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The Ocelot

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I'm not sure what part of spamming a thread dedicated to not hearing about a provari a hundred times a day did you not.

I gotta stay away from... t1

It's not spamming when the OP is your friend.

And apparently you haven't read much of the thread or understood the point.

ummm...in chellemmm's defense, she started this thread in the "Outside" sub-forum after getting royally slammed in a newbie thread. A mod decided it should go in this forum; it wasn't her choice. She was letting off steam. She never intended her remarks to be part of a general discussion.

I understand loving the ProVari, I'm sitting here with two, so yeah - but I have also gotten PMs from new members almost in tears because they can't afford a mod, or don't think they'll be able to operate one, and have been lead to believe everything thing else is junk and a waste of money. They also often don't think vaping will really work and don't want to spend more than they can afford losing. Getting off of tobacco is very difficult and feeling depressed and discouraged makes it worse.

I'm tech savvy, learn quickly and am blessed to be able to afford advanced devices - something that isn't true some people. Chellmmm had some nasty personal comments flung at her because she dared to suggest a Twist or Spinner might be a more appropriate suggestion for that particular member.

A ProVari is a fabulous machine! So is a Vamo! But they are just power sources - without a good delivery system and a juice you like, a mod can suck as bad as a cig-a-like. Personally, I think new vapers who don't know a carto from a canary would be better off getting a decent mid-sized battery and spending more of their budget on trying different delivery systems and juice - from there they can only move up.:2c:
 
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It's spamming when everyone who has to hear about it constantly can't even escape it outside "The forum for provari enthusiasts".

Maybe I have not read enough of the forum. I only have mentioned it outside of the Provari section when someone asked about them. I know even answering questions about them can rub people the wrong way.

All Provari owners are not beating on people that like other things. I know we all like different things. I got a Provari on the chance it would stop me buying more things that I was not going to use and it worked. When I got the Provari I was looking for a desk based unit. Because it met every requirement I had it stopped my search for that. I am still in search of a no hands option better than what I have tried. Do I want the best hands free option that can possibly be built. Nope, but I want one that matches my lifestyle better than what I have tried. I just dread all the items I will end up buying trying to find what does meet my expectations. Once my expectations are met I can stop.
 

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Maybe I have not read enough of the forum. I only have mentioned it outside of the Provari section when someone asked about them. I know even answering questions about them can rub people the wrong way.

All Provari owners are not beating on people that like other things. I know we all like different things. I got a Provari on the chance it would stop me buying more things that I was not going to use and it worked. When I got the Provari I was looking for a desk based unit. Because it met every requirement I had it stopped my search for that. I am still in search of a no hands option better than what I have tried. Do I want the best hands free option that can possibly be built. Nope, but I want one that matches my lifestyle better than what I have tried. I just dread all the items I will end up buying trying to find what does meet my expectations. Once my expectations are met I can stop.

Fair enough but you can't help but notice how many times a new member is recommended a provari with a line something like "it is what you will end up wanting just spend the money now". Truth is many are happy on Egos, cheaper mods, etc. It's not THE answer it's one of many. I didn't single you out, it's a problem involving a lot more than one person.
 

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Fair enough but you can't help but notice how many times a new member is recommended a provari with a line something like "it is what you will end up wanting just spend the money now". Truth is many are happy on Egos, cheaper mods, etc. It's not THE answer it's one of many. I didn't single you out, it's a problem involving a lot more than one person.

You said it was impossible for a Provari Fan to be unbiased or something like that. I am a Provari fan because it is simple to use and meets all of my current needs except when both of my hands are busy. I am still looking for not the best solution but one that fits me the best.
 

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Fair enough but you can't help but notice how many times a new member is recommended a provari with a line something like "it is what you will end up wanting just spend the money now". Truth is many are happy on Egos, cheaper mods, etc. It's not THE answer it's one of many. I didn't single you out, it's a problem involving a lot more than one person.

True enough, but you're venting in the wrong thread...

Plus they have their opinions and you have yours.
 

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Fair enough but you can't help but notice how many times a new member is recommended a provari with a line something like "it is what you will end up wanting just spend the money now". Truth is many are happy on Egos, cheaper mods, etc. It's not THE answer it's one of many. I didn't single you out, it's a problem involving a lot more than one person.

I just realized, this is my thread where I said I was not going to mention the P-word outside of the Provari section. At least that is what I think I said.
 
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