did like them... I thought the juices were mixed really well... flavoring didn't strike me as something unique, but the mixing did... In other words, I think they are definitely using some flavorings other vendors use...

I may or may not buy some 5 pawns... if I do... it will not be because I think they are better than the other expensive juices... just different... Their flavors are unique... you have to give them that - and if you like these flavors enough... then I think you are justified in paying whatever you deem worth it... $3300 if you will ;-)

their grandmaster tastes different than the Vapor Chef's Smuffer scmutter - not better, just different - similar quality - pawns is more peanutty, chef's is more marshmallowy...

anyway, it's a new market and there are a lot of dollars up for grabs.

I think 5 pawns is responding well to this challenge... They are not going out of their way to tell us to buy their juice... they are not claiming to be better.

They are not really harming the e-cig business by charging these prices... not like the mall vendors who sell a fancy $20 510 for $175 -

They back up their product with good flavorings, unique mixes and awesome packaging...

I think I am going to take $150 or so... and buy some of these boutique juices... the standard, midas and others from elevated vaping and the rest...

and put them up against what I think are solid juices and compare their flavor profiles and performance...
 

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SharonMM:10152106 said:
I think the po' folk and the rich folk can all rustle up the $40 price tag. So if that's what it takes to make you feel like you've "made it" in life, then by all means.. have at er.

But I'm perfectly content sitting here at my lakehouse, with my moderately priced Kentucky blend watching my dear hubby struggling trying to get the boat docked...

And suddenly I have this strange craving for mac and cheese.

We didn't get this place by wasting money on stupid crap.. no sense in starting now just cuz we can afford to.

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bring able to buy what i want for 38 dollars doesn't make me feel like i made it...but it does make me feel like I'm where i should be as an adult, not hating on people because they can afford to buy e juice that i think i can buy more of at a lesser quality. I don't want to have to make serious economic life choices over petty things like e juice, no
 

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    Life is short, if you like it, enjoy it. If you dont, then dont buy it again.


    Sometimes stuff is expensive without justification. That usually sucks.

    but sometimes something is expensive, and its worth every damn penny.

    Not saying this juice is/isnt, idk if it is, just putting my 2cents out there.



    Ive got no problem paying top dollar for quality. If the item is worth the cost, the cost doesnt matter.
     
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