The first 2 min are hilarious.
A PBusardo Rant & Review - Vision eGo Clearomizer V3 (long wick) - SnG Vapor - YouTube
A PBusardo Rant & Review - Vision eGo Clearomizer V3 (long wick) - SnG Vapor - YouTube
Funny stardust review by Phil Busardo
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he said it doesnt fit his vaping style thats all. if its upright on a desk all day and he vapes it straight up, then wicking can be (and is) an issue, i had the same issue myself. i have never gotten a dry hit from a wet carto, ever. i actually dont think it was slanted at all, but then again im not anti filler cartos either (i use both).
many more millions are fine using "dirty sock" cartos. he was not dissing the product in any way.
many more millions are fine using "dirty sock" cartos. he was not dissing the product in any way.
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i use both as as well, im just very picky which filler carto i use, i do happen to like the gogo cartos alot as long as they are wet. I am very senstive to the socky taste many can give
I also had a decent experience with a boge someone sent me and i really like the stallions.
I also had a decent experience with a boge someone sent me and i really like the stallions.
you might have never gotten a dry hit form one, but i can go on and one with a list about the issues many have. Back to backing fillers isnt pleasurable for me either and i like to back to back vape. In the end its what the user likes and what works for them. With all the issues fillers can have I only ever discuss the socky taste which isnt something i invented, its been a prevelant issue with certain people since i started vaping many years ago and adopted that saying someone mentioned because it was spot on. That issue though isnt as bad depending on what carto is used(for my tastebuds)
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LOL The beginning was kinda funny... This, of course, is coming from a person who really liked v1 best, and hopes like heck they don't do away with short wicks. I suppose wicks on a Stardust could be cut - but it would require some determined fishing, I think.
He does have a point about tilting and such - if you put any half-way full clearo vertically, and hold it vertically, you will get dry hits. It's only that I don't see what the big deal is about tilting in the first place. And you don't have to hold them upside-down - that's just a tad of an exaggeration.
Filled cartos have their own fiddly problems, quite aside from socky taste - you have to top them off, for one thing. And I don't want to lug a tank around with me all the time - when I'm out, I want a relatively compact setup.
I just don't see how, objectively, a clearo is any less convenient than a filled carto... As far as I am concerned, its Stardust all the way, baby!
He does have a point about tilting and such - if you put any half-way full clearo vertically, and hold it vertically, you will get dry hits. It's only that I don't see what the big deal is about tilting in the first place. And you don't have to hold them upside-down - that's just a tad of an exaggeration.
Filled cartos have their own fiddly problems, quite aside from socky taste - you have to top them off, for one thing. And I don't want to lug a tank around with me all the time - when I'm out, I want a relatively compact setup.
I just don't see how, objectively, a clearo is any less convenient than a filled carto... As far as I am concerned, its Stardust all the way, baby!
Got that right briar !I just don't see how, objectively, a clearo is any less convenient than a filled carto... As far as I am concerned, its Stardust all the way, baby!
I don't get how he has the 'problem'. I keep mine upright in a holder, but when I go to vape it, I'm almost always holding it ~15o from horizontal. I don't enjoy 'vertical' vaping... it's a pain in the neck!
I have no problem with Phil, or anyone else, stating their opinion of a preference of a carto or a clearo... I understand these as being subjective. Personally, I'm with most here and prefer a clearo and needing to "put up with" tilting it vs having to top off a polyfil carto and constantly changing it when it clogs up... but that is my preference and that is all.
Still, I also felt that he touched on several issues are are a cause for concern. My main cause of concern is the actual lack of testing before the release of a product.... A perfect example of this happened with the Vision Stone which was never corrected, they all had a tendancy to leak and this issue should never have happened, I see no reason that was not addressed properly in testing before release and no amount of excuses will convince me otherwise.
Another area of concern is the extremely short lifecycle of many products that have produced as being rebuildable or with replacable components. The Vision Stone will suffice as another good example of this, these were marketed as they were going to have supplies provided for a long time to come to make them a viable product that wasn't just a disposable item like the current clearo's and cartos... now the replacement products for them are hard to find. Don't get me wrong, the Vivi Nova is a much better product and is a natural update to the concept... but how long before it is discontinued and something else comes along making the replacement parts for it hard to obtain. If a vendor or manufactor markets a product and states they will have parts available to rebuild/replace the components, they need to stand by their promises they make to their clients and do just that and not just for a few months.
The other issue that was brought up was the versioning issues as well as rebranding a product under a different name than the manufactor uses, not to mention the clones that just further confuse the issue. I have never agreed with the concept of rebranding itself... it is just a marketing ploy to make us believe it is a different or better product when in fact it is the same one that everyone else is carrying under the original name. To me, this is almost ( but not quite ) as bad as another company making a clone of a product. Just because these practices are common in many industries, doesn't make them right. They only serve to confuse consumers and make actual comparisons between different but almost similar products almost impossible.
I know products do need to undergo improvements, I'm not against that and I encourage it, but they need to be fully tested before they are released. I also understand that even a full testing of a product can not cover all possible scenerios so certain issues will be missed but the issue is that full testing isn't being done yet in my opinion. If a product is going to marketed as having replacable components or rebuildable components, then those supplies for them need to be made for longer period of time than just until the next version is released. Product versions should have clear information on what the differences are that were addressed... And finally clone manufacteror's should be taken out back and shot... ok, maybe not shot but taken to court and stopped from copy infringing on other more innovative companies products.
Still, I also felt that he touched on several issues are are a cause for concern. My main cause of concern is the actual lack of testing before the release of a product.... A perfect example of this happened with the Vision Stone which was never corrected, they all had a tendancy to leak and this issue should never have happened, I see no reason that was not addressed properly in testing before release and no amount of excuses will convince me otherwise.
Another area of concern is the extremely short lifecycle of many products that have produced as being rebuildable or with replacable components. The Vision Stone will suffice as another good example of this, these were marketed as they were going to have supplies provided for a long time to come to make them a viable product that wasn't just a disposable item like the current clearo's and cartos... now the replacement products for them are hard to find. Don't get me wrong, the Vivi Nova is a much better product and is a natural update to the concept... but how long before it is discontinued and something else comes along making the replacement parts for it hard to obtain. If a vendor or manufactor markets a product and states they will have parts available to rebuild/replace the components, they need to stand by their promises they make to their clients and do just that and not just for a few months.
The other issue that was brought up was the versioning issues as well as rebranding a product under a different name than the manufactor uses, not to mention the clones that just further confuse the issue. I have never agreed with the concept of rebranding itself... it is just a marketing ploy to make us believe it is a different or better product when in fact it is the same one that everyone else is carrying under the original name. To me, this is almost ( but not quite ) as bad as another company making a clone of a product. Just because these practices are common in many industries, doesn't make them right. They only serve to confuse consumers and make actual comparisons between different but almost similar products almost impossible.
I know products do need to undergo improvements, I'm not against that and I encourage it, but they need to be fully tested before they are released. I also understand that even a full testing of a product can not cover all possible scenerios so certain issues will be missed but the issue is that full testing isn't being done yet in my opinion. If a product is going to marketed as having replacable components or rebuildable components, then those supplies for them need to be made for longer period of time than just until the next version is released. Product versions should have clear information on what the differences are that were addressed... And finally clone manufacteror's should be taken out back and shot... ok, maybe not shot but taken to court and stopped from copy infringing on other more innovative companies products.
I actually find it against 'my' nature to vape in any way other than horizontal or somewhat horizontal when I am vaping, much like when you used to smoke. Its being aware of what you are vaping. When you are vaping a top coil clearo, you of course vape more horizontally and to me, its quite natural. Lol..so what we have here is the horizontal vs vertical vaping culture.
I swore off fillereds when I discovered the CE2. Refreshing clean taste, easy fill, no 'topping off' when you still have half your juice in the carto. Fillered vaping is very much like quasi dripping, for most it is. I would have to say the best fillered experience I had was with the GoGo cartomizers and this is why we carry them. But still you have to drop 90 or so drops in that bad boy to fill it.
Back to the stardust. How great is it to take this carto out of its candy wrapper and simply tilt it a few degrees, pump juice down the side and fill - ready to vape in 8 seconds. With a fillered its drop, drip, drop, drop. Maybe after 5-8 minutes you are ready to vape. Besides this you have to carefully inspect your filler. Is it soaked enough, did I soak it too much and going to have juice flow down the middle? Then , after your juice gets trapped in the filler you have to top it off after its approximately half way emptied or you get dry scratchy hits. Use it for more than a day and your frequency of topping off increases, the filler seems to impact and unless you go through a tricky cleaning process, that fillered carto is done for. All of this is besides the fact that of course, you have filler, filtering your juice, lending its flavor stamp to your vape.
I swore off fillereds when I discovered the CE2. Refreshing clean taste, easy fill, no 'topping off' when you still have half your juice in the carto. Fillered vaping is very much like quasi dripping, for most it is. I would have to say the best fillered experience I had was with the GoGo cartomizers and this is why we carry them. But still you have to drop 90 or so drops in that bad boy to fill it.
Back to the stardust. How great is it to take this carto out of its candy wrapper and simply tilt it a few degrees, pump juice down the side and fill - ready to vape in 8 seconds. With a fillered its drop, drip, drop, drop. Maybe after 5-8 minutes you are ready to vape. Besides this you have to carefully inspect your filler. Is it soaked enough, did I soak it too much and going to have juice flow down the middle? Then , after your juice gets trapped in the filler you have to top it off after its approximately half way emptied or you get dry scratchy hits. Use it for more than a day and your frequency of topping off increases, the filler seems to impact and unless you go through a tricky cleaning process, that fillered carto is done for. All of this is besides the fact that of course, you have filler, filtering your juice, lending its flavor stamp to your vape.
LOL The beginning was kinda funny... This, of course, is coming from a person who really liked v1 best, and hopes like heck they don't do away with short wicks. I suppose wicks on a Stardust could be cut - but it would require some determined fishing, I think.
He does have a point about tilting and such - if you put any half-way full clearo vertically, and hold it vertically, you will get dry hits. It's only that I don't see what the big deal is about tilting in the first place. And you don't have to hold them upside-down - that's just a tad of an exaggeration.
Filled cartos have their own fiddly problems, quite aside from socky taste - you have to top them off, for one thing. And I don't want to lug a tank around with me all the time - when I'm out, I want a relatively compact setup.
I just don't see how, objectively, a clearo is any less convenient than a filled carto... As far as I am concerned, its Stardust all the way, baby!
I don't get how people can vape vertically....it is just "unnatural" to me. I usually leave my stardusts laying on their sides...so rarely have an issue. My only gripe with them is the darkening/carmelizing of some juices near the bottom of the fill. I only happens to me with sweet juices....and I can live with tossing a few drops of juice for the convenience of the Stardust. I'm loving the VN for juices I vape a lot, and love the Stardusts for switching around to flavors I don't vape as much.
I like watching Phil's reviews....but he does seem to kind of be a "carto guy".....doesn't often have great things to say about clearos.
I like watching Phil's reviews....but he does seem to kind of be a "carto guy".....doesn't often have great things to say about clearos.
The beginning was funny but seriously who vapes like that? I guess that's why I really have no problems with any of the clearos. I am a tilter
The angle that I vape at depends a lot on the PV I'm using... a 510 minicig type is horizontal all the way where as on my Legacy which is a 18650 Stainless steel mod... I naturally hold it at about a 30-45 degree angle and then adjust it according to the level of juice in the clearo/tank as needed.
I rate my vaporizers on about 4 main criteria followed my several minor ones... Flavor is the most important probably, how prone they are to leaking is the next most important to me. When I'm at work or out and about, I can't have one leak out and cause a mess that I would need to deal with. The longevity as well as the required maintanence are going to be the third and forth areas of concern. Replacement costs, capacity and even visual appeal also factor into it towards the last.
Currently there is only one that is near perfect in most of those areas for me... the Viva Nova v2.5. The next version of the Vision eGo Clearomizer ( aka Stardust ) with replaceble/rebuildable heads will likely fit into this category also. The current versions of the Vision eGo Clearomizer work nicely but are a bit of a pain to maintain. All of the other 510 and 510 XL types that I've tried ( BC or TC types ) all are prone to leaking and I won't use those anywhere but the house where I can place them into something to catch the juice if that happens... they certainly won't be in my pocket, sitting in the seat of my car or anywhere that they may cause a mess I don't have time to clean up.
I rate my vaporizers on about 4 main criteria followed my several minor ones... Flavor is the most important probably, how prone they are to leaking is the next most important to me. When I'm at work or out and about, I can't have one leak out and cause a mess that I would need to deal with. The longevity as well as the required maintanence are going to be the third and forth areas of concern. Replacement costs, capacity and even visual appeal also factor into it towards the last.
Currently there is only one that is near perfect in most of those areas for me... the Viva Nova v2.5. The next version of the Vision eGo Clearomizer ( aka Stardust ) with replaceble/rebuildable heads will likely fit into this category also. The current versions of the Vision eGo Clearomizer work nicely but are a bit of a pain to maintain. All of the other 510 and 510 XL types that I've tried ( BC or TC types ) all are prone to leaking and I won't use those anywhere but the house where I can place them into something to catch the juice if that happens... they certainly won't be in my pocket, sitting in the seat of my car or anywhere that they may cause a mess I don't have time to clean up.
Yeah, and I still don't get why that happens. I filled one with Boba's a week ago - haven't vaped it at all, forgot about it. Now the juice is black. Still tastes the same... This is just weird.
I don't toss the juice when this happens. I just vape it if it tastes the same. IDK if it bad or good or what, but I figure I haven't done anything to it, I know it's not burnt, so... (we need an emoticon for a shrug)
I've been wondering about this issue as well... The wicks filtering out solids bacj into the juice concentrating it further... Leaching back from the coil where it was caramelized ... but the blackening when it hasn't been vaped on is unexplainable by these other theories unless the coil/wick were already clogged up some
Yeah, me too. Now. When I first came to the world of the clearos, I vaped vertically. I had that habit from the time I used the little 510 with an atomizer and a tiny fillered cart. The wicking on those things was not so good, so I held it vertical to assist the procedure. (Incidentally, that whole cart thing, which never really worked for me, drove me out of vaping for a year out of sheer frustration - I ended up smoking more than I ever did - until I discovered GotVapes; I owe Chris and Dan
)In the beginning, I tossed out almost a full pack of Fluxos because I couldn't get them to do anything but dry hits, and the folks who were explaining things to me on this forum - how to mod and such - didn't realize I didn't know about tilting.
Once I knew about tilting, it's like a whole new world opened up. No more dry hits by and large. And it feels more natural anyway.
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