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<blockquote data-quote="bombastinator" data-source="post: 23664180" data-attributes="member: 43994"><p>No such thing as a totally PG free flavor because most flavorings have a PG base.&nbsp; You can do really low PG though.&nbsp; You can buy them of DIY, which is vastly cheaper or better tasting depending on which you prefer.&nbsp; Myself I maximize cheap.&nbsp; I estimate my vaping cots to be about $20/month which is a bunch less than premix and hundreds less than smoking. VG is cheap.&nbsp; You can get it by the gallon.&nbsp; A gallon lasts me about 6 months or so.&nbsp; VG and PG are used because of their low boiling point, low cost, and long shelf life.&nbsp; There are all sorts of things that can work though.&nbsp; Alcohol has been used.&nbsp; It vapes a bit hot, gets you drunk very briefly (if you use enough) and produces no clouds, which is occasionally useful.&nbsp; Water vapes even hotter (too hot for me) and produces almost no visible vapor.&nbsp; PeG is more expensive and harder to find than PG, but some people that develop PG sensitivities can use it.&nbsp; Still cheap compared to premix.&nbsp; There are a bunch of things that can be used.&nbsp; Basically you want GRAS (generally regarded as safe) and low boiling point (lower than water) VG is what makes the clouds.&nbsp; It’s actually used in fog machines.&nbsp; A fog machine is basically a gigantic ecig.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="bombastinator, post: 23664180, member: 43994"] No such thing as a totally PG free flavor because most flavorings have a PG base. You can do really low PG though. You can buy them of DIY, which is vastly cheaper or better tasting depending on which you prefer. Myself I maximize cheap. I estimate my vaping cots to be about $20/month which is a bunch less than premix and hundreds less than smoking. VG is cheap. You can get it by the gallon. A gallon lasts me about 6 months or so. VG and PG are used because of their low boiling point, low cost, and long shelf life. There are all sorts of things that can work though. Alcohol has been used. It vapes a bit hot, gets you drunk very briefly (if you use enough) and produces no clouds, which is occasionally useful. Water vapes even hotter (too hot for me) and produces almost no visible vapor. PeG is more expensive and harder to find than PG, but some people that develop PG sensitivities can use it. Still cheap compared to premix. There are a bunch of things that can be used. Basically you want GRAS (generally regarded as safe) and low boiling point (lower than water) VG is what makes the clouds. It’s actually used in fog machines. A fog machine is basically a gigantic ecig. [/QUOTE]

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