GLV & The Vision Tank

[Stabbie]

Can we talk about this for a bit? I'm desperately trying to get back into vaping and I found my problem was convienence.
So I hopped back on ECF and did me some reading.
I see a few people mention these vision tanks on their GLV.

I'm using a GLV-3 w/o the feeder. I filled it once back a year ago and immediately set the box aside. Way too big and clumsy for me.
So.....I got me some vision tanks in the mail today. I ordered 1 3.5ml from madvapes and 1 3.5 & 1 mini from gotvapes.
(And a couple of 510 extenders.)

Ok, so, I filled up the two 3.5ml tanks and.........
#1. Does it take a few hours to burn these guys in? I can't take more than one vape every few minutes without the burn taste.
#2. Am I doing it wrong?
I am using the 2.4 and the 2.8 ohm'ers. Should I be modding them with some wire mesh wicks? Fire up the 1.8? Any suggestions?
vaping some 60/40 caramel cappucino from kickbass.

On a side note, the wife bought a pack of smokes during her pharmacy exams last year and while I was waiting I had one of her smokes....and then I had another.....and another and I'll be damned if that wasn't convienent to just light those suckers up.
Yea, yea, I know Jay & Sara are going to kick my .... I screwed up alright?? I'd appreciate it if we just kept this quiet for now.

Thoughts about these tanks and the GLV?

 

[arth_d]

What vision tanks are you referring to. Vivi Novas? Are you on 5V. I use a mini vivi nova on my Supermini and find it works great. When you first try a new wick you really have to let it soak up the juice before going hard on it. Otherwise you can burn it and then it will never taste right. But if you let it get it wet first and then should be all good after that. Even chain vaping seems good on those for me.
I've modded some to mesh wicks and id say give it ago. Flavour is much better than stock.

 

[player30]

WB; we all make mistakes, glad you are back.

My first question is did you fill the carto with juice or just the tank?

 

[Stabbie]

@player30: It's not a cart tank. It's one of the new(?) vision vivi tanks. No cart to fill.

@arth: Yea the ViVi Novas. I did let it soak for 10 minutes or so, gave it a few shakes and then slowly started vaping. Yea it's a 5v'er. I hope I didn't burn it. I'm going to keep at it until tomorrow and see if it kicks in.
If not I guess I'll look into gettng some mesh and trying to mod it. Perhaps with a 5v I need that wire wick.

I might load up the mini vivi with the 1.8 atty and let it soak for awhile and see if I have better luck with that.

Thanks for the replies guys.

 

[arth_d]

Have a look at doing thy hybrid mesh/normal wick combo. Thats what I do they work well.
Vision Vivi Nova V2 SS Mesh / Fibreglass Hybrid Wick Tutorial - YouTube
I use 28ga Kanthal 4 coils gets me like 1.5-1.7 ohm but im in 1.7ohm. If your on 5V you may have to try a different guage to get the resistance up for 5V.

 

[keyzygirl]

I use the Vivi at 2.4 on a 5v and as long as it sits long enough to soak in ,it works fine. Im looking into rebuilding them myself.

 

[Stabbie]

Just for clarity and my sanity...
I'm currently attempting a 5v GLV with:
1 mini vivi nova at 1.8
1 3.5ml vivi nova at 2.4
1 3.5ml vivi nova at 2.8

@Arth: Thanks for the link. One thing that guy did was put a drop of juice right down the center. I tried that and got about 3 phenomenal vapes before the burn taste came back. On all three tanks. It got me thinking that 5v is just too hot for these tanks. But then.....

@Keyz: Yea. I wonder if I simply burned the wicks before they had a chance to soak in. If I could do it over I would have put a drop right down the center tube first. But the 1.8 I let soak for an hour before firing it and no difference. And the GLV has always worked well with almost any resistance cart.
I'm not a fan of rebuilding to such a degree. If they work better with a mesh wick then they should be sold as such. I was thinking one could just buy a mesh wick and slap in there...but that guy in the video was rebuilding the atty with a paper clip. Holy crap.

I guess I'll try two things:
#1. Is there a SINGLE 3.7 volt battery that fits in the GLV-3 tube?
#2. I still have a 2.4 atty unused. I think tonight I'll try to start fresh with it (get your mind out of the gutter, geez) and let it soak and put a drop down the tube. Perhaps I burned the 2.4 & 2.8 with my impatience. I am going to also inspect that center rubber grommet and see if it is closing off wick access.

I'll let you ladies know how it turns out. I REALLY want these things to work for me. It's my ticket back into vaping.

Again, thanks for the replies.

xoxoxoxoxo,
Teh Stabbie

EDIT: Whoa. Jay is building a VV GLV??? Is this true? I can't see that whole thread from work (or the video). Why do I not have one of these things in my hand right now?? He really needs to put that Sara to work so he can get these things out asap.

 

[Stabbie]

Maybe it's my juice. All 3 carts dry burn after 3 vapes or so.
I'm using 60vg/40pg. But I haven't seen any complaints about these not wicking certain juices.

 

[Rafto]

I guess I'll try two things:
#1. Is there a SINGLE 3.7 volt battery that fits in the GLV-3 tube?
#2. I still have a 2.4 atty unused. I think tonight I'll try to start fresh with it (get your mind out of the gutter, geez) and let it soak and put a drop down the tube. Perhaps I burned the 2.4 & 2.8 with my impatience. I am going to also inspect that center rubber grommet and see if it is closing off wick access.

#1 - there is a 16850 3,7 volt battery. I've tried it in my GLV-2 (resistor version) and it gives approx. 3 volts on the output. For me - not enough. However, with the unresisted version it might be good idea. Depends on which version do you own.

#2 - I'd personally reccomend 4 ohm heads for vivi nova. I use them with my GLV-2 (resisted) with vivi nova mini (2,5 ml) and I think that is just right resistance for this voltage.

Geez, I had to post 5 post in new members forum first to give you this answer

 

[Stabbie]

I've never seen the 4 ohm attys for the vivi. Thought there was only 3; 1.8, 2.4, & 2.8.

Anyway....I tried resetting up the tank with a fresh 2.4 and different juice and same results. Constant dry hits. I don't get it.
I guess that's why I got out of vaping a year ago. :/

Someone, somewhere, somehow needs to standardize this mess. I thought this 2 years ago and it hasn't changed one bit.

Jay, build a VV GLV that works with a tank similar to the vivi (that works 100% of the time) and I'll be back.
Not this constant messing around with rebuilding with different wicks, different sizes, an exact OHM, only a certain juice, extenders, yada, yada, yada. That's what keeps the mainstream away....it's a mess. NOBODY knows what to do and/or buy.
If it works best with a wire wick than build it that way. Capesh? People shouldn't be having to mod something they just bought to make it work.
I (nobody) should have to spend 2 days trying to get something to work.

.....

opps....ranted...c'est la vie

Catch you ladies on the flip side. I'll be watching you Jay and your little VV GLV too.

 

[keyzygirl]

Do you do Facebook? We have a ton of groups and vendors that can help figure stuff out. If you want to you can friend me and let me know and Ill add you to some groups,we even have a GLV group now.

 

[Stabbie]

Totally just sent you a friend request thing......I think. I will always be interested in new innovations and ideas.
Things need to be simplified and standardized if the world is ever going to follow. Including me apparently.
I'm going to sit back for awhile and contemplate if I could ever help GLV fuse it all together and take over the world. Jay & Sara have got it going on.

Ugh....I have grandiose ideas eh?
Thanks Keyzy.

-Jeff

 

[keyzygirl]

I added you to a few groups.

 

[Stabbie]

I see that. Thanks! Going to check it all out. I immediately saw some tank that looked interesting.

 

[Rafto]

I've never seen the 4 ohm attys for the vivi. Thought there was only 3; 1.8, 2.4, & 2.8.

I've bought mine at healthcabin.net (link to the product's page)

Anyway....I tried resetting up the tank with a fresh 2.4 and different juice and same results. Constant dry hits. I don't get it.
I guess that's why I got out of vaping a year ago. :/

GLV at 5,5 or 6 volts give just to much power to the 2,4 ohm atty and this leads to this burnt taste because the wick couldn't deliver liquid to the coil as fast as the coil vaporizes it. Same in case of any atty with standard or low resistance.
If you want to use 2,4 atty, use 3,7 volt 16850 battery I've mentioned (providing that you have unresisted version of GLV) or two stacked 3,0 volt CR-123 batteries (in resisted version). The option with stacked 3,0 volt batts and resistor gives approx 4,2 - 4,5 volt at the output.

Someone, somewhere, somehow needs to standardize this mess. I thought this 2 years ago and it hasn't changed one bit.

C'mon, it's quite easy

Jay, build a VV GLV that works with a tank similar to the vivi (that works 100% of the time) and I'll be back.

He had done it. These are all the 3,7 volt GLV's. They're perfect match for 2,4 ohm vivi heads

 

[Stabbie]

I may be impatient but I'll be damned if I'm not stubborn.
Still working on these tanks.

I think it must be my juice. Past few nights I have taken all 3 apart, moved wicks, did this, did that, changed attys, tightened this, loosened that, yada, yada, yada.

All of my juice is dark flavors at 60vg/40pg...as I mentioned before.

I had one of the tanks with a 2.4 atty working pretty well last night for about 20 minutes. I was super excited. I went upstairs to share it with the wife....annnndddd....it started dry burning again and never let up no matter what I did.

Think I'm going to borrow some 50/50 lighter colored juice from my buddy here at work and give it one more go tonight.

I used up my monthly 40$ ecig allowance buying these tanks. So I think Jay should send me a free VV GLV prototype.
That makes sense right??

xoxoxoxoxo,
Teh Stabbie

 

[keyzygirl]

I remember reading about thicker juices in the Vivi and someone said to notch the rubber cap just above the wicks to allow more liquid to flow. Maybe try that. It cant hurt,might help. Just a tiny cut though,not much.

 

[Stabbie]

Vaping some 50/50 banana cream pie with the 2.4 atty and my 3.5 vivi nova.
It works!
Not only that, but it works great!
I also found that if I take a vape that almost seems like the next vape will be dry I will give it just the tiniest bit O' suction and the juice wicks right into the coil.

Plus, comparing it to my friend's iGo cart vaping the same juice.....these tanks are MUCH better tasting and hit.

I'm happy and will be looking to restock my juice (all of my juice is over a year old anyway) and re-equipping my GLV's with these tanks.
Time to find out how to get some juice from psychodrops.

So....um....welcome to the flip-side I guess.

xoxoxoxoxoxo,
Teh Stabbie

 

[keyzygirl]

YAY!!!! Im so glad its working for you! I knew you would figure it out.

 

[Rafto]

It works!
Not only that, but it works great!

I guess it looks quite alike to my GLV-2 with Vivi Rebuildable Tank (link). It looks like some kind of steampunk machine

I'm happy and will be looking to restock my juice (all of my juice is over a year old anyway) and re-equipping my GLV's with these tanks.

Maybe try Hangsen's PG liquids. I use it in all my Vivi Tanks and they seldom give the dry hit. My favourite tastes are watermelon, green tea an cherry cigar.

I'm also glad you've worked it out