Big break through Milk and Honey lovers!
Sorry it took me this long to get back to everyone.
When I first got my shipment in, I mixed dpgfla's recipe except for the Acetl Pyrazine because somehow I forgot it in my first order! So I used the same % of hazelnut (TFA) as as substitute. Anyway, I came to the same conclusion that the caramel or brown sugar was too overpowering. I've been letting that batch steep since and will update on it shortly.
While waiting for my second order of ingredients to come in, I attempted OP's recipe but with 2.5% Peanut Butter and 7% Graham Cracker clear.
I'm very sure that the honey taste in Cosmic Fog's original is from Graham Cracker and not caramel or brown sugar.
However, OP's recipe is close but missing something specific to complete the taste. Luckily my second order came in and I have the Acetl Pyrazine I need, as that is definitely that missing taste.
I believe I have a great starting place to finalize this clone!
My best batch I've been vaping all day is:
I took the first batch out of the crock pot this morning and tested it for the first time after an overnight speed steep. It was VERY close. Seemed a little too sweet at first. By tonight, though, the Acetl Pyrazine is coming across too strong and buttery. I'm new to DIY and perhaps I'm not getting an accurate .07 ml (I'm making 10 ml samples). Perhaps the extra in my needle and syringe tip added too much extra. It seemed just right this morning, but it's becoming unsatisfying at this point as it's lost its creamyness.
Also, the banana cream probably needs to be upped a bit as I am not tasting it at all at that %. With my crock pot speed steep method, I may be steeping right past its flavor.
Few more thoughts:
I have not tried, but plan, to test Bavarian Cream (TFA), Toasted Marshmallow (TFA), and Sugar Cookie v2 (CAP) as others have had them in their batches, in this "beta" stage of the clone.
I'm also unsure about the % on marshmallow. Marshmallow is my favorite flavor in M&H so I feel like I'm biased toward that flavor.
Who else is working on this?! Reply and let us know!
Sorry it took me this long to get back to everyone.
When I first got my shipment in, I mixed dpgfla's recipe except for the Acetl Pyrazine because somehow I forgot it in my first order! So I used the same % of hazelnut (TFA) as as substitute. Anyway, I came to the same conclusion that the caramel or brown sugar was too overpowering. I've been letting that batch steep since and will update on it shortly.
While waiting for my second order of ingredients to come in, I attempted OP's recipe but with 2.5% Peanut Butter and 7% Graham Cracker clear.
I'm very sure that the honey taste in Cosmic Fog's original is from Graham Cracker and not caramel or brown sugar.
However, OP's recipe is close but missing something specific to complete the taste. Luckily my second order came in and I have the Acetl Pyrazine I need, as that is definitely that missing taste.
I believe I have a great starting place to finalize this clone!
My best batch I've been vaping all day is:
50/50 PG/VG (Because that's what CM makes theirs at)
Peanut Butter (TFA) 2.75%
Graham Cracker clear (TFA) 5%
Marshmallow (TFA) 5%
Vanilla Custard (CAP) 2%
Vanilla Swirl (TFA) 2%
Banana Cream (TFA) .5%
Acetl Pyrazine (TFA) .7%
I took the first batch out of the crock pot this morning and tested it for the first time after an overnight speed steep. It was VERY close. Seemed a little too sweet at first. By tonight, though, the Acetl Pyrazine is coming across too strong and buttery. I'm new to DIY and perhaps I'm not getting an accurate .07 ml (I'm making 10 ml samples). Perhaps the extra in my needle and syringe tip added too much extra. It seemed just right this morning, but it's becoming unsatisfying at this point as it's lost its creamyness.
Also, the banana cream probably needs to be upped a bit as I am not tasting it at all at that %. With my crock pot speed steep method, I may be steeping right past its flavor.
Few more thoughts:
I have not tried, but plan, to test Bavarian Cream (TFA), Toasted Marshmallow (TFA), and Sugar Cookie v2 (CAP) as others have had them in their batches, in this "beta" stage of the clone.
I'm also unsure about the % on marshmallow. Marshmallow is my favorite flavor in M&H so I feel like I'm biased toward that flavor.
Who else is working on this?! Reply and let us know!