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I've had mine for about a week now and it's perfect so I'm going to assume you just got a bad one. Also could you explain to me what exactly is going on in the video you posted because I can't understand what I'm looking at.


Ok, so I removed the o-rings on the deck, and here is the proof. The inner chamber is vastly larger than the deck, so it cannot seal the air properly:



Edit: Makes me wonder if they even try to vape these products before pushing them to the market.
 
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I've had mine for about a week now and it's perfect so I'm going to assume you just got a bad one. Also could you explain to me what exactly is going on in the video you posted because I can't understand what I'm looking at.

Ok, so try this:

1. Take off the o-rings from the deck
2. Place the top cap over it

Now, if the inner chamber seals well over the deck, there should be no play when you put the top cap on. You can see in my video that mine wiggles. If you look closely you can also see that there is distance between the inner chamber and the deck, which means it is leaking (quite a lot of) air.

Another way of testing it is blocking the air holes on the build deck, put the top cap on and see if there is any air coming through.

It would be VERY interesting if you could also try this.
 
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Mine arrived today. Simple to coil and wick, I'm squonking it wide open, works like a champ. For me a much more satisfying draw than on the berserker.

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Mine arrived today. Simple to coil and wick, I'm squonking it wide open, works like a champ. For me a much more satisfying draw than on the berserker.

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That’s great to hear. So you’re not having any issues like mrjohns was having with his? It wasn’t sealing up and pulling lots of air rather than vapor or something to that affect. Mine will be here Monday it looks like and my squonk mod is due on Tuesday so just in time for Independence Day
 

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That’s great to hear. So you’re not having any issues like mrjohns was having with his? It wasn’t sealing up and pulling lots of air rather than vapor or something to that affect. Mine will be here Monday it looks like and my squonk mod is due on Tuesday so just in time for Independence Day

No issues at all so far, apart from not being able to put it down. I like an airy MTL vape (I use the Ares and Zenith wide open too). I just now tested the sealing by closing all the airholes, and I couldn't pull any air at all, so I'm pretty sure mine is just fine.
 

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Here's my build in case it helps anyone. 10 wrap SS microcoil, about 1 ohm, wicked with rayon. Seems very stable for temp control with a DNA75c.

It's easy to install the squonk pin, just unscrew the 510 pin and screw in the squonk pin in its place. I put my finger on the prism shaped piece with the side airflow to the coil (9 o'clock in the picture below) to make sure nothing moved around while I was swapping pins.

Oh, and My Vapor Store has them for $26.99 if you want one quickly from the US.

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No issues at all so far, apart from not being able to put it down. I like an airy MTL vape (I use the Ares and Zenith wide open too). I just now tested the sealing by closing all the airholes, and I couldn't pull any air at all, so I'm pretty sure mine is just fine.

Hmmm... It sounds like you did not quite get the right idea. I guess I am a lousy explainer. I meant blocking all the air holes on the deck, not the outer ones. I stuffed lots of plumbers tape in the air channel under the deck to achieve that.

Here is a (....ty) drawing of the issue:

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So, in other words, a substantial amount of the air is NOT going through the air holes under/beside the coil, but along the edge of the deck. When I blocked all the air holes on the deck I was still able to pull a restricted DTL amount of air through the atomizer.
 

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Hmmm... It sounds like you did not quite get the right idea. I guess I am a lousy explainer. I meant blocking all the air holes on the deck, not the outer ones. I stuffed lots of plumbers tape in the air channel under the deck to achieve that.

Yeah, wasn't so much trying to recreate your test, more just trying to let people know that not all samples were a problem.

The chimney overhangs down to the top of the air inlet in the base, you can just about see the line of where it comes to in the picture below, confirmed by my trusty digital calipers.

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The base of the chimney measures slightly larger than the top of the base (makes sense as it wouldn't fit over if it was too tight), but then tapers in rapidly, so I'm guessing the taper of the "chimney" resting against the top of the base is what supposed to close it off. If you're getting a ton of air in there maybe your chimney or base is out of alignment?

The top all seems to be press-fit construction, and the base is all one piece, so I don't think you can do much other than try and get a replacement. Hope you get something sorted out.
 

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The base of the chimney measures slightly larger than the top of the base (makes sense as it wouldn't fit over if it was too tight), but then tapers in rapidly, so I'm guessing the taper of the "chimney" resting against the top of the base is what supposed to close it off. If you're getting a ton of air in there maybe your chimney or base is out of alignment?

Thanks for input. So if I understand you correctly: You have measured the top of the base (where the visible ring in your picture is), and the bottom of the inner chimney with calipers? And you found the inner chimney to be larger?

If so, would that not lead to a suboptimal airflow, like on mine?
 
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Thanks for input. So if I understand you correctly: You have measured the top of the base (where the visible ring in your picture is), and the bottom of the inner chimney with calipers? And you found the inner chimney to be larger?

If so, would that not lead to a suboptimal airflow, like on mine?

No, I think the taper or curve of the chimney/bell closes the gap. I think the basic design is sound as mine works great. I can't speak with authority on yours but if you are getting excess air in there I suspect yours is misaligned/broken.
 
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No, I think the taper or curve of the chimney/bell closes the gap. I think the basic design is sound as mine works great. I can't speak with authority on yours but if you are getting excess air in there I suspect yours is misaligned/broken.

Ok, thanks, I think I get it now. Mine is definetely not aligned right, as if I take off the o-rings from the base and put on the top cap, it wiggles around quite a bit (like I showed in my video). If it is supposed to be like you describe the inner chamber would fit snug on the base and it would not wiggle even without the o-rings on the base.

Thanks again for responding. Will head over to 3fvape now and see if I can get a refund.
 

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When it finally arrives, i'll have a better understanding what you mean. For now my thinking is, if the o ring is removed, it will have a play...?

So I mean if you remove these o-rings (see pic) the top cap should not have any play. If it has play, then the air flow will be all over the place.

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The Phevanda bell is on pre order now. Remember we spoke about the A1 in another thread (I can't find it now). It looks like a similar concept (airflow) than the Ammit. You might be interested...

Yeah, I have noticed that one. Seems interesting, but I am a little in doubt about wether or not it will do "proper" MTL, or at least at Kayfun 5 levels. What do you think?
 
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Don't know. There isn't any proper pics or reviews about it yet. Can't see what size air channel it has...
The lot that's marketing it, isn't doing the best job of describing it. Hope they aren't the designers to...:w00t:
I basically pre ordered according to a picture...:facepalm:

There are som pics on Fasttech which shows the air channels quite clearly.

Also, there is a (vertical) video from the manufacturer:

 
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Yeah saw that. What baffles me is the shape and size of the air channels underneath the coil. Its not mentioned. That's what makes or breaks a good tight mtl for me...or in your case, a looser one...:p
It certainly is a beautiful thing isn't it? I just couldn't not buy it.
 
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