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Flavors that taste good at Zero Nicotine

Discussion in 'General E-Liquid Discussion' started by drysprocket, Jan 31, 2018.

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  1. drysprocket

    drysprocket Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 11, 2014
    Los Angeles
    I have to quit Nic before surgery in a few months, and I want to get started ahead of time in finding some flavors that actually still taste good at Zero Nic. I figure my usual flavors will be hard to transition down to since I know them so well, so the plan- find some new flavors that somehow work at zero.

    Ideally, I'd love to find a tobacco or custard that still gives a kick somehow, but maybe that's aiming too high. Anyone have success at finding one?
     
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  2. dangkhoa02106

    dangkhoa02106 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 11, 2013
    VIET NAM
    I tried to cut down nicotine in my juice and right now my juice is at zero nicotine. I always add ethyl maltol to all my DIY juice so the flavor will not weird. By the way, I also add cool and fresh effected solutions such as menthol, peppermint or koolada into my juice so I can feel like a throat hit.
    Ethyl Maltol acts as a buffer to your juices.
     
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  3. Richard Winter

    Richard Winter Senior Member

    Mar 30, 2018
    United Kingdom
    I mix my own juices at either zero nicotine, 3mg or 6mg depending on the tank im using or my mood. There is very little change in the flavour if its zero free nicotine or 3mg strength. Try mixing one at zero, you might be surprised.
     
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  4. LyLyV

    LyLyV Senior Member

    Feb 21, 2018
    Earth (most days)
    Curious - why do you have to quit nic before surgery? I could understand smoking tobacco (cigs), but nicotine? Who is going to know?
     
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  5. classwife

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    Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor.
    It can interfere with the healing process.
     
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  6. LyLyV

    LyLyV Senior Member

    Feb 21, 2018
    Earth (most days)
    Ah - I see. ...I wonder how long it takes to leave your system...
     
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  7. Richard Winter

    Richard Winter Senior Member

    Mar 30, 2018
    United Kingdom
    Thanks for the info, i didnt know that.
     
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  8. drysprocket

    drysprocket Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 11, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Ya, I had no idea just how bad nicotine alone is before surgery, but my doc freaked out on me and said that I have to be 60 days clean from it. After some reading up on it, it sounds like it can cause some pretty serious side effects.

    And just to follow up on the initial posting, I quit and it wasn't that hard. Takes awhile to adjust to flavors, and I gained 10lbs like it's nothing. That whole metabolism changing thing is no joke. I didn't change my diet and it came on quick.

    But ya, flavors still work, and I enjoy vaping still...just no longer a slave to nic. I do recommend getting some new flavors to do it- it's tougher when you know a flavor well and have to adjust.
     
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  9. LyLyV

    LyLyV Senior Member

    Feb 21, 2018
    Earth (most days)
    60 days!?! Wow! :shock:
     
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  10. Just Me

    Just Me Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 4, 2010
    Wow, I thought nicotine left the system in 72 hours! I went to zero nic in 2016 on a Sunday before my back surgery on a Wednesday, so I guess I didn't do the job right. :blink:
     
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  11. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    I've heard various quotes about various things. Nicotine does leave your system rather quickly, but depending on the length and severity of the surgery, doctors will recommend different things. I will say, that during my various oral surgeries, well every single "handout" on self care after the surgery indicated that you should stop smoking after the surgery. When I dug a little deeper, there were actually oral surgery experts saying that quitting nicotine and smoking should be done up to six months before those surgeries, with varying degrees of urgency. They actually did appear to do some research, and most folks who quit before hand have better outcomes. Their consensus was, however, that one wanted one's gums and mouth to be in good shape before the surgery, not just afterward, and that increased the risk of implants failing. I did have an implant fail, but my oral surgeon was nice enough to replace it for free (still hurt a whole bunch, however).

    I wish I'd known that info going in, but yes, various doctors and surgeons are going to recommend different things.

    I would agree on trying some "new to you" juices without nicotine, so you aren't associating them with a "nicotine buzz" although you may find some of your regular flavors from day to day don't have a huge change in flavor without nicotine (a lot of that will depend on how much and what type of nicotine you used). If you enjoy a throat hit, I might also look at slightly higher PG juices and possible an additive named "Flash" that's been mentioned and I think it also can increase the sensation of "throat hit." So may menthol, etc.

    Best of luck, with both the surgery and your 0 nic juices.

    Anna
     
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  12. cappy24

    cappy24 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 3, 2012
    remsenburg new york
    i developed a blood disorder from nicotine which is the main reason i quit smoking(tbh)...nicotine caused my blood to thicken...i felt tired sluggish and just not right...i had to have two pints of blood taken from me every two weeks to thin out my blood...i did that for a month and then quit smoking...after two weeks my blood was back to normal....i vape 0 nic...i tried 3mg nicotine but still had the same bad reaction...
     
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  13. Toronnah

    Toronnah Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 10, 2012
    Canada
    IMO, nicotine is not a flavor enhancer. The absence of which should not negatively impact flavor.
     
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  14. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    IDK, I wouldn't call it a flavor enhancer exactly, but it does contribute to what is in a mix. I'd have to think that 0 nic flavors, yes, they're going to taste fairly similar, but some nic does have flavor and I think the overall experience is going to be different, depending on what you are looking for, including throat hit or not and etc. I think nic "does things" to a mix, I'm just not sure what exactly.

    The place where I taste juice offers it with no nic, or a fairly high nic percentage. When I've tasted them, although they taste "similar" there is certainly something nic is "doing" as you mix it and I'd imagine that differs between flavorings.

    Anna
     
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