ok here is the deal on crystal, the original factory is gone, but we were able to get the recipe from them so another factory can replicate it, the first 5 samples were not close enough, so months later they sent me 20 new versions, i have them here but ive been handling personal issues in my life, i promise to test them in the next 3 days and pick the closest one ,3 of them that i tested 2 weeks ago seemed to be very very close so i want to test the rest then make a decision and i will update you all here.