I placed an order at both and will provide a review once I receive the order (mostly tobacco flavors only), but can someone explain the process of steeping liquid? Is this necessary? I hear some people do and some don't.
FSUSA and VS and STEEPING
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I think the rule of thumb is that if you get that perfumy taste, probably needs to steep. Some people shake up the bottle and leave the cap off over night - others just give it a few days/week. There are some co's that don't need to steep ever if at all and some do all the time. Depends.
I think the rule of thumb is that if you get that perfumy taste, probably needs to steep. Some people shake up the bottle and leave the cap off over night - others just give it a few days/week. There are some co's that don't need to steep ever if at all and some do all the time. Depends.
I still really don't know. One of the first juice I got from FSUSA was their RY4. I didn't like it very much, so I set it aside to steep for a couple months. Tried it again, and it was great. It was so good, I ordered a 60 ml bottle of it. When the brand new 60 ml bottle came in, I tried it immediately and it tasted just as good as the stuff that had steeped for months. I don't know, maybe my tastes just changed?
I have never needed to steep anything from FSUSA nor Backwoods Brew. I don't know who VS is.
I will say many juices improve with age but I've never gotten anything perfumey from FSUSA or BWB. I have gotten perfumey liquids from other vendors, generally blended flavors, often ones with a cream flavor in them. But I don't care - if I like the liquid and want to vape it NOW I vape it, and eventually the perfumey-ness will go away just from air being expelled from the bottle and fresh air getting it.
If you think something needs steeping, uncap, pop out the dropper tip (I use a tissue and press/tilt sideways while lifting) and set the bottle somewhere safe from kids, pets and spills. Leave it uncapped for anywhere for a couple of hours to overnight. Then put the dropper tip back in and recap. Test. If not ready yet, just let it sit capped for a week or two.
I will say many juices improve with age but I've never gotten anything perfumey from FSUSA or BWB. I have gotten perfumey liquids from other vendors, generally blended flavors, often ones with a cream flavor in them. But I don't care - if I like the liquid and want to vape it NOW I vape it, and eventually the perfumey-ness will go away just from air being expelled from the bottle and fresh air getting it.
If you think something needs steeping, uncap, pop out the dropper tip (I use a tissue and press/tilt sideways while lifting) and set the bottle somewhere safe from kids, pets and spills. Leave it uncapped for anywhere for a couple of hours to overnight. Then put the dropper tip back in and recap. Test. If not ready yet, just let it sit capped for a week or two.
I just received an order from FSUSA. I tried Dessert Ship, and the freebie of Switchblade. Both are good now, but the Switchblade I think will be better in a week or so. I guess it just depends Anthe individual and their tastes and preferences.
What did you think of Switchblade? To me it was like part Desert Ship and part something more peppery? I wish it was available in other PG/VG's (it's a specialty tobacco so it isn't). And yes - it is blended flavors that are probably more likely to need steeping. Single flavor juices right from the flavoring bottle to the PG/VG are less likely to need steeping. Switchblade is definitely a blend.
Well steeping does a couple of things.
1. Oxydation: If you leave a cap off for a couple of days, or shake the bottle up to let the air in the bottle mix with the juice, oxygen will interact chemically with the nicotine, and and the flavoring. This can alter the taste over longer periods of time.
2. "Melding": This is where flavorings interact with each other and the oxygen. This can also alter the taste over longer periods of time.
It is really a bit of a random chemical dance. Some juices benefit from steeping, others taste the same all the time. My main juice is great right out of the bottle, but give it 6 weeks on the shelf and it really becomes a deeper flavor.
There's another juice on my shelf that needs to be vaped in 8 weeks, or it just doesn't taste right.
So sometimes steeping helps, sometimes it doesn't, and in rare cases (my experience) it can make juice less than tasty.
Letting Dekang juice steep for instance (Or getting some old stuff) can really result in nasty juice.
Not every juice will do this, but here is a photo of two bottles, with the same juice. The darker bottle is over 6 months old. The lighter bottle was mixed last week:
The color difference is due to two factors:
1. Oxydation of the nicotine.
2. Chemical interactions between flavors.
The color difference is due to two factors:
1. Oxydation of the nicotine.
2. Chemical interactions between flavors.
I have been vaping over a year now and get alot of my juices from fsusa with double flavor and I still let them sit a couple of weeks to bring out more flavor, (in my opnion).
Only you can decide if you want to let them sit and steep. I have found that, if I can resist, everything is better if I wait at least a month after it's born. Some will think this is extreme, but I haven't been disappointed in anything I've ordered using this wait time.
That's interesting. The first juice order I placed was with Backwoods Brew. I tried the day it arrived and thought I had a definite chemical aftertaste. Started a thread about it and was told to let it steep:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo.../169296-backwoods-brew-funky-after-taste.html
It's interesting how variable peoples tastes can be. what's great to one is totally unvapable to another.
I was wondering if "additional flavor" was necessary with my order from FSUSA. I decided to get everything as it comes and first see how I like them. Got a whole array of tobaccos including PureCig, Max/Boro, Camtel, Desert Ship, Applewood, and some Cocoa (dormouse suggestion, thanks!).
From Vapor Station I got Tampa, Texas, and Phoenix... really just looking for a nice tobacco flavor that's not overly sweet. As you can tell I'm new so gotta try till I find something I like!
Thanks for feedback so far.
From Vapor Station I got Tampa, Texas, and Phoenix... really just looking for a nice tobacco flavor that's not overly sweet. As you can tell I'm new so gotta try till I find something I like!
Thanks for feedback so far.
I recently ordered a 10ml bottle of Desert Ship from FSUSA, and while I like it, I do detect that "baby powder" taste that I've heard some people refer to. It's not really off-putting, but I do think the juice would be better without that flavor. I've only had it for about a week and it'll be gone soon, so unfortunately I won't get the opportunity to find out if steeping for a while would make a difference! I plan to order some Desert Ship from VaporBomb next, and if it tastes like the FSUSA DS, but without that powdery taste, I'm thinking I'll have found my all-day vape. I may also order some more DS from FSUSA at the same time, so I can let it sit and steep for a while.
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