Go-Go Specific: Thread for All things Go Go

[mohawkx]

Thanks. Really like the idea of these large carto's, and I've been at this game long enough to know there would be some kind of a catch lol. I'll give my first carto a good cleaning tonight with some vodka, and see how it goes.

Cleaning Gocarts is very easy. First get some red cocktail straws from your local bar. Remove cap from carto and wet under running water. Remove the filler using a pair of needle nose or equivilent. Carefully unroll the filler leaving the cotton material and polyfil intact. Wash the filler thoroughly under hot water. Wash the bare carto under hot water. shake any excess water from the bare carto. place in oven for 30 min at 200 degrees to dry. Remove carto from oven and dry burn until you see the cherry red glow of the coil.(Now you know you have a good clean, working carto) Rinse bare carto one more time to remove any ash or residual that was burned off during the dry burn. Roll the still wet fabric and polyfil tightly around the cocktail straw towards the middle. Insert the cocktail straw over the center tube of the carto. Slide the re-rolled filler down the cocktail straw until it seats at the bottom of the carto. Remove straw and lightly fluff and tamp the filler around the center tube until it is evenly distributed in the carto. Let dry for 24 to 36 hrs depending on local humidity. You now have a basicly new, clean carto.

Variations.
some do not remove the filler and use an ultrasonc cleaner and just throw the cartos in the cleaner of preference(mouthwash, vodka or just boiling water) and cycle the ultrasonic cleaner 4 or 5 times to clean the carto and report good results.

Some just clean the cartos according to the gogo user guide and bake dry and report good results.

Myself I prefer a mix. I prefer removing the filler and hand washing it. And putting the bare carto in the ultrasonic cleaner for 5-3minute cycles using hot water. I then oven dry for 30 min and do a dry burn, reinstall the wet filler and let sit for 24 hours. They come out brand new and I know I have a nice hot, clean coil. I'm still using the original cartos I filled 8 weeks ago.

Good luck.

 

[Devonmoonshire]

Just got finished watching the review by Cozzicon, and while I do put a lot of stock in the reviews published by Cozzicon, I must agree that this particular review did fall short of the mark on an actual review of the "Product Functionality" it seem that the review was done with the upset emotion still having great prevalence over the topic of discussion. I do like that you did re-iterate many times that "This is a good E-Cig" and I appreciate that because that is a true fact about the Go Go, it is a Great Product. To be perfectly honest, I saw the manual in the package I received and did not so much as open it even once. Nor have I since watching the review. I learned everything I needed to know about using this product here and in the additional information sheet that accompanied the product.

I will agree that if the manual makes health statements then that in and of itself is dangerous water to tread on in this industry, especially given the FDA's stance on the products themselves now as a "Tobacco Product". Perhaps the manual should indeed be rewritten to omit these statements for products shipped to the U.S. Market.

Overall though I believe a review of the product itself As An Ecig should be kept to it's ability to function and ease of use. Not based on a single incident such as the reviewer experienced. Every techno product has lemons, that is the nature of the game when it comes to a mass produced product.

That's my 2 Cents on it and please understand I still regard Cozzicon reviews as a Huge influence on my decision to purchase or not to purchase an E Cig.

Nate aka Darth Vapor

 

[uba egar320]

Cleaning Gocarts is very easy. First get some red cocktail straws from your local bar. Remove cap from carto and wet under running water. Remove the filler using a pair of needle nose or equivilent. Carefully unroll the filler leaving the cotton material and polyfil intact. Wash the filler thoroughly under hot water. Wash the bare carto under hot water. shake any excess water from the bare carto. place in oven for 30 min at 200 degrees to dry. Remove carto from oven and dry burn until you see the cherry red glow of the coil.(Now you know you have a good clean, working carto) Rinse bare carto one more time to remove any ash or residual that was burned off during the dry burn. Roll the still wet fabric and polyfil tightly around the cocktail straw towards the middle. Insert the cocktail straw over the center tube of the carto. Slide the re-rolled filler down the cocktail straw until it seats at the bottom of the carto. Remove straw and lightly fluff and tamp the filler around the center tube until it is evenly distributed in the carto. Let dry for 24 to 36 hrs depending on local humidity. You now have a basicly new, clean carto.

Variations.
some do not remove the filler and use an ultrasonc cleaner and just throw the cartos in the cleaner of preference(mouthwash, vodka or just boiling water) and cycle the ultrasonic cleaner 4 or 5 times to clean the carto and report good results.

Some just clean the cartos according to the gogo user guide and bake dry and report good results.

Myself I prefer a mix. I prefer removing the filler and hand washing it. And putting the bare carto in the ultrasonic cleaner for 5-3minute cycles using hot water. I then oven dry for 30 min and do a dry burn, reinstall the wet filler and let sit for 24 hours. They come out brand new and I know I have a nice hot, clean coil. I'm still using the original cartos I filled 8 weeks ago.

Good luck.

Thanks dude. I've been itching to revive my first igo carto. I knew there was going to be a goo method or two floating around the forum somewhere. The fact that I can fill once a day is just a winner for me. At 3 bucks a pop the cartos aren;t that expensive, but a few of them have been hit and miss. I'm hoping this cleaning method takes care of the problem. Thanks again.

 

[mohawkx]

I know I'm stepping in it here- but you guys that are buying these things need to push your suppliers to remove the manual from the product mix.

Seriously. You should be rolling over in anger over those statements in the manual. They have legal implications that affect all vapers.

Also, since the unit is not my property, I am not at liberty to tear the init apart to find out the coil is at the bottom. Additionally, the coil in the bottom may make no difference to a filler burning issue.

The hair is a serious issue too. But it's probably (hopefully) not common.

I'm addressing this directly because I *like* the Go-Go. But given the recent FDA decisions, how many of you would read that manual, or get a hair in a carto, without addressing it? In many ways it seems to me, that minimizing the issues raised by the review, through simply criticizing the review for a minor technical inaccuracy, is dishonest.

It's not religion. It's just an e-cig.

But for completeness- you have my apology for not addressing the coil location accurately.

I appreciate you taking the time and giving the gogo your attention. I'm disappointed that the human contaminent got in the product. Murphy's Law at it's finest.

All of us gogo users are very aware of the shortcomings of the manual that came with the product. We immediately barnstormed the issue and came up with a comprehensive "Gogo User's Guide" and have been directing all new users to that guide. It is in this sub forum if you want to take a look. FRankly, I'm rather surprised you didn't even look at it in the course of your status as official reviewer. Seems the least you could have done is mention that an alternate user's guide is out there.

Might I be so bold as to suggest to you that you give the gogo a second review. This time concentrating on quality of flavor, vapor and TH. Also ease of use, trouble free maintenence and the superior qualities of the unique horizontal coil design. I just posted a comprehensive cleaning procedure for the gocarts. Try doing that with a standard vertical coil cartomizer.

If you need, I will send you one of my kits and some gocarts for your review.

With all due respect, Mohawk

 

[cozzicon]

I just thought it was poor review and yes it is not a religion. It is just an e-cig but I think that is how you conducted your review instead of doing a little research on what you are reviewing. Video reviews have an enormous amount of power among new users and can have a lot of effect on suppliers and their livelihood. Just like you will never buy a Go-Go, I doubt I will ever take your reviews seriously.

Actually, I think you were offended that your favorite PV got a less than stellar review. I can understand that perspective.

In the larger scheme of things, you may want to contact your vendors and ask that that manual be removed. That is my point.

My reviews have a lot of work put into them. It's your call if you do not take me, or my reviews seriously. However, when I receive criticism, like not knowing the coil location- I simply apologize and do better the next time.

I hope your attitude is the same

Be well.

 

[cozzicon]

I appreciate you taking the time and giving the gogo your attention. I'm disappointed that the human contaminent got in the product. Murphy's Law at it's finest.

All of us gogo users are very aware of the shortcomings of the manual that came with the product. We immediately barnstormed the issue and came up with a comprehensive "Gogo User's Guide" and have been directing all new users to that guide. It is in this sub forum if you want to take a look. FRankly, I'm rather surprised you didn't even look at it in the course of your status as official reviewer. Seems the least you could have done is mention that an alternate user's guide is out there.

Might I be so bold as to suggest to you that you give the gogo a second review. This time concentrating on quality of flavor, vapor and TH. Also ease of use, trouble free maintenence and the superior qualities of the unique horizontal coil design. I just posted a comprehensive cleaning procedure for the gocarts. Try doing that with a standard vertical coil cartomizer.

If you need, I will send you one of my kits and some gocarts for your review.

Absolutely. But the re-review would say same things, with the additional information on the coil. I can tell you upfront that it will review well. I've already said it's a fine e-cig.

The original review however will stand.

My reasoning for doing the review in this manner has to do with the seriousness of the two issues. I knew when I released it some people would be offended. And I don't think that vendors or new users are hurt by an honest upfront addressing of my full experience with the unit. In fact the vendors need a kick to remove that manual.

However, human body matter in a carto, or a FDA irritating manual are things that need to be hit hard in todays reviews. This is my feeling from seeing the industry as a customer and consultant.

Too often reviewers softball the items they get. And these two issues... there's no way to soft ball them.

 

[GoAskAl]

Basically a poor review in my opinion. The hair and the manual got most of the attention. He didn't have a clue about the design of the carto or how long they would last which is the main thing regarding the Go-Go.

I totally agree... It didn't even start off as a review it was a comparison between the Go-go and the Ego and a bad one at that. One vapor test does not provide a comparison or a review of a product. He states the Ego had a freshly charged battery but does not say the same about the Go-go. Were both the carts brand new and filled with the same juice? Who knows? What was the flavor and th like? Again who knows? He states that in his experience (with other products) that the cart will loose its flavor/vapor as it gets empty but as a reviewer he came right out and said that he did not time to use one completely to find out for sure? But isn’t that the purpose of a so called “review” of a product, especially a new product? He then contradicts his first statement by saying that the Ego does the opposite and has less vapor when it’s full and gets better as it empties. Then tells you to, “pick your poison it’s going to be one or the other”, really? He talks about past experience with burnt carts and calls it an issue. An issue with what the other carts he used? How can it be an issue with the Go-go cart as he hasn’t had the issue with Go-go cart.

I don’t know I could go on and on but that video was about as far from a “review” of a product as you can get IMHO.

 

[cozzicon]

Well- I guess based on what I'm seeing here, that a discussion of the issues surrounding this unit isn't going to happen without me being a scapegoat.

So I'll leave this for you guys, and exit gracefully like a gentleman.

It's a good e-cig. I think the review stands on it's own. I am sorry if folks had their feelings hurt.

Be well.

 

[txtumbleweed]

Actually, I think you were offended that your favorite PV got a less than stellar review. I can understand that perspective.

In the larger scheme of things, you may want to contact your vendors and ask that that manual be removed. That is my point.

My reviews have a lot of work put into them. It's your call if you do not take me, or my reviews seriously. However, when I receive criticism, like not knowing the coil location- I simply apologize and do better the next time.

I hope your attitude is the same

Be well.

I'm not offended at all. If I was the supplier with my name on the PV I would be offended. I have my two sets of Go-Gos and 30 cartos so I'm set if the supplier went out of business tomorrow or they quit making them. I know how well they work and someone vaping on one cart isn't going to affect me one way or another but it will affect someone that is considering buying one. I just think you should do a more through job researching a PV before reviewing them. Actually I think you are offended by a negative review of your review. lol I don't think you are alone in this regard by the way, of not researching the product before re-viewing them, it is the norm among most reviews I've seen.

 

[DocRocz]

From my perspective the harshest criticize of your review would be that it comes off as being totally emotion based.
You end it with: "This is a great e-cig and I'll never buy one. This is a loose.". So, is it great or is it a loose? The ending comes across as being rather hypocritical and extremely emotionally biased. I would think that reviews need to be factual based, not emotionally charged.
Just my perception of the review.
Is the Go-Go perfect? No! I have one and it's my first and even as a newbie I know there is something better, but given all the short comings of other e-cigs I see it does just fine and competes very well with the others.

 

[mohawkx]

Absolutely. But the re-review would say same things, with the additional information on the coil. I can tell you upfront that it will review well. I've already said it's a fine e-cig.

The original review however will stand.

My reasoning for doing the review in this manner has to do with the seriousness of the two issues. I knew when I released it some people would be offended. And I don't think that vendors or new users are hurt by an honest upfront addressing of my full experience with the unit. In fact the vendors need a kick to remove that manual.

However, human body matter in a carto, or a FDA irritating manual are things that need to be hit hard in todays reviews. This is my feeling from seeing the industry as a customer and consultant.

Too often reviewers softball the items they get. And these two issues... there's no way to soft ball them.

Agreed then. A re-review of the product mentioning the fact that a comprehensive Gogo User's Guide was posted and is the standard reference for new users of the Gogo. Also a more comprehensive review of the unique qualities of the horizontal coil design and the flexibility inherent in the cartomizer. Also a comparison of taste, vapor and TH against other PVs wouldn't be bad either. Be honest, but be fair. IMO in your first review, you overlooked the quality of the Filet Mignon because you got distracted by the fly in your soup.

Don't let the negative comments get under your skin. You're a reviewer after all and one needs a thick skin to stand behind their opinions.

PM me with where to send a kit and some cartos and I'll ship them out ASAP.

Thank you for your attention in this matter. Your opinions matter and we would just like an even playing field and not let hair or crappy manuals getting in the way of an honest review of the PERFORMANCE of a product that is generally highly regarded by it's owners.

 

[cozzicon]

Agreed then. A re-review of the product mentioning the fact that a comprehensive Gogo User's Guide was posted and is the standard reference for new users of the Gogo. Also a more comprehensive review of the unique qualities of the horizontal coil design and the flexibility inherent in the cartomizer. Also a comparison of taste, vapor and TH against other PVs wouldn't be bad either. Be honest, but be fair. IMO in your first review, you overlooked the quality of the Filet Mignon because you got distracted by the fly in your soup.

Don't let the negative comments get under your skin. You're a reviewer after all and one needs a thick skin to stand behind their opinions.

PM me with where to send a kit and some cartos and I'll ship them out ASAP.

Thank you for your attention in this matter. Your opinions matter and we would just like an even playing field and not let hair or crappy manuals getting in the way of an honest review of the PERFORMANCE of a product that is generally highly regarded by it's owners.

What your asking for here- is a puff piece.

I'm not doing it.

First of all, your online user guide isn't what's in the box. I'm concerned about what is in the box.

Second, the unique "qualities" of a horizontal coil design- are what you want me to say about the unit. I'm the reviewer- I get to put out my own opinions.

Third, flavor taste and throat hit are things that I generally do not cover in any review. I don't do juice reviews. I only comment on things that either work for me or do not. The Go-Go works.

Fourth, my reviews will never be colored by the opinion of a group of "owners".

I've already given it a positive review sans the hair and manual. You are not going to get me to say what *you* want me to say.

My suggestion is, that you go do a review, and say what you want to say. But my opinions are my own.

 

[NC_Fog]

First of all as a newbe to the ECF family and also to vaping, I just wanted to share my honest opinion of this review. I don't want this to come off an an attack or an insult. I'm here to make friends and share experiences not make enemies. That being said...

My opinion of this review is as to it's marketing and quality control by the manufacturer. Very valid points are made pertaining to the way the owners manual is written and hair contamination on the cart.

I would however like to see a part 2 that reviews the construction, throat hit, vapor production, and other qualities of the Go-go itself and in that how it stacks up to other PV's in it's category.

I myself chose the Go-go because I wanted something simple, large juice capacity, and long battery life. I wasn't looking for another hobby...I have enough of them. After reading the numerous praises here, I bought 2 of them. Best decision I could have made.

Overall I would just say that the review isn't complete, that's all. Just to throw it down and say lose isn't really doing justice for an otherwise great product.

Thanks,

Marty

 

[GoAskAl]

What your asking for here- is a puff piece.

I'm not doing it.

First of all, your online user guide isn't what's in the box. I'm concerned about what is in the box.

Second, the unique "qualities" of a horizontal coil design- are what you want me to say about the unit. I'm the reviewer- I get to put out my own opinions.

Third, flavor taste and throat hit are things that I generally do not cover in any review. I don't do juice reviews. I only comment on things that either work for me or do not. The Go-Go works.

Fourth, my reviews will never be colored by the opinion of a group of "owners".

I've already given it a positive review sans the hair and manual. You are not going to get me to say what *you* want me to say.

My suggestion is, that you go do a review, and say what you want to say. But my opinions are my own.

You are missing the point entirely… We are (at least I’m not) looking for a “puff” piece but an actual review of the product. Should your opinion of the manual be part of the review? Absolutely. Should your finding a hair caught between the metal cart and the paper wrapper be part of the review (they no longer wrap them FYI)? Absolutely. But where’s the review? How long does the battery last? How long does the cart last? Does the battery maintain it voltage throughout the charge? How is the taste (in your opinion)? What is the difference between this product and the others out there? You showed the difference between the batteries what about the rest? You mentioned in the review what others have said but I thought this was “your” review?

If I didn’t already own the product after watching your review I wouldn’t know how many batteries it came with, if it came with a charger or how long it takes to charge the battery. Does it come with carts? I mean come on I couldn’t even come close to making a decision whether to buy or even consider buying the product after watching that review.

For years I reviewed software for a living and I would have been fired for not doing my due diligence and due diligence is all we are looking for in a review. Does it take time? It sure does but if you want to do it right you have to put in the time. I haven’t watched any of your other reviews so maybe this is your norm and maybe it’s the norm for the industry. I surely hope not.

 

[cozzicon]

You are missing the point entirely… We are (at least I’m not) looking for a “puff” piece but an actual review of the product. Should your opinion of the manual be part of the review? Absolutely. Should your finding a hair caught between the metal cart and the paper wrapper be part of the review (they no longer wrap them FYI)? Absolutely. But where’s the review? How long does the battery last? How long does the cart last? Does the battery maintain it voltage throughout the charge? How is the taste (in your opinion)? What is the difference between this product and the others out there? You showed the difference between the batteries what about the rest? You mentioned in the review what others have said but I thought this was “your” review?

If I didn’t already own the product after watching your review I wouldn’t know how many batteries it came with, if it came with a charger or how long it takes to charge the battery. Does it come with carts? I mean come on I couldn’t even come close to making a decision whether to buy or even consider buying the product after watching that review.

For years I reviewed software for a living and I would have been fired for not doing my due diligence and due diligence is all we are looking for in a review. Does it take time? It sure does but if you want to do it right you have to put in the time. I haven’t watched any of your other reviews so maybe this is your norm and maybe it’s the norm for the industry. I surely hope not.

That my friend... is why there are multiple reviewers.

I'm not doing an advertising piece.

I'm sorry you didn't get what you wanted from the video. I covered the issues I felt were the most important.

 

[Devonmoonshire]

Ya know, Cozzicon is not going to change his review nor does he have to. That being said, anyone who is serious about researching a product is going to look to more than one review to formulate their decision. There is also an abundant amount of positive feedback here and on other forms concerning the Go Go in question so if anyone was seriously searching for information on it they would have no trouble finding a good supply of information. If they are not lazy or conspiracy theorists they will also read how We, The Users Of The Go Go have also found solutions ourselves to the minor problems associated with this and pretty much every other PV I have seen on the market and realize we have brought these issues to the attention of the retailers who in turn brought them to the manufacturers.

So lets all take a deep breath and relax a bit okay please. Things do not need to be abusive or get blown out of proportion, if anything at all I have learned here it is how to keep my emotions in check. I started off here with a very bad temper and regulating that is essential here to keep things honest and fair to all concerned. Besides drawing attention to this issue is only going to draw more attention to what we don't want publicized.

Thanks
Nate aka Darth Vapor

 

[cozzicon]

Ya know, Cozzicon is not going to change his review nor does he have to. That being said, anyone who is serious about researching a product is going to look to more than one review to formulate their decision. There is also an abundant amount of positive feedback here and on other forms concerning the Go Go in question so if anyone was seriously searching for information on it they would have no trouble finding a good supply of information. If they are not lazy or conspiracy theorists they will also read how We, The Users Of The Go Go have also found solutions ourselves to the minor problems associated with this and pretty much every other PV I have seen on the market and realize we have brought these issues to the attention of the retailers who in turn brought them to the manufacturers.

So lets all take a deep breath and relax a bit okay please. Things do not need to be abusive or get blown out of proportion, if anything at all I have learned here it is how to keep my emotions in check. I started off here with a very bad temper and regulating that is essential here to keep things honest and fair to all concerned. Besides drawing attention to this issue is only going to draw more attention to what we don't want publicized.

Thanks
Nate aka Darth Vapor

Nate- thanks for that.

What people don't seem to get it that I review things like a person opening the box. From the standpoint of a customer. As a customer I was deeply displeased with this unit for two specific reasons.

That doesn't take away from the fact that it is a good PV. Which I've now said for a 5th time here, and 5 or so times in the actual review.

Again- thanks for your nice level headed comments.

 

[Devonmoonshire]

Okay, So I received my Gen 2 Cartomizers in the mail yesterday and although I have many Gen 1 carts left of the original ten even after a month I still have several unopened gen 1's. So me being the curious person I am I could not wait to use the remaining gen one's before opening up a gen 2 because with as long lasting as these things are,(Yes all of my month old cartomizers are still in great working order save the two I dissected for curiosities sake), that could take months and months of waiting. So I filled one, yes it took a full 3 ml of juice. That was last night at approximately 6pm pacific time. Well here it is 242 Pm the next day and I still have not topped it off,(as I want an honest assessment of how long they will last), and it is still providing very full and flavorful Fog Banks of vapor. It is my opinion that the gen 2's are actually producing slightly more vapor than the gen ones did honestly. Another quality I like about them is that the center tube is a bit longer allowing for easier filling. To add to that the Painted surface rather than paper tape wrapping is also a HUGE! plus in my book.

Overall first 24 impression... They have taken our suggestions as users and ran with it to make this a better product! Great Job all the way around to everyone involved to include Cigeasy, NHaler, all of the dedicated users here on ECF and a couple other forums and Kanger the manufacturer of the product.

Nate aka Darth Vapor

 

[Devonmoonshire]

Nate- thanks for that.

What people don't seem to get it that I review things like a person opening the box. From the standpoint of a customer. As a customer I was deeply displeased with this unit for two specific reasons.

That doesn't take away from the fact that it is a good PV. Which I've now said for a 5th time here, and 5 or so times in the actual review.

Again- thanks for your nice level headed comments.

It is my pleasure Sir, I have referenced several of your reviews on PV's as this has become somewhat of a collecting thing for me now because I do very much enjoy the vaping experience. One ting I learned early after being chastised by a moderator for being rude to someone is that Opinions in this industry vary and everyone is entitled to their opinion, however that being said, rudeness and disrespect for anyone's opinion is not only disruptive to the topic at hand, it is also abusive at times and last I checked online abuse is still abuse. Here in Cali I have heard, never witnessed personally, but heard of people actually being arrested for online abuse. There is no call for it and I will not say anything here that I would tink twice about saying to someones face should they be standing right in front of me. No Doubt that I will stand behind this product 100%, but I will also do so in a professional and polite manor.

You are very welcome Cozzicon

Nate aka Darth Vapor

 

[Rsbernie]

Well the review will just silly. It is not a perfect PV but I got 2 and I use them daily. You have to remember it comes from China where quality control is not perfect. Cigeasy i am sure does not open every package of cartos. I say buy it is tastes good and lasts and lasts and lasts. Just my opinion of someone who has used it daily for over a month. I will buy more.