Didn't want to clutter up the nice neat threads with off topic stuff. just wanted to say how glad I am to have some people who live in this state to talk to!! Hubby's family are fro Ca. and they think we are weird to want to live here. Like they can talk, we have hurricanes, tornados and big bugs. They have santa Anna winds, mucho wildfires and earthquakes! This morning the winds and lightning were so bad that my neighbor lost her pump house building..it's draped over her porch. her maple tree split in half and flattened the fence between out houses. That was one bad thunder boomer. Who else here went through the hurricanes of 04? LOL I sound like an old codger..remember the 'canes of ought 4? We got all 4 of them!