Flavors and Lack Thereof: Bummed Beyond Words

[DaveDzRochNY]

Hello all...

Today is Day 30 since I began vaping. The 510 is my only weapon of
choice, pretty much rotating between manuals and autos. I have
absolutely no complaints about the hardware. It's all I expected, and
more.

However, my luck with juices and flavors makes me want to cry like a
lady while stamping my feet and yelling "NO NO NO NO NO!" like a petulent
toddler.

I have four flavors (24mg PG) from one vendor and 26 flavors (18mg,
PG I assume) from another. Frankly, every one I have tried so far has
been lousy... and I still have 14 more to open. Cannot wait!

I do not taste strawberry... or cherry... or watermelon... or...

Menthol is like chewing a latex balloon.

Since I am unfamilar with the "exotic" tobacco flavors, I don't know
if the French Pipe is right, or the RY4 is accurate, or if the 555 is
supposed to make my eyes fly out of their sockets and hang there like
an old man's sack. 8-o

This past Saturday, I was using "orange" all day. No "orange" taste
to speak of, really, but it was producing CLOUDS of vapor and the hit
was good. But one SINGLE drag late in the day ruined everything.
It was as if I inhaled barbed razor blades and exhaled glass shards
up my throat, into my mouth and out my nose. The taste was not of
this Earth.

Tell me... is it at all possible that I am physically NOT capable of enjoying
vapor flavor? It's really REALLY disappointing when I read threads here
on how people find this flavor orgasmic or that flavor indescribably
delicious. While I sit here and can only taste chemicals and smell fog
machine scents?

I am honestly AFRAID to try any of the remaining flavors. Exhaling fish
hooks soaked in gasoline is not my idea of a good time.

ANY words of hope and/or encouragement will be appreciated.

Thank you for reading!
Dave in Rochester, NY

PS: Food, fruit, vegetables, beverages ALL taste fine, and always have.
I would be able to identify anything if fed it while blindfolded. So it's
not my general "overall" everyday sense of smell or taste that's out of whack
here. Just FYI.

 

[Zrane]

I ordered sample sets froom 4 different companies before I found the ones I liked. Don't expect it to be exactly like whatever its going for(though the banana flavor I got tasted just like Banana laffy taffy, and that was awesome), but find what works for you.

Everyone's different. I love the JC Peach, and my boss thinks its horrible.

Also, consider changing atomizers. I think its the atty that occasionally produces that horrible flavor, and their performance can affect things. Right now, all I have is a resurected atty(waiting on a shipment!) and everything tastes weak and washed out.

 

[Surf Monkey]

A few comments.

First, I'd experiment with VG fluids. Some people just don't like the taste of PG (I'm one of them.) VG makes WAY more vapor and I think it's more neutral than PG so you get a cleaner flavor hit.

Second, consider trying ECOpure. You can get it at a number of places in the UK and at InnoVapor.com in the US. I love that stuff. It's very subtle in flavor, with no sweetness whatsoever. It's a lot more like real smoke than practically anything else I've tried. Order a 15ml bottle of the Rick flavor and try it out. I think, based on what you're saying, that you might like it.

Finally, as to that bad hit, it happens for a number of reasons. Mainly it seems to happen when your cart is too dry or you have some polly fibers stick to your atomizer. Make sure and top off the cart when it stops producing optimal vapor or you get a hint of the jagged taste. Also visually check the atomizer bridge and if there are any polly filaments stuck to it, pull them out with a pair of tweezers.

 

[DaveDzRochNY]

I ordered sample sets froom 4 different companies before I found the ones I liked.

Also, consider changing atomizers.

The 26 flavors I ordered from one vendor was their at-the-time "sampler"
size (20ml). They have since then began to offer the 5ml size. Figures,
right?

Immediately after the Orange Nightmare, I did change the atty to a brand
new one and slapped on a "default tobacco" cartridge.

The primer taste is ambrosia. At least I can TASTE it. I wonder if it's
available in bottled form?

 

[Surf Monkey]

Oh, and another thing to consider is that traditional smoking wreaks havoc on your taste sense. It can take four to six weeks of not smoking to bring it back. You may be having problems because your taste buds are still shell shocked from all that smoke.

 

[xKrazYx]

Some people's taste buds are just weaker than others. If you smoked for a long time before you started vaping, you gotta give it some time for them to heal up. I'm the same way (I wasn't a smoker but my taste buds are weak).

 

[applefr3ak]

Honestly... it sounds like u ran your cart dry... when your atomizer gets dry... esp on a 510.. it will taste like ^#@@ try dripping

Jason

 

[Elendil]

Try getting some unflavored juice and adding your own flavor. I do this with butterscotch and caramel (2 of my favorites). I get the flavors from loranns and I can make it as strong as I want or need.

You can always sell your stuff in the classified and swap forum. People will line up to buy it. you will lose some of your invesment, but al least you wouldn't be out all of it.

 

[EssEss]

Hi Dave,

First of all I have to say that your post cracked me up! Sorry you're running into trouble though.

Have you tried making your own flavors? I have some trouble tasting the flavor that some of the liquids are supposed to be. I would suggest getting some LorAnn flavorings that match the flavors you have now and add a drop or two to a few ml's (1 or 2) of liquid and boost up the flavor. You can also mix a few flavorings and get something different. For example I added banana and chocolate to some regular tobacco juice and now have something very close to a frozen banana. Yummy

 

[DaveDzRochNY]

@Surf Monkey and xKrazYx... True true re: sense of taste after years of smoking.
I'll have these bottles for a LONG time, so it remains to be seen if the ol' tongue
starts working to its optimal capacity.

@Surf Monkey and applefr3ak... I can guarantee that the cart was not dry. I
top-off very frequently. Cannot speak to the stray filler thread as my eyes were
watering at that moment.

@Elendil and EssEss... Yes. I am planning to try DIY, and buying some flavorings to
boost up ones I already have. How would I manage to boost "French Pipe"? The
closest thing I can find for that one is here: Funny Pranks with Liquid ....

 

[let_there_be_vaping]

I ordered sample sets froom 4 different companies before I found the ones I liked. Don't expect it to be exactly like whatever its going for(though the banana flavor I got tasted just like Banana laffy taffy, and that was awesome), but find what works for you.

Banana Laffy Taffy!?!

I would LUV that! Where'd ya get it from?

Thanks!

(sorry for the temporary thread hijack)

 

[EssEss]

@Elendil and EssEss... Yes. I am planning to try DIY, and buying some flavorings to
boost up ones I already have. How would I manage to boost "French Pipe"? The
closest thing I can find for that one is here: Funny Pranks with Liquid ....[/quote]

I'm not a big fan of the tobacco flavors (as I found out after my 1st order) so I know nothing about French Pipe. I did some reading here and it seems to have a very strong flavor! 8-o If you don't want to cut the nicotine level down with PG or VG how about adding something like caramel flavoring? Hopefully someone else who has actually tried it will be able to help more. It seems to be an acquired taste

 

[Zofryer]

Oh, and another thing to consider is that traditional smoking wreaks havoc on your taste sense. It can take four to six weeks of not smoking to bring it back. You may be having problems because your taste buds are still shell shocked from all that smoke.

I had this happen as early as the two week point. That, and my "favorite" has been a moving target since day one. Right now I can't pick between French Pipe, Chocolate, Cream, Apple, or Vanilla. And I HATED French Pipe the first few times I tried it the first week. Now I can't get enough of it. Also, I'll echo the atomizer thing. Some flavors explode in the 510 atty's (ry4 for example), but most taste better in the 801 for me. And even there, some taste better in classic 801's, but most seem to taste better in be112 801's. The amount of nicotine seems to effect the flavor for me too. I can't stand high-nic ry4. Lots of variables.

 

[Myth Sammich]

.....But one SINGLE drag late in the day ruined everything.
It was as if I inhaled barbed razor blades and exhaled glass shards
up my throat, into my mouth and out my nose. The taste was not of
this Earth.

Well I have had this happen too. It's my firm belief that it only happened because I was getting vape-happy. With moderation, I haven't been able to make it happen again. Just my 3 1/3 cents.

 

[Robert]

Try dripping! Dripping will give you a better taste! The bad taste is from the carts being a day old. I don't think carts last long. Attention Modders you need to try and fix this problem.

 

[Zrane]

Banana Laffy Taffy!?!

I would LUV that! Where'd ya get it from?

Thanks!

(sorry for the temporary thread hijack)

The Smokeless Shop

Their orange is very good, too. The peach isn't as good as the JC, in my opinion.

/rerail

 

[let_there_be_vaping]

The Smokeless Shop

Their orange is very good, too. The peach isn't as good as the JC, in my opinion.

/rerail

Thanks!

Have them bookmarked as I'll have to wait till they get some in the 30ml size. Just can't seem to justify $16.00, including shipping, for 10ml. bummer

 

[breakfastchef]

To the OP...Some folks just plain do not like the taste of vapor. Try selling off what you are not using to recoup some of your expenditure and keep on experimenting. I personally like Johnson Creek and Totally Wicked juices, but am not overly fond of DIY stuff made with LorAnn's flavorings.

As to your exhale of razor blades, this happens when the atomizer wick is running dry or, perhaps, if a thread of the cartridge filler touches the heating coil.

Last comment is to try vaping a no flavor e-liquid.

 

[BlueSun]

I, too, am rather disappointed with the flavours I've tried so far. They're very weak and leave hardly any aftertaste. I have a 401, which is supposed to be a good device for taste, and a bunch of Johnson Creek carts and a bottle of Tennessee Cured liquid. I started off with the peach, and the taste was underwhelming - more like placing a dash of sugar on the tip of my tongue. I could hardly taste it after a while. I then moved to TC, and it really doesn't taste anything like tobacco. There's something sorta smoke-like about it, I guess, but it's very weak and, like the Peach, leaves a sugary taste on my tongue.

Overall, so far these flavours are underwhelming. I've also tried a generic disposable cigar and had the same issue. Very weak taste. The vapour had an okay scent, though.

Is this just a problem of mixing flavouring with the propylene glycol, or is it the atomizer technology? And is it possible that flavouring will improve as manufacturers tweak and improve the devices and liquid? I know these are early days, so I'm hoping.

 

[Christina]

FWIW, I have had a great experience with Juicy Liquids. They sell flavor packs which included unflavored liquid, flavoring, a pipette, and a glass vial for trying before committing. That way you can add as much or little flavoring as you want. The banana nut is really good. I've also heard their caramel crisp is especially good.

I've heard really good things about Capella Flavored Drops. I know there are a few threads around here about them. I just placed my first order with them today and purchased some unflavored nicotine liquid from Juicy Liquid.