GG safety tested and proved.

[grimmer255]

The point being, is there are already many Mods that use a single battery, but the Modders themselves are learning they MAY have to consider making units that only support "safe" batteries, rather then open themselves up to potential law suits. This is a really new area of both hardware and aftermarket accessories. I like many others here are "end users", and just look at the current market for what we think we may like in product terms. If you are on the marketing end, meaning you design, develop and market a product, you have many other things to consider. There may in fact come a time where you find these kinds of Mods that you bought are NO longer marketed, and will feel lucky that you still own them. Safety has to, in the end be the main consideration. Now that is a huge conversation, since those of us living in the U.S. have many organizations that PRETEND to look our for our safety, like the bogus FDA, but unfortunately, since they are "in bed" with the money making lobbies like the tobacco industry, we suffer from others making decisions on what is really "safe" as opposed to what is really safe. As of this writing, we are still able to choose from various "mod" makers, so the responsibility of buying safe to use products is on US, for now.

I know what your saying and personally I wont buy any device unless I see they have taken all the precautions in case of the present known risks. But using batteries in series that are not design for such a load is a risk of the user not seller. And I think these sights that sell mods that can be used at HV should have a Terms of use and Risks page and then has to click yes I understand before being allowed to pay for the device. Just in case of law suits and protecting the seller. Now if maker did not take the necessary precautions to help prevent incase of such problems then it should be of fault of maker unless the user is taking unnecessary risks.

 

[Mactavish]

I know what your saying and personally I wont buy any device unless I see they have taken all the precautions in case of the present known risks. But using batteries in series that are not design for such a load is a risk of the user not seller. And I think these sights that sell mods that can be used at HV should have a Terms of use and Risks page and then has to click yes I understand before being allowed to pay for the device. Just in case of law suits and protecting the seller. Now if maker did not take the necessary precautions to help prevent incase of such problems then it should be of fault of maker unless the user is taking unnecessary risks.

I'm confused as to what you are really saying? You say you would not buy any device unless YOU see they take precautions? I don't know what you could "see"? These are Mods by people, marketing a product, that does NOT go through any real tests, other then by the person making it, and the people that report back after buying these devices and reporting back. If you feel safe, with this knowledge so be it. I'm going to purchase the GGTS, but I am fully aware that it is a product made that has NO test record, like those of a car maker, like how it performs in a crash test. I know you read the other threads, hope others do as well, and have already seen the potential for battery problems, as well as the designs of the Mods, when and if a battery goes bad on it's own, or a mod in some way short circuits the batteries, I don't believe this is a subject to take lightly, but users can draw their own conclusions. I've also posted about battery chargers, as this is another area of "concern". I'm just getting into e-cigs and mods, so I'm not here to scare anyone, I'm just appealing to intelligent people to read as much as you can, and make the best choice you can, don't rely on others to feed you accurate info, including me. I do my homework for me and my family, and share it as a way of thanking forum members that take the time to answer my newbie questions concerning vaping. I'm NO newbie to batteries, and electronic products. Search my profile for threads you may not have bookmarked for posts I've made concerning some batteries and chargers and safety issues. Knowledge is power!

 

[grimmer255]

I'm confused as to what you are really saying? You say you would not buy any device unless YOU see they take precautions? I don't know what you could "see"? These are Mods by people, marketing a product, that does NOT go through any real tests, other then by the person making it, and the people that report back after buying these devices and reporting back. If you feel safe, with this knowledge so be it. I'm going to purchase the GGTS, but I am fully aware that it is a product made that has NO test record, like those of a car maker, like how it performs in a crash test. I know you read the other threads, hope others do as well, and have already seen the potential for battery problems, as well as the designs of the Mods, when and if a battery goes bad on it's own, or a mod in some way short circuits the batteries, I don't believe this is a subject to take lightly, but users can draw their own conclusions. I've also posted about battery chargers, as this is another area of "concern". I'm just getting into e-cigs and mods, so I'm not here to scare anyone, I'm just appealing to intelligent people to read as much as you can, and make the best choice you can, don't rely on others to feed you accurate info, including me. I do my homework for me and my family, and share it as a way of thanking forum members that take the time to answer my newbie questions concerning vaping. I'm NO newbie to batteries, and electronic products. Search my profile for threads you may not have bookmarked for posts I've made concerning some batteries and chargers and safety issues. Knowledge is power!

What Im saying is the device needs to be made right in case if anything does happen. Like if a battery explodes are there vents. How durable is the device incase of explosion. List goes on from there. Thats what Im saying.

the unnecessary risks are is the user storing there device in a hot car while shopping on a hot summer day. Or is the user leaving the device around heavy machines that could possibly crush the device. stuff like that....

I know there are a few mods in this forum that are well made. Then are a few that are questionable. I think every supplier that sells mods should have a list of things to do and things not to do with these larger battery mods. Yes they are devices that give the user some long lasting vaping time but they need to know what to do in case something does happen.

After reading and seeing pics of what had happen really makes you think. So I think that there should be some standards made with every mod out there. And it shows that the GG was made right for this kind of problem. He took the steps to make sure that his devices exceeds the standards.

 

[Vaughanie]

**** dogs, u just got to hope they can still breath through such selective beeding

 

[vapn]

I'm reaching out for my safer device, it's a gas, no exploding batteries.. I-inhale.

+1

 

[womblebat]

Meh your all wimps sans mist

 

[imeothanasis]

I AGREE, well put. Less models, the more time Imeo can devote to features or improvements. My homework led me to wanting the GGTS as my first and last device for vaping. There may be marketing reasons to offer slimmer, smaller, less expensive, etc. models, but all of the Mod makers do have to consider safety, as this is a very NEW market, and none of these current devices have any regulatory safety guides they have to adhere to in any market so far.

Mark my words, in the next few years this will change, at least in the U.S. We have all read about the lame attempts of the US "FDA", in trying to get their TOBACCO STAINED hands into the cookie jar. If they can't control the "nicotine", they will go for safety standards as the next front to dispute.

nice point about marketing Macta but I dont think like qa seller. I nade the Grant first because people wanted a small device. I put there all my thoughts, and it was my first cig. Then my people wanted a smaller one so I made nano and super nano. Then my friends here wanted the 18650 battery inside, it was a big concern for everyone so I made GGT including all the other models to it because of its sections. Then I deside to make the slim because I wanted to show to some people that I can make the slimmest cig in the market and build like a tank again like GGT. After this, GGTS came on market. It is like the GGT with the telescope system and with many more features like 4 in 1 connector, lighter caps, almost invisible spring, and 5-6 more features that I will show you in less than a week.
I just deside to make the best cig in the world. I started with the best cig in the world when I made Grant and it was that age but competition was big and I want to be always 10 steps in front of all the others. Thats the reason I made GGTS and I will update it very soon.
I dont make marketing, I just listen to my friends here, so if you have any idea please put it on table and we can discuss it friend

 

[emonty]

I'm reaching out for my safer device, it's a gas, no exploding batteries.. I-inhale/I-olite.

Looked at that I-Inhale device, do you use it with e-liquid?

 

[imeothanasis]

I also have protected 3.6V Cr2s that I used on my Grant, and that are for the time being, waiting for High voltage Imeoatomizers . So the Grant is virtually as safe as any other Mod.

As Macta said , I have to consider of many things Mist, one of them is the mah of a battery. Grant is a nice device but the protected cr2 are low mah.

Either GGTS can be like Grant with its telescopic systen, only 3mm fatter. Its not a big diference if you consider what you get with GGTS.

 

[imeothanasis]

What Im saying is the device needs to be made right in case if anything does happen. Like if a battery explodes are there vents. How durable is the device incase of explosion. List goes on from there. Thats what Im saying.

the unnecessary risks are is the user storing there device in a hot car while shopping on a hot summer day. Or is the user leaving the device around heavy machines that could possibly crush the device. stuff like that....

I know there are a few mods in this forum that are well made. Then are a few that are questionable. I think every supplier that sells mods should have a list of things to do and things not to do with these larger battery mods. Yes they are devices that give the user some long lasting vaping time but they need to know what to do in case something does happen.

After reading and seeing pics of what had happen really makes you think. So I think that there should be some standards made with every mod out there. And it shows that the GG was made right for this kind of problem. He took the steps to make sure that his devices exceeds the standards.

As i said already Grimmer I have made 5-6 new features for GGTS. One of them is a security feature. With this, GGTS will be the most safe device in the world. No more exploded batteries Please wait to see very soon

 

[Vaughanie]

sadly my I-inahle gave up the ghost pretty quick, I added the post for a bit of light relief...

 

[Vaughanie]

Looked at that I-Inhale device, do you use it with e-liquid?

I DID almost exclusively use it with e-liquid. "DID" being the operative word. It gave up the ghost after 3 /4 months of solid e-liquid use.

Having said that, I would recommend the device but only for occasional herb use, or for e-liquid at weekends etc. Or if you don't feel that batteries were not going to get any charge on a camping trip, perhaps.

IMHO - It's not really designed for day in day out e-liquid use. Just before the I-inhale broke I was onto a GG Grant (which has lasted and I've used much more).

If you want to know more about the I-inhale, I suggest you contact Kate from the Den of Vipers forum. (sorry guys we have some censorship to contend with here, so I'm not at liberty to be that explicit with my language - pm me if you don't get my drift) who I know is quite fond of this device.

 

[Mist_Of_Joye]

As Macta said , I have to consider of many things Mist, one of them is the mah of a battery. Grant is a nice device but the protected cr2 are low mah.

Either GGTS can be like Grant with its telescopic systen, only 3mm fatter. Its not a big diference if you consider what you get with GGTS.

Yes you're right Imeo, CR2 batteries are still low on Mah and still don't give the Grant the autonomy it needs.

Then the GGTS is without any doubt the correct answer for this problematic situation...And for so much many others.

But imagine that the Grant was the first GG, and look at it today, still more robust, sturdy, secure, and better built than almost anything else you can find on the market.

That's the GG miracle!

Anyone going after a PV have come to realize, that no matter what, when he chooses a GG, he can be sure to have an extra protection, he will not have anywhere else.

And I have lots of PVs and I know the details of their construction, material and assembly wise. And the best renowned too.

No PV matches the GG in robustness and safety. Not even close. That is a fact!

GG is about the best PV by far.

Unmatched in beauty, in functionality, in practicality, and in security.

Truth is we are in a much higher league when we talk about the GG.

 

[vapn]

I still like the CR2 battery even though they are low mAh because they have such a nice mellow 6v vape. I am sure that when we get the new HV AFS iAtties in that will change though. I am not fond of the rcr123 at 6v but that is due to the low resistance of the regular atty on the market today.

 

[grimmer255]

As i said already Grimmer I have made 5-6 new features for GGTS. One of them is a security feature. With this, GGTS will be the most safe device in the world. No more exploded batteries Please wait to see very soon

As I said before in post 103 last paragraph "the GG exceeds the standards"....

 

[Vaughanie]

They dont fit my good friend Macta but thanks for searching. They are cr123A batteries and GGGrant takes only cr2 batteries that are smaller in width than those you found

They'll fit GGStorm, however...

 

[Vaughanie]

Not sure these 3.0 volt batteries will fit the model you are using that blew up, but they will work in the GGTS for 6 volt vaping, not single 3.7 v. But these are about the saftest you can buy, or as others have said, waiting on the 5/6 volt AC wall adapter battery bypass, no batteries, but cord attached, good while at home.

I found and bought these below:

Combo Kit: 6 RCR123A 3.0V 750mAh LiFePO4 Rechargeable Batteries with a Smart Charger

New Chemical LiFePO4 Li-Ion battery
Rechargeable LiFePO4 RCR123A 3.0V 750mAhBattery
Life cycle: 2000 times (Traditional Li-ion: 500 times)

Never explodes or will catch on fire

100% Compatible with Disposable CR123A Batteries
Working Voltage:3.2V and Peak Voltage: 3.6V
Charging cut-off voltage: 3.6V
Discharge cut-off voltage: 2.2V o Please never overdischarge battery below 2.2V/cell o Charge this battery with LiFePO4 RCR123A smart charger.

Capacity: 750 mAh
Maximum discharging rate:< 550 mA
Maximum charge current: <550 mA
Cell's dimension: 17mm Dia. x 34.5mm H.
Weight: 0.6 oz (18 grams).
NOT COMPATIBLE WITH SUREFIRE FLASHLIGHT. DON'T USE THESE BATTERIES WITH ANY SURE FIRE FLASHLIGHTS.

Don't overlook AW batteries perhaps.. beloved in the flashlight forum..

Fenix Flashlights, Cree Q5 LED, Lithium Batteries, Lithium Ion Batteries, Li-Ion Chargers, Leatherman Multitools, Spyderco Knives and more!

 

[Mactavish]

Don't overlook AW batteries perhaps.. beloved in the flashlight forum..

Fenix Flashlights, Cree Q5 LED, Lithium Batteries, Lithium Ion Batteries, Li-Ion Chargers, Leatherman Multitools, Spyderco Knives and more!

True, I read about them, "AW" evidently sells them directly through that forum, seems he has a large following, and does know his batteries. The ones I bought are matched to the charger, which is good since the chemistry of LIFEPO4 cells is different and requires a different charging voltage from those of the Li-Ion 3.8v cells or even 3.0 Li-Ion cells. There is perhaps another charger that "might" work with both types, the "UltraFire WF-138A 3.0v/3.6v switchable dual bay lithium-ion battery charger". Reason I say "might" is I could not find any real "written" specs on this, though one web site said the 3.0 volt side "could" do the LIFEPO4 batteries and the 3.8 volts side would charge 3.8 volt Li-Ion. Since I went for the combo battery/charger deal, I gave up looking any further. For all other sizes, mostly larger, I decided to go with the Pila IBC charger, that uses the correct CC/CV charge, that will not overcharge Li-Ion's, using included spacers and or dummy batteries, this charger will charge all the batteries that can be used in the GGTS as well, except of course the LIFEPO4 batteries, it's more expensive at about $45.00 found online, but seems worth it to be in safety and for prolonging the recharge cycles and in getting maximum battery life. So in the end, I needed two chargers to cover all the sizes and types I was interested in trying in the GGTS.

 

[Stormynights]

True, I read about them, "AW" evidently sells them directly through that forum, seems he has a large following, and does know his batteries. The ones I bought are matched to the charger, which is good since the chemistry of LIFEPO4 cells is different and requires a different charging voltage from those of the Li-Ion 3.8v cells or even 3.0 Li-Ion cells. There is perhaps another charger that "might" work with both types, the "UltraFire WF-138A 3.0v/3.6v switchable dual bay lithium-ion battery charger". Reason I say "might" is I could not find any real "written" specs on this, though one web site said the 3.0 volt side "could" do the LIFEPO4 batteries and the 3.8 volts side would charge 3.8 volt Li-Ion. Since I went for the combo battery/charger deal, I gave up looking any further. For all other sizes, mostly larger, I decided to go with the Pila IBC charger, that uses the correct CC/CV charge, that will not overcharge Li-Ion's, using included spacers and or dummy batteries, this charger will charge all the batteries that can be used in the GGTS as well, except of course the LIFEPO4 batteries, it's more expensive at about $45.00 found online, but seems worth it to be in safety and for prolonging the recharge cycles and in getting maximum battery life. So in the end, I needed two chargers to cover all the sizes and types I was interested in trying in the GGTS.

You are really doing your battery homework. I believe that soon you will be the battery expert here. Vapn is the AFS expert and you may soon be the battery expert. Keep up the good work.

 

[Mactavish]

You are really doing your battery homework. I believe that soon you will be the battery expert here. Vapn is the AFS expert and you may soon be the battery expert. Keep up the good work.

Thanks, I'll just need something to put them in soon!