Getting Frustrated (sorry its kinda long)

[Mezzum]

Jan 1st, 2011, that's when I quit and turned to vaping. Those first two weeks (the time it takes to pick-up a habit, and break one) were tough but I was committed. Not only were the financial reasons more then enough, I got tired of felling I was going to cough up a lung.

Since then it has been a crazy roller coaster. My ignorance of the vaping world was extensive, starting out with a company who started out cheap, and then I saw thire hook.

Since I am disabled, and have time on my hands, I did the research. A whole new world opened up, one filled with terms like PV, Eliquid, Atomizer and cartomizers. Since I was a computer engineer prior to my disability, I knew my way around the Internet. I studied, studied some more, and watched no less then 200 videos until I felt I had a basic grasp on vaping.

Thats where I have been for the last 7 months, now I am an crossroads...

I started Vaping with a 510 carto and some Atomic Fireball juice. My go to juice is the fireball, either for the flavor or the little kick. I Vape 18mg, and have for the past 7 months. I have tried well over 100 other flavors, but keep coming back to the fireball. With that said my issue...

I started with cartos, moved to Attys then to the Ego-T. The LR Ego-T seemed to be the answer, and for awhile it was, then the Ego-T just seemed to betray me. No matter what I do, how well I clean it, whether I used a new Attys and cartridge, the liquid ALWAYS backs up into the mouthpiece, and I get a mouthful of cinnamon. I have watched all the videos, even Vicky's from Cignot, which was excellent, this problem persists.

I just know one of you Vets knows what's going on with me, I have spent hundreds (which on social security I can't afford) trying to get back to my happy Vaping self. After 15 Ego-T atomizer LR and standard failures, my research has come up dry.

I have 6 of the Ego USB 1000mah batteries, countless Attys and cartos including standard, duel and LR, the Ego-T, 510-T and other tanks, I have tried so many juices high nic, low nic and no nic, nothing seems to give me that Vaping experience I used to have when the Ego-T first came out and seemed to work perfectly, I assure you I have exhausted the Ego-T route to my wits end.

There is only one thing in my research I have not tried, and that's high voltage Vaping.

Is this a normal progression? Have I 3.7ed my way into higher volts? Has this happened to anyone else? My wife is completely happy with her 3.7 Ego and the same juice for the same 7 months, meanwhile I struggle.

High voltage Vaping is out of the question, the pv's carry a high premium. If I have too I will stay unhappy with what I have, it's my only real choice, i was just hoping I was wrong I vaped myself into high voltages.

Advice is appreciated.

If your just starting out, stay with it, it will get you off cigs. My story is very unique, my wife and I
started together and she is doing great. We will never go back to cigs.

 

[billo]

Are you using 100% PG ? If so, the T will leak occasionally. If so, add a little VG and make it at least 20% VG. But no more than about 50% VG, since then it may be too thick and cause other problems.

The above totally solved my problem with leaking.

 

[K24A3]

Sounds like you need to crank up the power. Grab yourself a GGTS with AVS, or a VV Mod with a decent carto such as the iAtty or Vision.

 

[nocturn4l3030]

Some people like the Ego-Tanks, but from what I hear is that they're leaky and mute flavors. Their not a true 3.7 volt device neither as underload they perform at 3.3V.

If you're set on the "ego" look, I suggest maybe getting the RIVA that's a true 3.7 volts.. forgot exactly what RIVA model that is and some LR cartomizers or atomizers. The tank method just doesn't work too well on EGOs.

When people are having frustrations with their PVs at the lower end.. i really think mods are the way to go. Alot of mods are all mechanical.. so there's nothing to break internally.. so really the only thing you'll have to be replacing is the atomizer/cartomizers of your choice.

If you really like the tanks.. i hear nothing but great great things about the "liquinator" tank. it's simple and i haven't heard any problems with it.. nothing but just great things. i suggest you youtube it. if you like it, find a great mod to go with it.

gl to you

EDIT: ‪THE NEVER GURGLY VAPE-O-MATIC LIQUINATOR‬‏ - YouTube
Liquidnator Youtube Video

EDIT2: just thinking bout it.. 1) get a reliable mod. 2) find a great brand atomizer or cartomizer. my personal preferance is the Cisco 306's from avidvaper.com For cartomizers, i hear nothing but great things about the Dual Coil cartomizers (all made by the same company no matter where you buy), or Boge cartomizers. I really think if you do these 2 things, your frustrations will be minimized.

As for juice... that is the crappy part. it can get expensive trying to find something you truly like as we all have different tastes. find juice websites that sell sample size bottles.. there's alot of them that do!

 

[OrthodoxAtheist]

Hmm... I know you stated you've exhausted options with your eGo-T but... don't get mad, lolz... have you tried the Type B tanks with SR atty? Though the difference between Type A (smaller, 1ml tanks) and Type B (wider, 2ml tanks) seems marginal, I found it a much nicer experience, and many LR veterans have stated the Type B feels like a LR. I know I used to have to draw harder on my SR Type A's compared to the SR Type B. I've used the eGo-T for 5+ weeks now and never got juice in my mouth. I take slow weak draws for about 4 seconds, let off the button then instantly back on for another 4 seconds, and no sane person would want to draw more. That fills my mouth, throat and lungs with vape. If you're constantly getting juice in your mouth, in my opinion it really does have to be because you're drawing too hard. No other explanation can provide for you ALWAYS getting juice in your mouth (IMO). Before you say I'm on crack, try drawing at half the power/pace... then come tell me I'm on crack and I won't mention it again.

Otherwise... it sounds like you've already done the work to convince yourself to move up in voltage. There are a lot of classifieds on here where you can save some $ on a higher voltage device. Spread the word you want one and then maybe you won't have to compete with those camping out in the classifieds who post to buy whatever appears in under 2 minutes!

Good luck... hope you get back to your past vaping glory.

 

[six]

High voltage Vaping is out of the question, the pv's carry a high premium. If I have too I will stay unhappy with what I have, it's my only real choice, i was just hoping I was wrong I vaped myself into high voltages.
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HV doesn't have to be as expensive as you think. Madvapes sells a 5.0v box mod for around $32 and there are lots of other places with similar devices like the big kazoo from kalimazoo. There are several VV boxes out now. madvapes has a VV box (goes in and out of stock but they make some every week) and it is a very good VV device for only 38 bucks. Smoke Tech has a VV box for not a high price and so far, I'm hearing they are performing well too.

There's a VV add-on for your eGo batteries out now, too. You attach it to an eGo battery and end up with a VV device. It's a little on the spendy side for the moment, but if it takes off and sells well, I'll bet the price drops eventually.

Another option is tube mods. The Maxi Rough Stack is 45 bucks and will do 3.0v, 3.7v, 5.0v, 6.0v, and 7.4v depending on what batteries you want to run. There are lots of other tube mods that can be configured for all of those voltages. The range of pricing on tube mods is about 40 to 225 dollars. In most cases a 40 or 50 dollar tube mod will serve you every bit as well functionally as a 100 or 200 dollar tube mod. -- Even though it is on the expensive side, the megalodon from electronicstix is worth looking at. You can use any of the battery configurations mentioned above and it's new design allows it to use eGo mega and eGo-t stuff natively plus it is friendly to tanks like the MAP tank and the J-Tank

 

[mylose64]

Dear Mezzum,

You did not Quit anything. You simply substituted something for something else.
I like to think of an e-cig like drinking water with caffeine (but tastes fantastic) instead of drinking coke.


(that's my opinion, you can still say you quit! )

I'm totally with you on the tank systems. I bought about 4 tank atty's and each and every one failed in it's own unique way.

E-cigarettes are messy things. I've spilled countless map tanks in my pocket or tasted a "few" drops of liquid from my PV, but all of this just goes with the e-cig experience. Some of these things I've done in public and with people I just met. Talk about embarrassment when you need to ask for paper towels at a party because your map tank "exploded" in your pocket.

You can't fix these things all the time. It's just like getting cigarette smoke in your eye or having the cigarette stick to your lips and when you try to take the cigarette out of your mouth your fingers slide and you burn your fingers. (anyone remember that?)

E-cig's are far from perfect, but the only advice I can give you is stop being tempted by the new products!

I look around my apartment and see all this useless crap that either broke down or just sucked.

I just bought a few carto's and a small auto battery. I'm going back to the old days. I'm not using a map tank or tank kit anymore, at least for now . No more 1000 mah battery for me anymore (at least for now)

btw. I don't know if you DIY, but I strongly recommend it. You have much more control over your e-cig experience, more than any High voltage battery can do.

I thought it was the hardest thing to do, but its a piece of cake. It takes me 2 min to make a 5ml of liquid, my flavor and strength of course!

STICK WITH IT and stop buying so many batteries!

 

[mistinthewoods]

Sounds like you need to crank up the power. Grab yourself a GGTS with AVS, or a VV Mod with a decent carto such as the iAtty or Vision.

Did you even READ the original post??
The OP is disabled and on Social Security and you suggest one of the most incredibly over priced PV set ups on the market?
I have seen a marked increase in the suggesting of GG mods in threads where it doesn't even make sense lately. What's up with that?
Just not helpful man.

 

[mylose64]

Did you even READ the original post??
The OP is disabled and on Social Security and you suggest one of the most incredibly over priced PV set ups on the market?
I have seen a marked increase in the suggesting of GG mods in threads where it doesn't even make sense lately. What's up with that?
Just not helpful man.

I'd personally never dish out that much money on something like that anyways. I would rather get an ipod touch or something with that money! haha.

I don't understand the prices either. So you want 200 bucks.... for... a battery?

Forgive me if If I'm missing something?

 

[benetay]

Now it seems like i hit onto it. Why am i paying so much for a battery when all these suppose to be relatively cheap.

Cheers!

 

[birdbrains]

Man those tanks just sound like a PITA every time I read about them. I'll take any type of cartomizer (dual coils, LR single coil) over anything for ease of use/low-maintenance/"just works"-factor.

 

[malyden]

I have found that vapin with cinnamon liquid can cause issues especially with a tank. So you may want to try a different liquid - I know not what you wanted to hear I love cinnamon but unless I drip I have problems. So you may just want to get yourself a 510 atty and a drip tip.

 

[Mindfield]

I'll be honest, I really, really tried to like tanks. I loved the idea -- on paper. But in practice, they were just nothing but frustration and disappointment once they were "broken in." (Which, for tanks, appears to mean simply "broken.") I went through 7 A-type atomizers (weak flavour, weak TH, little vapor) and 4 B-type atomizers (two ate their own wicks -- literally burned them to ash in about a day -- and became completely useless, the other two, while more flavourful, got gunked up and useless much quicker). I finally gave up entirely and bought some dual coil cartomizers and never looked back.

Some people have been able to deal with them and even like them, and that's awesome, but for me, and for many others, they just weren't working.

Honestly, I would really recommend going with some sort of cartomizer or hybrid solution. Something like the Liquinator with a single or dual coil cartomizer (both are available now), a Sapphire hybrid tank, or something like that -- something that's easy to use and maintain without too much fiddling. I think you'll be more satisfied in the long run.

 

[WalksWithWiFi]

i am going to second the liquinator-
let it be said that i haven't ordered mine yet, though it is in the near future because i am a carto fan-
but it seems to combine the stress free that the tanks on the ego-t were supposed to be with the flavor
of boge cartos(that i love for most juices)-
and it can be used with your ego batteries!(which you have quite a bit of)
so, total cost would be around the 25 bucks of the liquinator.

 

[flbutterfly1]

If dripping is the way to go then maybe a vapemate would help with that. Super T Manufacturing, Innovative manufacturer of electronic cigarette products. scroll down on the page and you can see how it looks with the ego setup. I have also been having the juice in mouth experience or the leaking all over my hand. I have really been thinking about getting a vapemate for myself instead of a different ecig (I use an ego). The pricetag is nowhere near a new mod but since you have so many batts you could get a few atties of your choice and just drip. I really love dripping I just get tired of losing the bottle all the time in the couch or car or wherever.

 

[ancient puffer]

I'm not sure what your disability is, but IF dripping is possible, I'd give that a try (you can take one of your leaky LR tank attys and remove the spike, thus exposing the coil to drip on). If you can do that, and find that you again get a satisfying vape, then you will know the problem is equipment. At that point there are several options, not all of them unduly expensive, e.g., the puck (5v vaping, see http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/106016-how-build-puck.html on how to make one for around $12, if you're handy with a soldering iron), or an inexpensive bottom feeding mod (some are only around $30).

BTW, that link for the puck is for direct dripping, but there is a feeder version as well.

ETA: Don't forget you can sometimes pick up a mod on the cheap in the Classifieds and Swaps forum

 

[wdave]

Jan 1st, 2011, that's when I quit and turned to Vaping. Those first two weeks (the time it takes to pick-up a habit, and break one) were tough but I was committed. Not only were the financial reasons more then enough, I got tired of felling I was going to cough up a lung.

Since then it has been a crazy roller coaster. My ignorance of the Vaping world was extensive, starting out with a company who started out cheap, and then I saw thire hook.

Since I am disabled, and have time on my hands, I did the research. A whole new world opened up, one filled with terms like PV, Eliquid, Atomizer and cartomizers. Since I was a computer engineer prior to my disability, I knew my way around the Internet. I studied, studied some more, and watched no less then 200 videos until I felt I had a basic grasp on Vaping.

Thats where I have been for the last 7 months, now I am an crossroads...

I started Vaping with a 510 carto and some Atomic Fireball juice. My go to juice is the fireball, either for the flavor or the little kick. I Vape 18mg, and have for the past 7 months. I have tried well over 100 other flavors, but keep coming back to the fireball. With that said my issue...

I started with cartos, moved to Attys then to the Ego-T. The LR Ego-T seemed to be the answer, and for awhile it was, then the Ego-T just seemed to betray me. No matter what I do, how well I clean it, whether I used a new Attys and cartridge, the liquid ALWAYS backs up into the mouthpiece, and I get a mouthful of cinnamon. I have watched all the videos, even Vicky's from Cignot, which was excellent, this problem persists.

I just know one of you Vets knows what's going on with me, I have spent hundreds (which on social security I can't afford) trying to get back to my happy Vaping self. After 15 Ego-T atomizer LR and standard failures, my research has come up dry.

I have 6 of the Ego USB 1000mah batteries, countless Attys and cartos including standard, duel and LR, the Ego-T, 510-T and other tanks, I have tried so many juices high nic, low nic and no nic, nothing seems to give me that Vaping experience I used to have when the Ego-T first came out and seemed to work perfectly, I assure you I have exhausted the Ego-T route to my wits end.

There is only one thing in my research I have not tried, and that's high voltage Vaping.

Is this a normal progression? Have I 3.7ed my way into higher volts? Has this happened to anyone else? My wife is completely happy with her 3.7 Ego and the same juice for the same 7 months, meanwhile I struggle.

High voltage Vaping is out of the question, the pv's carry a high premium. If I have too I will stay unhappy with what I have, it's my only real choice, i was just hoping I was wrong I vaped myself into high voltages.

Advice is appreciated.

If your just starting out, stay with it, it will get you off cigs. My story is very unique, my wife and I
started together and she is doing great. We will never go back to cigs.

Well you could just plug your ecig directly into a wall outlet and get some AC going on.

Seriously this is all normal, and you answered your own dilemna

 

[malyden]

That does look interesting but if the OP uses strong cinnamon it may not work for them the cinnamon doesn't always play nice with the plastic. Cinnamon can be corrosive and may break down the plastic rings - that is what the main problem is.

If dripping is the way to go then maybe a vapemate would help with that. Super T Manufacturing, Innovative manufacturer of electronic cigarette products. scroll down on the page and you can see how it looks with the ego setup. I have also been having the juice in mouth experience or the leaking all over my hand. I have really been thinking about getting a vapemate for myself instead of a different ecig (I use an ego). The pricetag is nowhere near a new mod but since you have so many batts you could get a few atties of your choice and just drip. I really love dripping I just get tired of losing the bottle all the time in the couch or car or wherever.

 

[Creniker]

Did you even READ the original post??
The OP is disabled and on Social Security and you suggest one of the most incredibly over priced PV set ups on the market?
I have seen a marked increase in the suggesting of GG mods in threads where it doesn't even make sense lately. What's up with that?
Just not helpful man.

I thought the same thing when I read this 5 min ago and I was going to post about it. Glad someone did lol. Yeah, drop $300 dollars on a mod, you got no cash right?

Anyway agree about the madvapes box mod for $35 batteries plus a charger would bring it to about 60ish but its still pretty cheap. You might need something as simple as a atty change. I know your attached to your tank atomizer, but maybe you want to give some LR atties a try on your 3.7v. Can make a big difference. And if your worried about not having a tank or anything to hold the juice for you, and you dont care that you may look like your smoking pot, then the drip on demand from madvapes paired with the LR atty could go a long way.

And mylose64 your arnt paying for the battery. Your paying for a nice unit. But thats besides the point...

 

[mistinthewoods]

If dripping is the way to go then maybe a vapemate would help with that. Super T Manufacturing, Innovative manufacturer of electronic cigarette products. scroll down on the page and you can see how it looks with the ego setup. I have also been having the juice in mouth experience or the leaking all over my hand. I have really been thinking about getting a vapemate for myself instead of a different ecig (I use an ego). The pricetag is nowhere near a new mod but since you have so many batts you could get a few atties of your choice and just drip. I really love dripping I just get tired of losing the bottle all the time in the couch or car or wherever.

Oh, cheese and rice!
The Vapemate costs 60 friggin' dollars! Also, it is a device for convenience, not a performance enhancer.
OK, I'll quit .....in' about other people's suggestion and make one of my own.
Step up to a 5 volt mod. There's some good places to get a decent 5V box mod at a decent price. Here's one: http://www.kalamazoovaporshop.com/K...uctDetails/tabid/72/ProductID/50/Default.aspx
I happen to know James, the owner of KVS and I think he's a decent, honest guy. I'm confident in sending folks his way.
The mod is $35.00 but you'd need a couple pairs of 14500 batteries at $10.00 a pair and a $16.00 charger. The whole package will set you back $71.00. That's about as cheap as you can get for a higher voltage setup. You'll be increasing your vapor and throat hit.

Oops didn't even read the post above mine. Yeah, another good way to go.