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easyhgf

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I am a new member so I cant post in the GG Forum, but I hope Imeo and GG Users are listening to this.

I have a few ecigs. 901, KR808, Ego, M401, and the BE Penstyle (like the 801 but a bit better i am told).

Out of all of them, the one that gives me most pleasure and is easy to 'smoke' is the last one - the BE Penstyle, (and also the 901+KR808 battery sometimes for the change).

I guess that is for a few reasons. One is that I havent got used to the technique of the others. Two is that the BE was my last buy. Three is that the others may be better but I have got dud attomizers/batteries (this might be particularly true of the m401). But the Fourth and biggest reason, taking away the other reasons of the other models I have being duds, is that I get a sensation of the vapour/smoke being in my mouth with the BE and the sensation of being able to breath it in to my lungs after i initially inhaled (so, two inhales - like a normal cig) and the vapour i get after wards is substantial and the vapout i get before is the most out of all my other models. Five: I recently discovered that the eLiquid is as important as the ecig, and johnsons creek (island or domestic ... i havnt tried the others yet) and the VG version (VG=more vapour), give me a better hit and taste nice. I mix them a little with one of the standard flavours like Highway, RY4 or Hotel to mix the flavour and give it a more real taste (otherwise the Johnsons creek can be a little overpowering on the back of my throat like leaving it sticky).
By the way, the worst ecig i have for giving me an itchy - sore throat and a very unpleasurable feeling is the Ego - it must be the 501 or something. (I smoke davidoff classic or camel filters - so im a heavy smoker).

So, I like the BE the best so far and is the smoothest with johnsons creek almost like a real cig feeling (but the 901+KR setup gives me another equally smooth TH ... but i have to draw much harder then the BE which is why i use it).

So why have i written all this if my title above is about the GG?

Well, frankly ive had enough. Ive had enough of spending so much money of ciggerretes which i havnt been able to give up. I said the BE was the best for me (and for you that might be another model), but its still not good enough to make me be satisfied at keeping it as my original nicotine delivery/smoking method. I still smoke 20 cigs a day or thereabout, but atleast can enjoy some ciggerates-free time smoking my BE (as you might be able to tell, i want to keep the habit ... just not the cost. I do enjoy smoking).

I guess I may have stopped or replaced smoking 2 or 3 cigerates a day by using the BE, but that isnt concious as such, and im not really counting. I like chain smoking, i get in to a good mood, and the fact i can smoke my BE112 inbetween my chain smokes and not have it effect my smoking pleasure (and infact it actentuates-complements the pleasure most of the time when the liquid is good) means i carry the BE around with me, but yet as i said, it does not leave me satisfied as if i had been smoking regular cigs. i.e. i cant chain smoke with tbe BE. I can do maybe a ciggerates (or two or three's) worth of vaping before I go back to an anolog. So my cig intake has decreased a bit, but not really.

So, again, why have i said all this. Because today i cracked it - I really enjoyed vaping my BE between real cigs, but was annoyed it wasnt good enough. i would vape it, feel it, taste the nice johnsons creek, and be content kind of (as opposed to Content with a capital C) and was thinking about the GGTS and wondering if that one could be the one. I am looking for an ecig which i can feel the vapour filling my mouth and then be able to feel that i am inhaling it into my lungs. So far, as i said, the BE has been the only one that has come close to that, but not enough.

So Does the GGTS (and on which volt?) give you that feeling?

I know that vapour is less dense and weighty then real smoke, so it wont ever be exactly the same, but if the GGTS can be better (10 times better mind you - i dont want just twice as good - i estimate that the experince has to be about 5 - 10 times better to give me a chance of really quitting) in comparison to the vapour production in my mouth ON INHALE (most ecigs give you tonnes of vapour on exhale but your left wondering "WTF did i inhale, because I didnt feel a thing comming in !?!?!") then i will get it with all the works no questions asked.

The BE (maybe becuause its a penstyle) has given me a bit of this experience with good liquid (like a little VG johnsons creek island mixed with VG Highway), but im asking How does the GGTS compare with it for the things i just described?

WIll the GGTS give me an easy draw, fill my mouth with vapour i can feel, and then be able to inhale it into my lungs? will it give me that PLUS a smooth vape (as opposed to the nasty-scatchy ego/510) like my davidoff classics do? Or will it be much of the same as most others. I can see myself giving up normal ecigs if i can get the experience i had with the BE today magnified by 10.

Thank you for your advice - a potential GE customer who wants to be told how it is.
 

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Ok, well I can tell you this... I use many style atties and have owned many devices...
as far as penstyle atties I would have to say the BE is by far the best (IMO)

Now as far as the GGTS.. here are the positives of this device

1. you can utilize various model atties 510,901,KR808(cartomizers), and yes the penstyle atties as well... all on one device

2. you can adjust it to fit various battery combinations to get 3.7v,6v, 7.4v depending on what batteries you use

3. the unit conducts great.. meaning you will be applying voltage/current/power to your atty with minimal resistances from the device itself

4. low maintenance device 100% mechanical

5. IMO great draw

6. a beautifully made device

NOW I heard that the price may be lower when the next batch comes out, but it is still considerably higher then your common ecig or ego type batteries.

There are alot of great devices out there and the GGTS is definitely one of them.... and most devices that take Li-ion batteries will put you in a better position then ecig type batteries IMO

So to answer your question... GGTS will increase your vaping experience and has a nice draw, but the recipe that needs to be made for your needs would have to be with the these basic factors



voltage/atty model/and juice all of which you may know already
Hope this helps
 

easyhgf

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Thanks lightgeoduck, i really appreciate the reply. Yep, I might have known that already but its good to get good clarification on it.

with this info, the question I was trying to ask translates this way;

When you have used your BE atty on the GGTS, and when your using one of your prefered eliquids or DIY's, and when youve adjusted for the right draw for you and your using your 'best' voltage, do you get a better sensation then if you were using the same liquid mix on the BEatty+BE Battery? How is the FEELING of vapour, of something substantial, in the mouth for you? Hows the hit in comparison? How is the Throat & lung hit for you when using BE+GGTS (and got the right voltage ofcourse) compared to if you were just using the standard BE/801/RN Penstyle battery on the BE atty?

If you havnt used the BE atty on the GGTS, then how did the experience compare for you qualitatively when you used whatver atty you do use on the GGTS as opposed to using that atty on that atty's battery?

The aspect im interested the most is the feeling of vapour in the mouth and being able to inhale something - something substantial enough as to make up for a normal cig - in the lungs, hold it there - let it linger- and then exhale ... and feel good/get that hit.

Ive heard that there is a ''sweet spot'' voltage which might be different for different people, but usually its X.Y volts (ha ha! I forgot the number, but the forum member with the word 'boom' in his name kinda of gave a figure).

So, when i arrange the batteries for that sweetspot voltage, and adjust the GGTS for my preferred draw (the adjustadle draw is one of the major factors in wanting to get it), and put on my BE atty with my liquid combo (say im using Highway with Red Oak), how much more will i feel the vapour then if i was just using the BE battery instead!?

Sorry for being difficult.

p.s. I knew the features/benefits of the GG (as well as some of the others - notably the Super T if i remember correctly) as you described them, and ive seen some of the youtube vids of the GGTS in action (I especially liked the one where nothing else is being done except that some beachguard looking type person is puffing away on the GGTS looking relaxed on a swivel chair while some austin powers type music is played as the soundtrack - class!) and do like the idea of it - I dont mind forking out the money - (ive spent a bit already) - I just want it to be as i imagine!

Last Thing - I do agree -that vaping is BETTER then smoking (tastier/nice/smoother in most cases). Ive realised that through my own limited vaping these past 5 months, but its not my preferred nictine delivery method because of that lacking-missing factor, which i think ive identified as the vapour substantiality akin to when smoking an anolog.

If I dont get the answer im looking for, ill go for plan B.

Plan B is come back to the forum and the ecig world in 2 years from this date and buy the latest and best mod on the market be that a GG type mod or otherwise (you never know, there may be new attys on the market by then and new ecig types with new nicotine delivery mechanism / smoking simulating experiences. First time i looked into ecigs back in late 2007 there were loads, and the one i got as a present in dec that year was dissapointing. So, 2 years on, this got a bit better, but dissapointingly not enough - i still couldnt believe people were raving about then when they had only improved by a small at best imo. [sorry], So im hoping that something exponential happends, and that by mid 2012 there is something much better on the market )
 

easyhgf

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forgot to add - maybe you can give me a subjective scale.

Right now for me:

BE+Fully Charged Penstyle Battery+good liquid = 8/10 total marks in the ecig world.

but when compared to the analog world, the rating is variable changes and goes down too:

BE+Fully Charged Penstyle Battery+good liquid => Can be 7/10 at best (when im tired and sleepy and watching tv) ... i.e. almost as good as a real cig (but still not enough)

but can also be only a 1 or 2/10 (1 out of ten when walking. I find ecigs a best taken at a slower pace of inhale, activity and require more ''concentration''/''attention'' on the vaping activity itself to properly appreciate it - and when you do its great - i just would want that feeling magnified and more easily-readily accessible even if walking)
and 3/10 (even if sitting down) i.e. my attention rate has gone down and im expecting it to perform like a real cig and taking faster puffs.

even on the 7/10 performance of the ecig when compared to anologs, that doesnt remain at that level

Do you get what i mean?

So, if anyone does understand these experiences or has had then themselves, AND is now lucky enough to have persisted and is a GGTS [or any other similar mod - ive heard people praise thier silver bullets & screwdrivers no end] owner, how is the GGTS on those comparisons?
 

easyhgf

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The Best combo that surpass the sensation of smoking for me is GG AFS V2 with a mod'ed carto and any 6Volt MOD... If you can afford it I would go with the GGTS with the AFS V2 and the carto mod...

Thankyou Rippspeed!

That sounds like a good answer! The/an answer I want to hear! " surpass the sensation of smoking " Thats what i need!

Ok, good the GG AFS V2 or any 6Volt Mod. Good reply, Fair reply.

Yes, I could afford it i think. Its worth it just so to never again have the need to buy a packet of cigs again. Its worth it just to NEVER WANT to buy a packet again becuase what i have is better.
Its worth it just to have the feeling of vaping on my 6Volt device/GG/Mod and knowing that "yes - what i have here and what i am doing now - is better, more satisfying, more pleasurable, leaves me feeling more content, more fullfilled, and gives me a better kick then what you are doing (looking at the analog smoker). " and want to shake all the anolog smokers up and open their eyes to this experience.

So i need: GGTS withe the AFS V2 and the carto mod. and batteries for 6V.

Mod'ed Carto - whats that?

I Will look into it.

p.s. Dont worry anyone! - i wont hold anyones answers to them! - its my choice in the end and plus all opinions are only your own and subjective. I just like getting the opinions and i like it when eventually someone ties their flag to the mast and says 'on fair reflection, this is the truth for me, this is what ive discovered works/is best for me'.

Thank you. (I know, i am mad/insane/sad)

isnt this just the most saddest forum post anyone has ever posted which shows their distinct lack of life? i mean cummon ... "fullfilled!?"

Well, thats the way thing are ... so Nevermind.
 

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What I meant by surpassing the sensation is with that combo theres just soo much more vapour ... To me its like smoking a good cuban ... You have a ton of thick smoke in your mouth and you can play with it or you can inhale it all ... Sometimes its alittle too much for me when I do a double hit ... I cough like a rookie ... LOL!!! Good luck man...

Either way Imeo's products are the best !!! and you get what you pay for... I'm waiting for the new shipment of GGTS to come ... I'm using my GG AFS V2 right now with the Prodigy V3 ... The PS Prodigy V3 is great little mod and its robust ... I've drop it here at work plenty of times on the floor and one the street and it keeps on ticking... Just require alittle more maintenance, but once you have it worked out its DAMM GOOD !!!
 

easyhgf

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i like the 510 and my tornado great vapes out of the tornado

Thanks storm34207.

I have and tried the tornado ... i may have a bad atty or two, becuase its hurts my throat when i use it. Maybe its not for me. Maybe we were different type of smokers to begin with (when i smoke, i smoke Davidoff classic - 10mg or Camel filters, and 20 a day).

Or maybe the liquid your using is better then mine. Mine ranges from 18mg, 24mg, 26mg and 36mg, and all of them never make my throat burn on other atty and battery combo's, but they do on the Tornado. Maybe i have to clean out my atty's (which i did though - soaked in vodka and then boiled in water to get rid of the burnt taste).

Glad the 510 and Tornado is working for you though! Great stuff. :)

Thanks for showing your colours!

pps. you see storm, I too like my BE penstyle, but I dont love and roar about it as if it was better then a normal cig - you see, im a picky sod, and I want something better then a normal cigerate - which is why i wrote this thread - and MY opinion now is, if what you have got isnt BETTER then a normal cig, then you need to go out an buy yourself that which is going to be BETTER then a normal cig or anything else youve tried.

But until that time, I will keep appreciating my BE Penstyle and you too likewise, keep appreciating your Tornado or 510, my friend.

Coz its good to appreciate what youve got

(yes i know, im a crazy dude) .. wacko!! :) :} :eek:D woohoo!!!
 

easyhgf

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What I meant by surpassing the sensation is with that combo theres just soo much more vapour ... To me its like smoking a good cuban ... You have a ton of thick smoke in your mouth and you can play with it or you can inhale it all ... Sometimes its alittle too much for me when I do a double hit ... I cough like a rookie ... LOL!!! Good luck man...

Either way Imeo's products are the best !!! and you get what you pay for... I'm waiting for the new shipment of GGTS to come ... I'm using my GG AFS V2 right now with the Prodigy V3 ... The PS Prodigy V3 is great little mod and its robust ... I've drop it here at work plenty of times on the floor and one the street and it keeps on ticking... Just require alittle more maintenance, but once you have it worked out its DAMM GOOD !!!


How much? where do i order. Cloud9vaping for GG products (im in europe).

The Prodigy is American. I ordered from USA once, and got a huge customs bill and delay.

I want the full pack what youve got. Yes, I thought about the Cuban Cigar analogy when vaping my BE Penstyle with Red Oak Island and a hint of Highway&RY4 on sunday, and its that thought that got me to start this thread in the first place. and yes, i can imagine what you mean. I was wondering to myself, if i get only a tingle of the cuban cigar feeling on the BE penstyle now, what kind of feeling could i get withe the GGTS (which for some reason im drawn too) the AFS system, and another flavour like red oak cherry?

(Hookah cherry which ive tried was nice, so im using my imagination)

So, yes. If i understand correctly your saying buy a mod carto and the GGTS AFS V2 and any MOD (a GGTS or Prodigy or silver bullet) and put them together!?!?!?

I need to find out what a mod carto is !!!?!!?!!!?!?!

The whole deal - how much am i looking at?

Ok, no more questions from me today. Ive got to go. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SINCEREST REPLIES & advice.

Ive got to go (being manic like me) ... but ill be back again ...

:')
 

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How much? where do i order. Cloud9vaping for GG products (im in europe).

The Prodigy is American. I ordered from USA once, and got a huge customs bill and delay.

I want the full pack what youve got. Yes, I thought about the Cuban Cigar analogy when vaping my BE Penstyle with Red Oak Island and a hint of Highway&RY4 on sunday, and its that thought that got me to start this thread in the first place. and yes, i can imagine what you mean. I was wondering to myself, if i get only a tingle of the cuban cigar feeling on the BE penstyle now, what kind of feeling could i get withe the GGTS (which for some reason im drawn too) the AFS system, and another flavour like red oak cherry?

(Hookah cherry which ive tried was nice, so im using my imagination)

So, yes. If i understand correctly your saying buy a mod carto and the GGTS AFS V2 and any MOD (a GGTS or Prodigy or silver bullet) and put them together!?!?!?

I need to find out what a mod carto is !!!?!!?!!!?!?!

The whole deal - how much am i looking at?

Ok, no more questions from me today. Ive got to go. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SINCEREST REPLIES & advice.

Ive got to go (being manic like me) ... but ill be back again ...

:')

Emonty creator of the mod'ed carto mod:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/95711-aff-v2-cartomizers-perfected.html

You basically get a regular carto and put a 1.2mm hole or 1.6mm hole about 8mm from the bottom and put it inside the GG AFS V2 and attach the GG AFS V2 to a GGTS ( if you have the cash for it ... I'm waiting impatiently for VaporKings to have them in stock to order mine) and then enjoy vaping ...
 

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Hi Easyghf

I'm getting myself new GGTS+AVS. Primarily because of AVS, I'm just sick and tired of direct dripping and refiling cartridges, so automatic feeder will suit me just perfectly. The other thing is high voltage and very high voltage vaping. In short, this means double the amount of vapour and on some ocassions also better vapour taste (as it suppose to happen with 901 atty).

Whole deal I expect to be around £200. Depends what you will order with it - atomisers (variety of voltage or just standart?), batteries (same thing), charger for batteries, 5v passthrough...anything else?

So, at the end it may be a nice quote, but the thing is, this stuff put together IS going the provide the ultimate vaping experience possible :) I also like penstyle attys most, but from what I expect, AVS on HV or VHV (that is 6v atty+batts / 7v atty+batts) is gonna knock down any standard penstyle atty for sure ;) About new AVS you can have some read here

Also, have a look on all 3 videos about AVS
YouTube - Smoking the new GGTS AVS PART 1.wmv
YouTube - Smoking the new GGTS AVS PART 2.wmv
YouTube - Smoking the new GGTS AVS PART 3.wmv



And yeah, the website is cloud9vaping.co.uk - you're in London so next day delivery. :D

Currently it's out of stock. Should be with Cloud9 shortly (maybe a week or two aprox.)

Best
/M
 
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