French researchers to give nicotine patches to coronavirus patients

[Oregon Linda]

Well well well.

"French researchers to give nicotine patches to coronavirus patients and frontline workers after lower rates of infection were found among smokers."
French researchers plan to give nicotine patches to coronavirus patients and frontline workers | Daily Mail Online

 

[CMD-Ky]

Well well well.

"French researchers to give nicotine patches to coronavirus patients and frontline workers after lower rates of infection were found among smokers."
French researchers plan to give nicotine patches to coronavirus patients and frontline workers | Daily Mail Online

In five years we will find out if it works and if it does, then it will be safe to open the economy.

 

[evan le'garde]

Coronavirus: Nicotine patches to be tested on patients after study suggests smokers less likely to catch COVID-19

The actual reason for this seems to be that non smokers stay away from smokers by at least 2 metres because they stink. It's funny because it's true. But seriously, it probably is why those who smoke don't get the lergies. They smell like hoboes.

 

[Dudeus Nordicus]

"French researchers to give nicotine patches to coronavirus patients and frontline workers after lower rates of infection were found among smokers."
French researchers plan to give nicotine patches to coronavirus patients and frontline workers | Daily Mail Online

There are also more credible sources than Daily Mail, but nevertheless. Here's one.

(Wikipedia: The Daily Mail has been widely criticised for its unreliability, as well as printing of sensationalist and inaccurate scare stories of science and medical research and for copyright violations. It is treated as unreliable as a source for articles in Wikipedia)

It would be interesting if it is really was nicotine, and pure nicotine at that, that aided in fending off the viral infection.

There were studies (US veterans IIRC) showing that tobacco use delayed the onset of dementia. With tobacco having other proven anti-life qualities (e.g. kills half of users...) it wouldn't be ethical to start studies with it specifically in the mix, but if the neuroprotective effects were due to nicotine alone it could be quite interesting for the over-70 population.

Imagine if vapers, or even smokers (those pariahs) were unwittingly helpful in cutting the chains of viral Covid-19 infection?

 

[Wow1420]

That's not the first time I've seen the theory that Nicotine dampens the cytokine storm, which, they say, is what kills people.

vape on!

 

[Ryedan]

This is very interesting and I've seen a couple of mentions of this on the net in the last week (or 2 ... days seem to be turning into weeks for me, stuck at home here ). Searching 'nicotinic hypothesis for Covid-19' results in numerous hits that I explored a bit just now and it seems to me this theory should be investigated more thoroughly. However, I've been vaping more nic than I usually do lately and I'm not going to reduce it for a while.

 

[Katya]

This is very interesting and I've seen a couple of mentions of this on the net in the last week (or 2 ... days seem to be turning into weeks for me, stuck at home here ). Searching 'nicotinic hypothesis for Covid-19' results in numerous hits that I explored a bit just now and it seems to me this theory should be investigated more thoroughly. However, I've been vaping more nic than I usually do lately and I'm not going to reduce it for a while.

I think Dr. Farsalinos was the first one to observe that nicotine may be protective against COVID-19. I love him.

Smoking, vaping and hospitalization for COVID-19 - Article (Preprint v13) | Qeios

 

[Ryedan]

I think Dr. Farsalinos was the first one to observe that nicotine may be protective against COVID-19. I love him.

Smoking, vaping and hospitalization for COVID-19 - Article (Preprint v13) | Qeios

Hi Katya, long time no see. Hope you and yours are doing well

Dr. Farsalinos has always been a great source of information for me and I really appreciate him as well. I had not seen his article until I read your post, thank you very much for that

 

[Haktuspit]

Does anyone have any data on what the rate of Covid positives that were smokers/vapers rates are in the USA? I've tried Googling but you all know how data in this country is. One report will say 10% of all Covid patients are smokers the other will say 1%... or as in my case they all just say that smoking will increase your odds without any data whatsoever.

 

[mcduffy]

From link in the OP:

French researchers plan to give nicotine patches to coronavirus patients and frontline workers | Daily Mail Online

Early data from America's Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) showed that just 1.3 per cent of people diagnosed with COVID-19 were classified as smokers.

From a sample of 7,162 of the nation's earliest patients, just 96 were 'current smokers'. Just 22 out of 1,037 patients in hospital were smokers, along with five out of 457 in intensive care, according to the data.

This contrasts sharply with the CDC's statistics that show 14 per cent of all Americans regularly smoke cigarettes.

It is not clear whether there is a link between smoking and a lower risk of catching or falling ill with coronavirus, or whether recording of who smokes and who doesn't isn't up to scratch.

A study by New York University found that just five per cent of 4,103 coronavirus hospital patients in the city admitted to being smokers.

This was far lower than the 15.5 per cent of smokers in the population there.

The same proportion of smokers were found in COVID-19 patients who did not need hospitalisation, suggesting they were less likely to catch the virus or were not being accurately recorded.

The New York study is not the first to find a low number of smokers in COVID-19 hospital admissions.

 

[Haktuspit]

Thanks I thought I had already read the article but I had just read a similar article. All those numbers look great for us!

 

[Katya]

Hi Katya, long time no see. Hope you and yours are doing well

Likewise. We're OK, but getting seriously restless. And we need haircuts.

Back on topic:

COVID-19 fact check: Caution urged on study about virus, smoking

Nicotine patch test on Covid patients, healthcare workers to see if smokers are 'protected'

 

[Javichu]

Likewise. We're OK, but getting seriously restless. And we need haircuts.

Back on topic:

COVID-19 fact check: Caution urged on study about virus, smoking

Nicotine patch test on Covid patients, healthcare workers to see if smokers are 'protected'

Ditto about the haircut,someone stopped me in the street today and they asked me for an autograph.
They thought i was this dude right here:

Spoiler: Unga Bunga

And back to the topic at hand.
In Spain a friend of mine studies in the University of Navarra,she is in the Pneumology Department.

From an email she sent me (she knows i vape) they are close to starting an independent study about the difference between a smoker and a vaper when it comes to Corona.

Doctors in charge are getting ready to start soon,for now they getting together the best students so they can do the ''grunt'' work,that is why my friend knows about it,she is really smart.

 

[Ryedan]

Likewise. We're OK, but getting seriously restless. And we need haircuts.

Good to hear you guys are ok

On the hair cut thingy, I've been cutting my own hair for years. My wife gives me a touch up sometimes just to make sure things don't get snarly at the back. Of course, it really helps that I do a crew cut. My Oster Fastfeed makes that really easy, not to mention it paid for itself in months

Back on topic:

COVID-19 fact check: Caution urged on study about virus, smoking

Nicotine patch test on Covid patients, healthcare workers to see if smokers are 'protected'

Ya, a lot of 'may' be bad, 'could' be bad, 'needs more research' and 'smoking is bad'. I'm going to stick with vaping nic for now. Considering the risk associated with that and the Covid-19 stats coming to light now, I don't think there's much to lose

 

[Ryedan]

And back to the topic at hand.
In Spain a friend of mine studies in the University of Navarra,she is in the Pneumology Department.

From an email she sent me (she knows i vape) they are close to starting an independent study about the difference between a smoker and a vaper when it comes to Corona.

Doctors in charge are getting ready to start soon,for now they getting together the best students so they can do the ''grunt'' work,that is why my friend knows about it,she is really smart.

That sounds great. Please let us know what they discover!

 

[stols001]

There are a ton of smokers in France, I'm not so sure the hobo theory holds water.

There are also HOSTS of differences between smoking/vaping/the patch.

What we may know at the end of this is what we know at the start: nicotine can be addicting to some people.

IDK we will learn SOMETHING I guess.

Anna

 

[Territoo]

My theory was you could slap a patch on your skin or slap a piece of duct tape on and get the same effect. Duct tape is a lot cheaper.

 

[Haktuspit]

On the hair cut thingy, I've been cutting my own hair for years. My wife gives me a touch up sometimes just to make sure things don't get snarly at the back. Of course, it really helps that I do a crew cut. My Oster Fastfeed makes that really easy, not to mention it paid for itself in months

Same, and the same brand of clippers too! Finally ponied up and paid for the good pair and have been rewarded with three years of haircuts for I think $70. Was cutting with the metal clip extended all the way but that broke and instead of fixing it or using a clip I just started cutting at 00. Which I actually prefer now. Might give it an upgrade and order a new blade for it, I'm surprised this one has lasted this long!

Back on topic... I almost bought nic patches the other day. My thought process is that if I do get Covid I want to have them on hand so I can quit vaping for a couple weeks. I wouldn't want to be vaping WITH the virus. Was almost surprised the shelves to be fully stocked but that's Americans. Nic could be proven to be a 100% cure for Covid and no one would believe your bat #$%@ crazy conspiracy... until they said it on the MSM networks they all claim not to trust.