FSUSA - good juice

[AttyPops]

I have ordered your juice sir, and will do so again. It's good juice.

FYI - I in no way question your personal patriotism. And FSUSA juice rocks. I've recommended it to others.

I have had great results with DIY juice using usa suppliers, and would like, as a customer, to have a supplier give me a usa flavor option. That way, I know that the contents of the juice is 100% usa made.

You closed the other thread before I could reply, forcing me to open this one.

Your patriotism is not questioned. My desire is to have a usa juice option, where the usa regulation/sanitary standards come into play. I'm glad you wave the flag, I just wish, when ordering, that I had a usa option.

There was no personal reference to you or your family/employees in the message. If you took it that way, you have my apology. The reference was to the business name only, and to the stated juice vendor.

When I 1st found your site, I was looking for 100% usa-made juice. I purchased some, realizing that your nicotine and most ingredients are 100% usa. I assumed it didn't have any of the questionable ingredients that I had heard were in some juices.

The 1st part of your reply, answered my question. The last part disturbs me. So again, I apologize if I offended you. Poor choice of wording on my part. It was not my intent to offend you.

 

[banjo]

FSUSA is a quality supplier, selling a quality product. I'm am sure that they have tested all of the flavorings available, and, judged by the quality of their juice, made the best choice for a flavoring supplier. I don't see why they should change, unless they find a better source, and I, quite frankly, don't care where the flavoring comes from as long as it is the best available.

 

[TexasT]

At my age I don't care where anything comes from because I ain't gonna live long enough to die from it anyhow.

On the other hand, like AttyPops, I appreciate the use of American made (or our Allies) products for all the obvious reasons.

AttyPops, I guess I somehow missed the closed Thread you are referring to, so am unable to comment on it. But I can say this. If you look through these Threads you'll note that I have to be the most aggravating person on here. But these people on this site are forgiving ... overlook my faults ... or ignore me completely when necessary. And I love 'em for it.

I also know that sometimes its real easy to type something to be read on a site like this and to have it come out not saying what we really intended to say. Happens to all of us.

You're welcome here and I can tell because nobody has said your not welcome. LOL. So relax, vape and tell us about YOU. You really are among friends here.

 

[mauisun]

trust me, if I could find and American supplier of such good quality as FlavourART I would be all over them. I vape too. I want the best. we provide the best. But that requires the best. Lorann, perfumer's apprentice etc. do not provide the best. that is why atties die in 3 weeks, flavors are all over the board etc. I am degreed in electronics so I am on it when it comes to people getting the most for their money when it comes to their electronics.
We get approached every day, multiples times a day, from china electro shops wanting to sell us "eGo's for 15 bucks etc. crap all of it.
We have an exclusive contracts for a reason with FlavourArt. they are the best bar none. Max, the owner, got a phd from a prestigious east coast university here in the U.S. in bio chemistry and bio sciences. He is the man. he took that degree back home to Italy where he grew up. They are experiencing growinig pains just like us. Both the best, and neither of us will compromise.
Ok cool. to the original poster. no big deal we move on. But if you knew me, trust me, you would never question my patriotism to this country, and my desire to make it a better world. I have family all over Michigan. I know your state is hurting. would do anything I could to make your state a better place financially. First thing you need to do is kick out your governor who is from canada

 

[cozzicon]

trust me, if I could find and American supplier of such good quality as FlavourART I would be all over them. I vape too. I want the best. we provide the best. But that requires the best. Lorann, perfumer's apprentice etc. do not provide the best. that is why atties die in 3 weeks, flavors are all over the board etc. I am degreed in electronics so I am on it when it comes to people getting the most for their money when it comes to their electronics.
We get approached every day, multiples times a day, from china electro shops wanting to sell us "eGo's for 15 bucks etc. crap all of it.
We have an exclusive contracts for a reason with FlavourArt. they are the best bar none. Max, the owner, got a phd from a prestigious east coast university here in the U.S. in bio chemistry and bio sciences. He is the man. he took that degree back home to Italy where he grew up. They are experiencing growinig pains just like us. Both the best, and neither of us will compromise.
Ok cool. to the original poster. no big deal we move on. But if you knew me, trust me, you would never question my patriotism to this country, and my desire to make it a better world. I have family all over Michigan. I know your state is hurting. would do anything I could to make your state a better place financially. First thing you need to do is kick out your governor who is from canada

Aww... dude. I like our governor.

As an aside-

I'm an American of Italian heritage. I have living family in Italy. It is not a rich country.

Thank you for doing business with an Italian company based on *quality*.

In the 1980 my family's home town of Senerchia, Avellino, was severely damaged by earthquake. A lot of American investment and aid brought the area back.

Naples, the large city in that area, has contributed pizza, various pastas, much of the Italian cuisine we eat in America (New York and Chicago varieties), women with mustaches and many many people who have contributed to this country in ways un-counted.

It only makes sense, that if Italy has the best flavorings... that's where you go for flavorings.

I support non-xenophobic business practices. Perhaps the fact that Flavourart is so good, will spur US companies to do better. That's good competition.

I mean, if you buy lesser quality simply because it's US made- you aren't really letting the market work are you? That's more like consumer level protectionism.

 

[Taurox]

I actually wanted to add to that post before it got closed. I have very little experience with DIY. I have only made a bunch of different flavors. However I can tell you in my limited experience that Lorann is extremely sweet flavors, like candy. I was unable to mix anything that created natural flavors. Only bubblegum and candy flavors and they are GREAT. I also used Perfumers apprentice and oddly enough the flavors taste kinda like perfume. I know that just sounds like a simple deduction but I wasn't expecting that when I was creating flavors and was shocked to discover it. I have NOT used Flavorart, however I think I might try them... course now that I found FSUSA maybe I don't have to yet. Yes I am hording 100mg bottles for when the day comes...
Again these are only my opinions and I have very limited DIY experience.

T

 

[Free2BMe]

I am nothing more than one of many customers at FSUSA...just like the rest of you here. I accepted being a Supplier Associate because I believe in David, Pam, the company and most definitely their product. They have my trust and loyalty because they have earned it...providing me with excellent ejuices and outstanding customer service. You don't find that too often today in any industry. I would say David knows his business very well, and who am I to ever question that. I don't walk in his shoes nor have any knowledge of what it takes to be in his shoes. What I do know is that they take great pride in their work, are passionate about their product and still find time to treat each and every customer as if they are the only one. What else could possibly matter?

FreedomSmokeUSA - the name stands strong and is most definitely a great USA company!

 

[TexasT]

I am nothing more than one of many customers at FSUSA...just like the rest of you here. I accepted being a Supplier Associate because I believe in David, Pam, the company and most definitely their product. They have my trust and loyalty because they have earned it...providing me with excellent ejuices and outstanding customer service. You don't find that too often today in any industry. I would say David knows his business very well, and who am I to ever question that. I don't walk in his shoes nor have any knowledge of what it takes to be in his shoes. What I do know is that they take great pride in their work, are passionate about their product and still find time to treat each and every customer as if they are the only one. What else could possibly matter?

FreedomSmokeUSA - the name stands strong and is most definitely a great USA company!

Very well stated Free2BMe. Can't argue with that!

 

[misterD]

why get a taurus when you can ride a ferrari?

 

[vaporgalinfla]

I actually wanted to add to that post before it got closed. I have very little experience with DIY. I have only made a bunch of different flavors. However I can tell you in my limited experience that Lorann is extremely sweet flavors, like candy. I was unable to mix anything that created natural flavors. Only bubblegum and candy flavors and they are GREAT. I also used Perfumers apprentice and oddly enough the flavors taste kinda like perfume. I know that just sounds like a simple deduction but I wasn't expecting that when I was creating flavors and was shocked to discover it. I have NOT used Flavorart, however I think I might try them... course now that I found FSUSA maybe I don't have to yet. Yes I am hording 100mg bottles for when the day comes...
Again these are only my opinions and I have very limited DIY experience.

T

I have no DIY experience except for mixing FSUSA's premixed vanilla and peach together. I know that's not DIY - just joking. All kidding aside, though, I thought about getting into it after getting perfumey tasting liquids and being disappointed with flavors tasting too fake and sweet. Then I discovered FSUSA - no need for me to do any DIY or order from anyone else.

 

[WhatAClumsyGirl]

I do a bit of diy..but nothing over the top.

I also wanted to respond to that other thread....LorAnn is American based...however, they do not support vaping. That plays a big factor in my mind set.

 

[AttyPops]

I do a bit of diy..but nothing over the top.

I also wanted to respond to that other thread....LorAnn is American based...however, they do not support vaping. That plays a big factor in my mind set.

I wasn't aware of that, thanks for the info. My mindset too.

I DIY due to food allergies (hives and such, not really throat closing or anything). Helps me to know, at least somewhat, what is in the juice. I am sad to hear this, since I know several LorAnn flavors that don't give me trouble (and some may). I also have some PA stuff, and FSUSA FA stuff. Now I have to keep shopping around (including FA stuff, of course). Several vendors, several recipes, several sites. It'll probably take me a year to sort through flavors that I like that don't bother me....

As for the FSUSA options, I respect them and their opinions completely. I didn't realize FSUSA signed an exclusive contract. Probably not uncommon. I just wanted options, as a consumer, and thought since they had the best recipes, clearest juice, etc. that options would be a good thing. I do like to support local companies as an option (not as an exclusion to other countries tho). Didn't realize how strong the opinion on FA vs everyone else is here.

Also, I was looking for 100 percent USA juice due to all the warnings (FDA, USP only, ....) Oh well. I do like the Wyatt Earp sample they sent. No trouble with it yet. Tell the FDA I haven't died yet (my vaping allergies aren't that bad). I assume that the USA and Italy have similar standards when it comes to quality control.

Thanks again for the info.

EDIT: P.S. Thanks Tex...lol. If you're #1 ("the most aggravating person on here"), I must be running a close second and catching up fast.

And FYI you guys -- it's actually a good sign for a consumer/customer to see all this loyalty to a company.

 

[WhatAClumsyGirl]

I wasn't aware of that, thanks for the info. My mindset too.

I DIY due to food allergies (hives and such, not really throat closing or anything). Helps me to know, at least somewhat, what is in the juice. I am sad to hear this, since I know several LorAnn flavors that don't give me trouble (and some may). I also have some PA stuff, and FSUSA FA stuff. Now I have to keep shopping around (including FA stuff, of course). Several vendors, several recipes, several sites. It'll probably take me a year to sort through flavors that I like that don't bother me....

As for the FSUSA options, I respect them and their opinions completely. I didn't realize FSUSA signed an exclusive contract. Probably not uncommon. I just wanted options, as a consumer, and thought since they had the best recipes, clearest juice, etc. that options would be a good thing. I do like to support local companies as an option (not as an exclusion to other countries tho). Didn't realize how strong the opinion on FA vs everyone else is here.

Also, I was looking for 100 percent USA juice due to all the warnings (FDA, USP only, ....) Oh well. I do like the Wyatt Earp sample they sent. No trouble with it yet. Tell the FDA I haven't died yet (my vaping allergies aren't that bad). I assume that the USA and Italy have similar standards when it comes to quality control.

Thanks again for the info.

I myself just found this out recently. I typically use a few of Lorann Flavor oils, mainly peppermint....and probably will continue to use it occasionally, but after finding this out...it really has changed my point of view on their company.

Good luck and enjoy the vape.

 

[AttyPops]

Can you tell me how to confirm that? Just curious now... and disappointed. Sooo... many references to "you can find some LorAnn's......." in the threads. I'd rather not respond to rumor, though. Is there a position statement on this or something????

 

[Free2BMe]

I wasn't aware of that, thanks for the info. My mindset too.

I DIY due to food allergies (hives and such, not really throat closing or anything). Helps me to know, at least somewhat, what is in the juice. I am sad to hear this, since I know several LorAnn flavors that don't give me trouble (and some may). I also have some PA stuff, and FSUSA FA stuff. Now I have to keep shopping around (including FA stuff, of course). Several vendors, several recipes, several sites. It'll probably take me a year to sort through flavors that I like that don't bother me....

As for the FSUSA options, I respect them and their opinions completely. I didn't realize FSUSA signed an exclusive contract. Probably not uncommon. I just wanted options, as a consumer, and thought since they had the best recipes, clearest juice, etc. that options would be a good thing. I do like to support local companies as an option (not as an exclusion to other countries tho). Didn't realize how strong the opinion on FA vs everyone else is here.

Also, I was looking for 100 percent USA juice due to all the warnings (FDA, USP only, ....) Oh well. I do like the Wyatt Earp sample they sent. No trouble with it yet. Tell the FDA I haven't died yet (my vaping allergies aren't that bad). I assume that the USA and Italy have similar standards when it comes to quality control.

Thanks again for the info.

EDIT: P.S. Thanks Tex...lol. If you're #1 ("the most aggravating person on here"), I must be running a close second and catching up fast.

And FYI you guys -- it's actually a good sign for a consumer/customer to see all this loyalty to a company.

It's all cool, Atty. I just hope you can come up with a selection of juices that will work for you; I imagine that has to be a frustrating process.

 

[WhatAClumsyGirl]

Can you tell me how to confirm that? Just curious now... and disappointed. Sooo... many references to "you can find some LorAnn's......." in the threads. I'd rather not respond to rumor, though. Is there a position statement on this or something????

Another vendor on this forum told me this.. so, i cannot confirm right now...so I contacted them via email to ask their position on the use of their products in Eliquids. I'll let you know what they say when i get a response back...im curious as well to see what they say.

Besides that.....FSUSA has the best flavors by far over most of the juice makers out there. Their flavors are spot on...Have you tried Hopscotch or Butterscotch Almond yet ? Once you go there....it's never going back.

 

[vaporgalinfla]

Have you tried Hopscotch or Butterscotch Almond yet ? Once you go there....it's never going back.

Quit telling everyone! Otherwise, there might be a shortage. That worries me because I only have 115 ml. 12 mg. and 58 ml. 6 mg. of Hopscotch and about 80 ml. 12 mg. Butterscotch Almond

 

[AttyPops]

<snip> .Have you tried Hopscotch or Butterscotch Almond yet ? Once you go there....it's never going back.

I'll have to try it ... I need some tobacco flavors. I liked the Wyatt Earp sample.

 

[WhatAClumsyGirl]

Atty...here it is from the horses mouth ( so to speak )

This is the email i received back from LorAnn oils :


Thank you for your interest in LorAnn Oils. We do not encourage anyone to use our products for e-cigarettes. We do not feel that there has been enough testing on them or information on the use of our flavorings in this way. We know that there are people who do use them in this way but it is not something we would recommend.



Martha

Customer Service

LorAnn Oils

1-800-862-8620
martha.williams@lorannoils.com

 

[WhatAClumsyGirl]

Quit telling everyone! Otherwise, there might be a shortage. That worries me because I only have 115 ml. 12 mg. and 58 ml. 6 mg. of Hopscotch and about 80 ml. 12 mg. Butterscotch Almond

lol....Im down to 150 ml 12 mg....gone thru a 30ml bottle in a flash !! i have 60 ml of Butterscotch almond.

I won't tell anyone else. It'll be our junkies secret....

Ya''ll try that Ry4...good stuff !