For All You Milk N Honey Fans
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Has anyone tried EM in their mix? Might that smooth and round out or is the Marshmallow doing that already?
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Well I went ahead and added 3 small drops to my 10 ml batch and I am pleased with the effect. A tad too cotton candy tasting but that may mellow as it steeps longer.
I imagine it will take finding the balance between marshmallow and EM to get the right result, but I think EM is on the right track.
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Well I went ahead and added 3 small drops to my 10 ml batch and I am pleased with the effect. A tad too cotton candy tasting but that may mellow as it steeps longer.
I imagine it will take finding the balance between marshmallow and EM to get the right result, but I think EM is on the right track.
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Took a shot in the dark here based on what you guys have done and what I have tasted (and smelled). Wanted to try a different vanilla, and wanted a distinct sweet type flavor (not sweetness, but a sweet honey type flavor, and I don't have honey, thus the butterscotch).
Peanut Butter (TFA) - 1.5%
Graham Cracker Clear (TFA) - 4%
Banana Cream (LA) - 2%
Marshmallow (Cap) - 1.5%
Acetyl Pyrazine (TFA) - .7%
Vanilla Classic (FA) - 1%
Vanilla Custard V2 (Cap) - 1%
Sugar Cookie (Cap) - 1.5%
Toasted Marshmallow (TFA) - 1%
Butterscotch (FA) - 1%
Tasting it right after, I think it is pretty close. The banana could come down a bit, maybe 1.5-1.75% (I think one of you guys tried 1.5% before, but mine is LA). I wouldn't expect anyone to just happen to have all these random ingredients. I'll check back after it has had some time to steep.
Regarding EM - I think the marsh takes care of that, but I haven't tried it with
Also, I'm going to post this somewhere else and try and get some feedback.
Edit 2: Tried some M&H right on top of this and M&H has a slight "spicy" note that this doesn't. I don't know what it could be...
Edit 3: I don't think the toasted marshmallow fits. I'll drop it out next time and raise the regular back up
Peanut Butter (TFA) - 1.5%
Graham Cracker Clear (TFA) - 4%
Banana Cream (LA) - 2%
Marshmallow (Cap) - 1.5%
Acetyl Pyrazine (TFA) - .7%
Vanilla Classic (FA) - 1%
Vanilla Custard V2 (Cap) - 1%
Sugar Cookie (Cap) - 1.5%
Toasted Marshmallow (TFA) - 1%
Butterscotch (FA) - 1%
Tasting it right after, I think it is pretty close. The banana could come down a bit, maybe 1.5-1.75% (I think one of you guys tried 1.5% before, but mine is LA). I wouldn't expect anyone to just happen to have all these random ingredients. I'll check back after it has had some time to steep.
Regarding EM - I think the marsh takes care of that, but I haven't tried it with
Also, I'm going to post this somewhere else and try and get some feedback.
Edit 2: Tried some M&H right on top of this and M&H has a slight "spicy" note that this doesn't. I don't know what it could be...
Edit 3: I don't think the toasted marshmallow fits. I'll drop it out next time and raise the regular back up
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I've been vaping on the following recipe for a couple of weeks now. It's not M and H but it is a good alternative... and easy..
TFA Peanut Butter 3.5% (without letting it steep the pb isn't at all overpowering)
TFA Banana Cream 2% - I'm not a fan of bananas or banana flavored candy but I do love this banana cream
Cap Sugar Cookie V2 3.5%
TFA Marshmallow 1.5%
Acetl P - 1 drop per 5 ml, give or take. I made 14 ml at 50/50 and added 4 drops of Acetl P
TFA Peanut Butter 3.5% (without letting it steep the pb isn't at all overpowering)
TFA Banana Cream 2% - I'm not a fan of bananas or banana flavored candy but I do love this banana cream
Cap Sugar Cookie V2 3.5%
TFA Marshmallow 1.5%
Acetl P - 1 drop per 5 ml, give or take. I made 14 ml at 50/50 and added 4 drops of Acetl P
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Unfortunately none of my local shops had any Cosmic Fog Milk and Honey left, so I'll have to wait until their next shipment and hopefully get one before someone buys them out again!
In the mean time I'm playing around with different levels of AP, EM and Marshmallow (has anyone any experience with CAP Marshmallow vs TFA?).
In the mean time I'm playing around with different levels of AP, EM and Marshmallow (has anyone any experience with CAP Marshmallow vs TFA?).
I have used Cap and LA, but I have some TFA coming soon. I'll check it out and maybe I'll remember to post back.
I've been using malted milk in a different (fruity) recipe and there's a distinct taste on exhale that reminds me of the exhaled nuttiness that milk and honey has. I'm going to try a batch tonight with malted milk and see if that is, in fact, in the mix.
I am trying to get the base down before adding banana b/c it is so prominent for me. Just mixed up something w/ some FA I got in:
TFA Graham Cracker clear 7%
TFA Peanut Butter 1%
AP .5%
TFA Marshmallow 3%
FA Honey .25%
FA Marzipan .5%
FA Almond .25%
FA Fresh Cream 1%
I'd love to tell you how it tastes, but all I taste is HONEY! Even at .25%. I'll try again without the honey and post back.
TFA Graham Cracker clear 7%
TFA Peanut Butter 1%
AP .5%
TFA Marshmallow 3%
FA Honey .25%
FA Marzipan .5%
FA Almond .25%
FA Fresh Cream 1%
I'd love to tell you how it tastes, but all I taste is HONEY! Even at .25%. I'll try again without the honey and post back.
Removed the Honey, left everything else the same. It is pretty good, but I'm beginning to question the PB
Question peanut butter as an ingredient all together or just your percentage?
I tried 2% malted milk last night. Stepped it in a crock pot over night but it still needs a little time steeping as well. Accidentally added two drops of EM, so that's throwing it off a bit, but I think I'm on to something with the malted milk. Maybe at 1.5 or 1%
Unfortunately I had a bottle that was the closest tasting to milk and honey but it was in my "combination of left over sample batches" bottle that I fill up to vape on between batches. So there's no telling what the ratios are.
I tried 2% malted milk last night. Stepped it in a crock pot over night but it still needs a little time steeping as well. Accidentally added two drops of EM, so that's throwing it off a bit, but I think I'm on to something with the malted milk. Maybe at 1.5 or 1%
Unfortunately I had a bottle that was the closest tasting to milk and honey but it was in my "combination of left over sample batches" bottle that I fill up to vape on between batches. So there's no telling what the ratios are.
I question the PB b/c trying my concoctions back to back with the real deal, the stuff I make is too creamy and thick feeling. I am going to make 2 batches, one dropping the PB out, and one dropping the marshmallow way down or out. I am not sure which one I am getting the thickness from; it may be the marshmallow. I haven't tried malted milk, but the fresh cream I tried really seems to fit as well. Maybe they are kind of similar flavors. I think the marzipan adds a lot. It takes care of the honey taste and gets a little nuttiness in there as well.
Dr, no updates yet, I started back classes and haven't had much time to play with it. I'll try and mix something up soon and post back. PM me your address and nic and I'll send you a bottle
Most recent try:
Marshmallow (TFA) 3.0
Almond (FA) 0.25
Marzipan (FA) 0.25
Peanut Butter (TFA) 1.0
Fresh Cream (FA) 1.0
Graham Cracker (Cap) 3.0
Vanilla Swirl (TFA) 2.0
Sweet Cream (TFA) 1.0
Banana Cream (LA) 1.5
Honey Dilution 10% (FA) 0.7
Tastes good right after mixing, I am not sure how close though. Honey might be a little too high. I'll post back after I try M&H again.
EDIT: although it tastes good, it is still missing something (some kind of spice note). Someone told me Cap graham cracker has a spicy note to it, so I'll knock the TFA GCC out and up the Cap. Probably drop out the Marz and Almond too, they are good, but it adds to much. I have a feeling M&H is probably a relatively simple recipe
Also, I think it uses a different marshmallow flavoring (not TFA, LA, or Cap), maybe FA, but I do not have any. Maybe someone else that does can give it a shot
Day later - not good. I don't know what changed
Marshmallow (TFA) 3.0
Almond (FA) 0.25
Marzipan (FA) 0.25
Peanut Butter (TFA) 1.0
Fresh Cream (FA) 1.0
Graham Cracker (Cap) 3.0
Vanilla Swirl (TFA) 2.0
Sweet Cream (TFA) 1.0
Banana Cream (LA) 1.5
Honey Dilution 10% (FA) 0.7
Tastes good right after mixing, I am not sure how close though. Honey might be a little too high. I'll post back after I try M&H again.
EDIT: although it tastes good, it is still missing something (some kind of spice note). Someone told me Cap graham cracker has a spicy note to it, so I'll knock the TFA GCC out and up the Cap. Probably drop out the Marz and Almond too, they are good, but it adds to much. I have a feeling M&H is probably a relatively simple recipe
Also, I think it uses a different marshmallow flavoring (not TFA, LA, or Cap), maybe FA, but I do not have any. Maybe someone else that does can give it a shot
Day later - not good. I don't know what changed
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I, too; will be ordering my first DIY kit via, One Stop DIY Shop. I love CF's Milk & Honey. I go through a 30ml bottle in a couple days! So I really need to save
and start DIY my e-juice. This will be my first experiment. Good luck!Got really lucky and a buddy of mine had a few mls left of M&H he let me try.
Nicobeak was right, the stuff we're mixing in this thread is way too "dense"
The flavours in M&H are really light and subtle.
I could taste the banana cream as a slight undertone to the rest of the flavours.
Only thing I'm confident in at this point is the banana cream and peanut butter and some sort of marshmallow or smooth.
Maybe it is a much simpler recipe than we're making it out to be.
Nicobeak was right, the stuff we're mixing in this thread is way too "dense"
The flavours in M&H are really light and subtle.
I could taste the banana cream as a slight undertone to the rest of the flavours.
Only thing I'm confident in at this point is the banana cream and peanut butter and some sort of marshmallow or smooth.
Maybe it is a much simpler recipe than we're making it out to be.
Just to throw this out there, because I haven't tried any of these mixes yet (plan to do so tomorrow..making a HUGE amount of juice tomorrow thanks to friends all running out at the same time)..
Something I have discovered in my travels is that hazelnut and caramel together taste very similar to a milder, softer version of peanut butter as compared to the actual PB from TFA and Cap. Something to think on. I'm going to try your latest posted version tomorrow though, because I want to see how it is with the actual peanut butter and go from there
I have a bottle of CF's M&H that I swiped from my mom, so I have some on hand for comparison. I also have honey from Inawera and I just wonder if a tiny percentage of that might work as well. Gonna try it.
Something I have discovered in my travels is that hazelnut and caramel together taste very similar to a milder, softer version of peanut butter as compared to the actual PB from TFA and Cap. Something to think on. I'm going to try your latest posted version tomorrow though, because I want to see how it is with the actual peanut butter and go from there
I have a bottle of CF's M&H that I swiped from my mom, so I have some on hand for comparison. I also have honey from Inawera and I just wonder if a tiny percentage of that might work as well. Gonna try it./u/fizzmustard suggested that the AP + TFA banana cream combo really nailed the PB taste in M&H. I only have LA banana cream, but I ordered some TFA to try it out. I will post back after I get a chance to try it.
Link to the new thread that DrLucky set up:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/649881-cloning-milk-honey.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/649881-cloning-milk-honey.html
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