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Flavor ban in Michigan

Discussion in 'New Members Forum' started by Evesevere, Sep 5, 2019.

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  1. Evesevere

    Evesevere Full Member

    Dec 5, 2017
    Our governor in the state of Michigan wants to ban E juice flavors as early as tomorrow! That would literally give shops one month to get rid of their juice supplies and also cause anyone who vapes to have to use tobacco or menthol tobacco flavors.
    This came up on very suddenly and we are trying to stop it by writing letters and calling our local representatives.

    We do have people that are trying to get her “impeached“ which at this moment seems like a waste of time. Not to say I would love that but I think if you really want to make an impact signing this form letter and using your name and address will hopefully get the point across a lot quicker.
    If you click on this link it takes you directly to a form style letter which all you have to do is put your name and a few other things in and it sends it for you so it’s super easy.
    Also you can click the boxes so you do not receive email or text messages.

    Even if you don’t live in Michigan you would be helping out a lot of your fellow vapors!
    Thanks!!
    MI - Stop Gov. Whitmer's Flavor Ban!
     
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  2. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    Howdy and welcome :)

    This is pretty big news in these parts and several threads have been started on the subject. This thread may be merged into those threads. Iirc if you actually live in MI there are things you can do about it. There were details of some kind. I don’t live there so I didn’t pay attention but if you do you may want to read the thread.
     
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  3. NealBJr

    NealBJr Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 27, 2013
    Lawrenceville, Ga.
    Please keep this post here as well. I do not visit all the forums, and this is the first time I'm hearing about it. I am sure others might miss it in the other threads.
     
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  4. vaper1960

    vaper1960 Super Member

    Apr 24, 2019
    California, US
    Unfreakingbeliveable! I feel for you... this world can be so ars backwards. I suppose the only juice we should be allowed to vape is ashtray flavor... and it will be named "butt juice" :rolleyes:
     
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  5. escapetovape

    escapetovape Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 24, 2018
    Brisbane, AU
    inb4 knock-off flavour; Hershey Squirts
     
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  6. BrotherBob

    BrotherBob ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2014
    Sunnyvale,CA,USA
    Your post in the new members forum is one of those threads that I see no problems where posted, it's that important.
    Could also call to action members in:
    General E-Liquid Discussion
    You might and others might like to read:
    MICHIGAN: URGENT Call to Action!
     
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  7. Tabac man

    Tabac man Super Member

    May 24, 2019
    London
    If I ran out of smokes I would break up the butts in the ash tray and re roll them. Recreate that nasty crud flavour. It would be sure to deter the young uns.
     
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  8. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    I think the post is fine I will sign the petition, because where ONE state goes, others will surely follow. Sigh.

    Anna
     
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  9. Dr. Dean Marino

    Dr. Dean Marino Moved On

    Sep 6, 2019
  10. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    None of your links are actually functional including the bottom one. Perhaps an edit or repost is in order so we can see what you are seeing.

    All I have to work with is the quotes you pulled. Even they have issues though.

    Re: banning flavors.
    1. The issue seems to be entirely the adulteration or replacement of FDA registered and controlled liquid with NON FDA liquids. Restricting liquid flavors does nothing to affect this problem.

    2. The FDA ALREADY banned flavored liquids from being sold in gas stations on a national level. They did this because gas stations were the places where kids were getting their JUULs This ban attacks only vape shops which retained their flavor selling ability federally because they DID keep kids from acquiring product. This attacks only the groups that weren’t causing a problem in the first place.
     
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  11. Dr. Dean Marino

    Dr. Dean Marino Moved On

    Sep 6, 2019
    I see that this site indicates "URL has been removed" - with all links. I can't fix that - it's a site choice.

    Sorry to have bothered anyone.

    No longer posting here.
     
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  12. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    NOooooo! There are ways to do the links so they work! That stuff is to prevent spammers and is automatic. We can talk you through it. It sounds like you’re exactly the right person to be involved in this.
     
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  13. Dr. Dean Marino

    Dr. Dean Marino Moved On

    Sep 6, 2019

    Nope - going elsewhere. Tired of this sort of garbage.

    Taking steps to eliminate posts, and obfuscate account. If you wanted real data? You would have engineered the site accordingly.
     
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  14. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    You’re not familiar with exactly how bad the spam problem is then.
     
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  15. Misty

    Misty Forum Admin
    Supplier/Commercial Manager
    Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Nov 16, 2008
    Canada
    @Dr. Dean Marino
    The site was set up that new members have to have 5 posts before URL's are allowed through. This is indeed to prevent spammers who join to infiltrate the site with spam links. And we do have endless spammers ..

    New Members - "How many posts do I need to..."

    Once you have reached 5 posts , the URLs your links should then be ok but I will recheck with tech team to reconfirm if not.
     
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  16. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
    Hi and welcome,
    We have all been there; the first couple of months off of cigarettes I was even more cranky than normal.
    Little "nothings" become day destroyers...It was not much fun for myself and those around me.

    It sucks, but I had to Vape through it!
    It is worth it....I promise.

    You can do it!


    You have your five posts, give the server time to update (1-2 hours is typical) and you should have full member privileges.

    Welcome to the ECF and best of luck in your journey away from 48 years of cigarettes!

    Hope to see you around.
    Remember ECF is FREE to browse for members and non-members alike. (Lurkers welcome)


    Cheers
    I
     
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  17. NealBJr

    NealBJr Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 27, 2013
    Lawrenceville, Ga.
    It's funny you say that. Many years ago (20+), my mother quit smoking through a support group. It took her several years, but she did finally quit. One of the last things they told her to do, is during the last few weeks, save every cigarette butt she had and put it in an airtight jar. If she ever felt the need to smoke, pour water on those butts and smell before you light up.

    She hasn't smoked in over 20 years. :)
     
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  18. Mowgli

    Mowgli Runs with scissors Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 25, 2013
    Taxachusetts
    Governor Wretched

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. cm4cd

    cm4cd New Member

    Sep 7, 2019
    Do Nicorrettes have a tobacco flavor? No. They primarily use mint flavors. Few if any smokers in their right mind would use tobacco flavors in vaping to quit. Banning mint (and menthol) makes zero sense - and makes quitting harder. Banning candy flavors I can understand. Though I can't imagine how they can stop vapers from mixing their own.
     
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  20. Tabac man

    Tabac man Super Member

    May 24, 2019
    London
    The gum comes in 'Original' flavour which isn't mint. It's just a rough unpleasant taste. I like it. Yeah and plenty vapours quit smoking using tobacco flavours and continue to use them afterwards. Myself included.
     
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