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Governor Schwarzenegger Protects Adult Consumers Access to E-Cigarettes
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The fact I had to question whether the ECA was even interested in this bill proves it wasn't interested enough. I'm just glad the future of this technology in the US will not rest in the hands of the ECA ............that I can be sure of. I know you guys mean well but you're not making half the difference you could be.
We gotta get this guy an e-cigar.
LOL! ...already sent it to the Governor's office today! My staff went nuts when they heard this and had one boxed before I came in. Unless it gets confiscated by stormtroopers, he should have it by Thursday. I sent it with all of our compliments and a link to the ECF.
Speaking of headlines --- and atrocious press releases -- check out these words that follow. This is a miscarriage from the inaccurate headline to the editorial posing as a last paragraph in an "article". Dreadful beyond belief. Read this and understand why the mainstream press most often ignores PR posts on giveaway sites like 24/7, etc.
This is embarrassing for all e-smokers. Where's that throw-up smiley when I need it?
This is embarrassing for all e-smokers. Where's that throw-up smiley when I need it?
Unfortunately, Bob, the mainstream press is guilty of some of the same actions as the writers of press releases. My husband and I often see editorials posing as news stories in the Washington Post.
And whoever is writing the headlines often works so hard at being clever that the content of the story is misrepresented.
Journalism isn't what it used to be.
And whoever is writing the headlines often works so hard at being clever that the content of the story is misrepresented.
Journalism isn't what it used to be.
E-cigrarette tests urged by advocates; Governor refuses to sign ban - DailyBulletin.com
Mainstream article noting comments from the ECA press release.
What is also interesting is this quote from the Non-Smokers Rights Association:
"Despite the insufficient amount of testing, Tegen said the organization believes the electronic cigarette should not be considered as a substitute for smoking tobacco cigarettes and is concerned about the risks of inhaling second-hand smoke from the electronic version."
It is clear that the next educational campaign needs to be that the ecig does not create SMOKE but VAPOR. There is a difference between COMBUSTION and VAPORIZATION.
Mainstream article noting comments from the ECA press release.
What is also interesting is this quote from the Non-Smokers Rights Association:
"Despite the insufficient amount of testing, Tegen said the organization believes the electronic cigarette should not be considered as a substitute for smoking tobacco cigarettes and is concerned about the risks of inhaling second-hand smoke from the electronic version."
It is clear that the next educational campaign needs to be that the ecig does not create SMOKE but VAPOR. There is a difference between COMBUSTION and VAPORIZATION.
That's very exciting that consumers were also mentioned as having contacted the Gov. So is it the understanding that this will be a setback to the FDA's involvement?
As far as FDA involvement... anything we say or think is speculation at this point considering that there is pending litigation.
Would I like to think that the FDA would listen to the consumers who in fact are using this product, find it to be good, and maybe help the FDA be a little less aggressive in their regulatory ability, which they may or may not have eventually? Yes.
In the past, there have been examples where the FDA uses "morality" as a point for reasoning for or against something and they do take into consideration societal concerns. We can only hope that they do so for us. Even though they are funded in part by tax payer dollars, but mostly by those seeking application for regulation and approval, one would hope the consumer portion of that funding could have a say in something!
Would I like to think that the FDA would listen to the consumers who in fact are using this product, find it to be good, and maybe help the FDA be a little less aggressive in their regulatory ability, which they may or may not have eventually? Yes.
In the past, there have been examples where the FDA uses "morality" as a point for reasoning for or against something and they do take into consideration societal concerns. We can only hope that they do so for us. Even though they are funded in part by tax payer dollars, but mostly by those seeking application for regulation and approval, one would hope the consumer portion of that funding could have a say in something!
Excellent follow up punch Lacey. No heavy weight boxing match was won with a single blow. We may have lost a round or two in the beginning, but continuing to pound truth into their heads is the only way to win.
FYI all SB400 is also talked about here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-coming-gov-vetos-defers-se-v-fda-case-4.html
if you to aswing by and read. alot of thread where merged into this one.
if you to aswing by and read. alot of thread where merged into this one.
Say what you will about the Govenator... but I'm REALLY liking his stance on Let The
Grown-Ups Do What They Want. Our society is SUPPOSED to be based around the
concept that as long as what you're doing doesn't negatively impact others, knock
yourself the hell out.
Grown-Ups Do What They Want. Our society is SUPPOSED to be based around the
concept that as long as what you're doing doesn't negatively impact others, knock
yourself the hell out.
LOL! ...already sent it to the Governor's office today! My staff went nuts when they heard this and had one boxed before I came in. Unless it gets confiscated by stormtroopers, he should have it by Thursday. I sent it with all of our compliments and a link to the ECF.
Webby, did you get a thank you card or a letter back? I'm curious lol
Actually I did get a nice letter back. It was stamped with the Governators sig, but the content was not so generic as to think it was purely a form letter. Let me find it and I'll scan it and upload a link.
To be honest it was pretty nice. Almost made me go rent T2 again.
Actually I did get a nice letter back. It was stamped with the Governators sig, but the content was not so generic as to think it was purely a form letter. Let me find it and I'll scan it and upload a link.
To be honest it was pretty nice. Almost made me go rent T2 again.
Ohhh I wanna see! post it asap
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