GB e cig ban
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I think this is the information you are searching for:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...news-rpc-canes-mhra-regulation-proposals.html
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http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...news-rpc-canes-mhra-regulation-proposals.html
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There's a lot of info here:-
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-news/97316-uk-regulation-discussion-thread.html
Basically the MHRA messed up and we've heard September as a deciding date(happens to co-inside with the FDA date). We shall see but i'm stocked up
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-news/97316-uk-regulation-discussion-thread.html
Basically the MHRA messed up and we've heard September as a deciding date(happens to co-inside with the FDA date). We shall see but i'm stocked up
It's great to see a government body in this world that actually looks at the facts and exercises common sense.
Whoa there's gonna be a FINAL final decision in sept for the US?? EFFFFckc said:There's a lot of info here:-
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-news/97316-uk-regulation-discussion-thread.html
Basically the MHRA messed up and we've heard September as a deciding date(happens to co-inside with the FDA date). We shall see but i'm stocked up
The situation is fluid in both the US and UK. Things look more positive in the US because the ecigarette industry has already won the case and the FDA lost. But of course that doesn't mean they'll go away and shut up, far from it - they are fighting like hell. And we know the FDA has many unusual methods to call on. Even if they are thrown out of court finally, they still have a lot of other cards to play and are proven willing to do whatever it takes.
In the UK I'm still pessimistic because although the pharmaceutical licensing authority have been told to take another look at the issues by a senior government department - that's all they have been told. They can still come back with another try. The trouble is that common sense, a strong grasp of reality and an ability to see the future are not well-known features of UK government departments. The only practical way to stop these people once they have a bone in their teeth is pressure from other government sources. This process has started but may be too little too late.
In the short term if a ban was imposed (ie a medical license requirement for all ecigarette products, which costs a minimum of £100k [$150k] per product) then for a period of one month, supplies would be less easy to find. However very soon, all ecig businesses would move offshore - base their sites and mailing operations abroad - and post the purchases to you, so it would be business as usual. It's not illegal to use unlicensed medicines in the UK, or even to post them in from abroad, it's only illegal to sell them from a UK base. So you'd order online from a website based in say, Southern Ireland, and your purchases will arrive by post in three or four days. Business as usual in fact.
Costs for the industry would go up so that initially there would be some minor price rises. US firms would be able to fully compete for UK sales. But the key thing is that it would be business as usual after a bedding-in period. It would be a serious blow to the country of course since there are a ton of negatives to that situation - but as we know, what is obvious to everyone else is often hidden to government agencies.
To stop the postal trade they would have to change the law and ban postal imports of unlicensed medicines. To enforce that would cost a phenomenal amount of money and is unlikely - they'd need to increase the number of Customs officers at postal depots by a factor of ten to have any chance, and routinely open all overseas inbound packets and parcels. Costs would be very high to do this and it would still fail as it has never yet been possible to enforce a ban on anything that the population want in large numbers. And once ecig user numbers reach a critical mass, the legislation is overturned as it becomes impossible for government to live with the problems caused. This we know as it's happened before.
In the UK I'm still pessimistic because although the pharmaceutical licensing authority have been told to take another look at the issues by a senior government department - that's all they have been told. They can still come back with another try. The trouble is that common sense, a strong grasp of reality and an ability to see the future are not well-known features of UK government departments. The only practical way to stop these people once they have a bone in their teeth is pressure from other government sources. This process has started but may be too little too late.
In the short term if a ban was imposed (ie a medical license requirement for all ecigarette products, which costs a minimum of £100k [$150k] per product) then for a period of one month, supplies would be less easy to find. However very soon, all ecig businesses would move offshore - base their sites and mailing operations abroad - and post the purchases to you, so it would be business as usual. It's not illegal to use unlicensed medicines in the UK, or even to post them in from abroad, it's only illegal to sell them from a UK base. So you'd order online from a website based in say, Southern Ireland, and your purchases will arrive by post in three or four days. Business as usual in fact.
Costs for the industry would go up so that initially there would be some minor price rises. US firms would be able to fully compete for UK sales. But the key thing is that it would be business as usual after a bedding-in period. It would be a serious blow to the country of course since there are a ton of negatives to that situation - but as we know, what is obvious to everyone else is often hidden to government agencies.
To stop the postal trade they would have to change the law and ban postal imports of unlicensed medicines. To enforce that would cost a phenomenal amount of money and is unlikely - they'd need to increase the number of Customs officers at postal depots by a factor of ten to have any chance, and routinely open all overseas inbound packets and parcels. Costs would be very high to do this and it would still fail as it has never yet been possible to enforce a ban on anything that the population want in large numbers. And once ecig user numbers reach a critical mass, the legislation is overturned as it becomes impossible for government to live with the problems caused. This we know as it's happened before.
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