I have been using an e-cig since last June. I'm very happy with it. A few months ago I got my first Reo. It's a grand. I love it. What I don't love is the performance I get with a 510 atty. They work ok for a while, then they get really awesome about a day before they quit. Or they last 20 minutes. I have finally given up and switched to 801 shortys. I have a 1.8 ohm that freakin rocks on flavor and vapor. I had a 2 ohm that just died a week or so ago. It was great. And it was 6 months old. I never got that kind of performance with an 510. Just wondering if anybody else feels the same.
Given up on 510s.
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I probably use my atties way too long to start with (3-6 months)...but I'm with you. I'm not that fond of the 510s. I use Mini REOs. My mods are all sporting LR306s except for two. One is a LR510 and the other is a Boge 2.0Ω Carto. 
No...you're not alone.
No...you're not alone.
There are plenty of REOnauts who love 801's, including the modmaster himself
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/197464-grand-801-perfect.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/170537-801-reo-grand-what-my-problem.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-801-users-whats-your-preffered-801-atty.html
I flunked 801 101
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/197464-grand-801-perfect.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/170537-801-reo-grand-what-my-problem.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-801-users-whats-your-preffered-801-atty.html
I flunked 801 101
I've not been impressed with 510 attys although I'm new. my cisco 2.0 ohm lr is the only one that has made me happy.
I got my 1.8 801 from Ikenvape. I've been very happy with their customer service. And their products seem to be high quality as well. I've tried a couple of the 306s, but wasn't really impressed.
each atty has its own strengths IMO.
But every atty ha the same weakness IMO Consistency !!
I like almost all attys at first.
510 = easiest to use, and good mix of flavor and TH
306 = takes a bit longer to get used to on a bottom feeder IMO, good flavor and great TH while its working.
801 = even longer to get the hang of on bottom feeder, but has the best flavor going. Even shorts in LR is too cool for me.
901 = pretty easy, good flavor and TH. Need a drip shield to be great though.
The right cartomizer is the most consistent vape out there I think. It may not taste 100%, but you and get 100% TH from them. And it can taste and perform exactly the same for days. Its the only thing I've found that the first hit in the morning feels and tastes exactly the same as the last hit the night before.
The short answer though is what ever works the best for you is great.
Congrats on finding something that works well for your style.
It easy to jump the gun though and think you have the one. If you use the "product" exclusively for 60-90 days and you still feel the same way then you have found the one !
But every atty ha the same weakness IMO
Consistency !! I like almost all attys at first.
510 = easiest to use, and good mix of flavor and TH
306 = takes a bit longer to get used to on a bottom feeder IMO, good flavor and great TH while its working.
801 = even longer to get the hang of on bottom feeder, but has the best flavor going. Even shorts in LR is too cool for me.
901 = pretty easy, good flavor and TH. Need a drip shield to be great though.
The right cartomizer is the most consistent vape out there I think. It may not taste 100%, but you and get 100% TH from them. And it can taste and perform exactly the same for days. Its the only thing I've found that the first hit in the morning feels and tastes exactly the same as the last hit the night before.
The short answer though is what ever works the best for you is great.
Congrats on finding something that works well for your style.
It easy to jump the gun though and think you have the one. If you use the "product" exclusively for 60-90 days and you still feel the same way then you have found the one !
I always have at least one 801 Wood going. In fact I'm having my Paduak and Ebony Woodvils changed over to 801 some time in the next few years. For now I have two 801 Purpleheart Classic Woodys and and Oak/Oak Woodvil 801 that will hold me over. I typically use IKV 801 1.7-2.0 ohm any length tube. Going through my old stasth I found some SLB 3.0, used but cleaned, that DH used when he was using the 801 Pen Style. I'm going to try them on a REO Wood at 5 and 6 volt.
My first three Midi Woods are planned to be 801.
Alice
{edit} Adding.... what Tim said about consistency. Every atty is different from the next, even same production run, and even if hand assembled in USA.
Also, although I have just about every carto in my stash (I went through 9 months of received orders that I had stashed, last night) we haven't really used them. Last month, as a result of several Reonauts talking up the CCV 510 Boge cartos and the 510 Reserectors, I ordered some. DH says he's found his perfect vape with Mini @ 3.7 volt and Boge 2.0. I'm loving the Resurector 1.7 on Grand and Mini @ 3.7 volt.
My first three Midi Woods are planned to be 801.
Alice
{edit} Adding.... what Tim said about consistency. Every atty is different from the next, even same production run, and even if hand assembled in USA.
Also, although I have just about every carto in my stash (I went through 9 months of received orders that I had stashed, last night) we haven't really used them. Last month, as a result of several Reonauts talking up the CCV 510 Boge cartos and the 510 Reserectors, I ordered some. DH says he's found his perfect vape with Mini @ 3.7 volt and Boge 2.0. I'm loving the Resurector 1.7 on Grand and Mini @ 3.7 volt.
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Tried 801's before and honestly not a fan of them. They don't give out the heat that I'm looking for which is why I'm a 306 junky. Since 801's in general give a cooler vape compared to 510's and 306's.
I agree that cartos are more consistent in flavor but it lacks in taste compared to an atomizer. Although consistent flavor can be achieved with an atty as well. The trick is to keep the coil wet at all times. Not to much and not to little which takes a bit of work to figure out.
Which is why a lot of people that don't like bottom fed devices never take the time to figure out. The problem from what I've noticed. It's either they overfeed the atomizer or underfeed it. You have to be in the middle if you really want a good experience with your REO while using atomizers.
The problem with underfeeding is that you risk killing your atomizer. Which sounds like the problem that your having right now. First, you get awesome flavor from your atomizer. You continue to vape past 5-8 draws which will get the coil extremely hot. Then you try to feed it again and it dies on your. This will probably not happen with your first few times doing it but it WILL eventually kill your atomizer since you have just popped the coil. It's the same effect as dry burning your atomizer.
If you do a blind squonk correctly (stopping when you hear the gurgle) than it will be the same as if you were to drip 2-3 drops into your atomizer. Afterwards, depending on how long or hard your draw is, will determine when you will have to squonk again. I usually say about 5-6 hits because I take fairly long draws (4-5 seconds). Which is the exact amount of hits it would take with dripping to have to drop some more in there. As I said before, you should give it a rest after those initial hits before you feed it again.
Do you get less flavor from an atty with a bottom feeder vs. dripping? Absolutely not, it's just harder to determine how much nicquid is actually in the atomizer with bottom fed devices such as the REO. Of course you can look to see the liquid coming out of the atomizer with a regular squonk. It doesn't tell you exactly how much liquid is actually going into your atomizer. There's still juice getting into an atomizer and it will perform the SAME exact way. To say that it's different would be illogical.
Overall, people do have preferences with what atomizers that they like. Some like more flavor and a cooler vape and they will gravitate towards 801's and 901's. While others like more heat and TH while sacrificing a little flavor and so, they use 510's and 306's.
Lastly, make sure that you clean your atomizer on a regular basis. Usually after a day or two so that gunk won't build up on your atomizer coil. Which will effect the overall performance of it as well.
I agree that cartos are more consistent in flavor but it lacks in taste compared to an atomizer. Although consistent flavor can be achieved with an atty as well. The trick is to keep the coil wet at all times. Not to much and not to little which takes a bit of work to figure out.
Which is why a lot of people that don't like bottom fed devices never take the time to figure out. The problem from what I've noticed. It's either they overfeed the atomizer or underfeed it. You have to be in the middle if you really want a good experience with your REO while using atomizers.
The problem with underfeeding is that you risk killing your atomizer. Which sounds like the problem that your having right now. First, you get awesome flavor from your atomizer. You continue to vape past 5-8 draws which will get the coil extremely hot. Then you try to feed it again and it dies on your. This will probably not happen with your first few times doing it but it WILL eventually kill your atomizer since you have just popped the coil. It's the same effect as dry burning your atomizer.
If you do a blind squonk correctly (stopping when you hear the gurgle) than it will be the same as if you were to drip 2-3 drops into your atomizer. Afterwards, depending on how long or hard your draw is, will determine when you will have to squonk again. I usually say about 5-6 hits because I take fairly long draws (4-5 seconds). Which is the exact amount of hits it would take with dripping to have to drop some more in there. As I said before, you should give it a rest after those initial hits before you feed it again.
Do you get less flavor from an atty with a bottom feeder vs. dripping? Absolutely not, it's just harder to determine how much nicquid is actually in the atomizer with bottom fed devices such as the REO. Of course you can look to see the liquid coming out of the atomizer with a regular squonk. It doesn't tell you exactly how much liquid is actually going into your atomizer. There's still juice getting into an atomizer and it will perform the SAME exact way. To say that it's different would be illogical.
Overall, people do have preferences with what atomizers that they like. Some like more flavor and a cooler vape and they will gravitate towards 801's and 901's. While others like more heat and TH while sacrificing a little flavor and so, they use 510's and 306's.
Lastly, make sure that you clean your atomizer on a regular basis. Usually after a day or two so that gunk won't build up on your atomizer coil. Which will effect the overall performance of it as well.
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we still use the regular 510 atty's (from Totally Wicked), back then it was quite a learning curve, but now it goes kinda natural.
even with the VG liquids we use they don't clog up, only the taste deminish after 1 or 2 months of every day use. witch is solved with a boiling-in-water-session and they are good to go again. most of them seem to have a life-span for about 6 months, some even longer, then the draw deminish a bit, still working tho.
major point tho is that the batts needs to be propperly charged, if not the taste, warmth of the vapor and the vapor itself becomes a tat too weak, also the atty starts to clog up in the long run.
have to admit, reading reviews about other atty's it does sound tempting to try something else, coz some really sound that they can give me a better vape, but when i read how easy it is to kill them and how more important it is to propperly feed them, i think, why should i even try. it took me very long to get the hang of these, i quess i'm not ready to give that up yet.
even with the VG liquids we use they don't clog up, only the taste deminish after 1 or 2 months of every day use. witch is solved with a boiling-in-water-session and they are good to go again. most of them seem to have a life-span for about 6 months, some even longer, then the draw deminish a bit, still working tho.
major point tho is that the batts needs to be propperly charged, if not the taste, warmth of the vapor and the vapor itself becomes a tat too weak, also the atty starts to clog up in the long run.
have to admit, reading reviews about other atty's it does sound tempting to try something else, coz some really sound that they can give me a better vape, but when i read how easy it is to kill them and how more important it is to propperly feed them, i think, why should i even try. it took me very long to get the hang of these, i quess i'm not ready to give that up yet.
I love you Alice, you crack me up. I have to open and try everything the day i get it
I have quite a mental picture of your "stash".
Party at Alice's house to try all her "new" stuff !!
To add to my previous post. Don't think I am slamming attys in any way, I think almost any atty can work near perfect with the right technique and proper cleaning daily.
tim, I gotta ask... what is your daily atty cleaning routine? I had been soaking mine in vodka every night, but I got lazy last night and just blew out my 357 and re-primed it and it is working faantabulous today... I didn't know it could get better than it already was.
A red dirt REOnaut!!
A red dirt REOnaut!!
I have been a 510 junkie for a year and a half I still love the 1.5 ohm maybe because it reminds me more of smoking when I enhale. I have tried 1.8 and 2.0 attys but just doesnt do it for me. The 306s arent bad just have to be alot more careful with them where as my 510s are just second nature to me now. Both my Grands and my mini are usually going all day and I try and keep six attys in rotation and clean them every other day with 91% Isopropyl alcohol an hour or two soak then flush them out with water and let dry overnight. Good as New!!!
tim, I gotta ask... what is your daily atty cleaning routine? I had been soaking mine in vodka every night, but I got lazy last night and just blew out my 357 and re-primed it and it is working faantabulous today... I didn't know it could get better than it already was.
A red dirt REOnaut!!
I'm all about the steam cleaner. I like a fresh atty every day (or more). The dirty ones get about 15 seconds each on the steam cleaner and let dry. Boom good as new.
There are breeds of 510's and then there are 510's Lately I have been using the HH-357's with great results for 3.7v-4.2v also the Iken 3.5ohm 510 is a very good 510 and lastly I still have about 100 of the original Eastmall LR510's that are true work horses. These are the only 510's I will use unless someone comes out with one better. I have to say though the 357's are very good once broken in. Also just got some new Hybrids that are pretty good too. As for 306 style Atty's I swear by the iken i06 this is a super Atty too. YMMV on all of them though !
I didn't think so neither and I totally agree with what your saying. With my own post, I was just addressing the OP and giving my own opinion on how I felt about using different atomizers and using them properly.
Since it sounded like it underfed a lot of his atties since it didn't seem that they lasted that long for him. Might help others that might not how to feed an atomizer now that they own a bottom feeder.
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