GP Series by VapourArt - Official Thread for GP Spheroid, GP PAPS, X, GP Piccolo, GP SnP and more - Part 3

[Cmoke]

I wonder how an ULTEM tank would look on a fluff build..

Being able to see the fluff from the outside would certainly help to get it perfectly distributed within the tank. But would it also show the amount of liquid still left in the fluff?

 

[perseas]

I wonder how an ULTEM tank would look on a fluff build..

Being able to see the fluff from the outside would certainly help to get it perfectly distributed within the tank. But would it also show the amount of liquid still left in the fluff?

This is very good question! I will post photos on Wednesday of how it looks with the fluff inside. There are vapers that use the Heron 1.5 without fluff, which is an experimental type of build for this version.

 

[LongDraw]

When it arrives to you, try a loop build with the new topper. Hold the 2 cotton tails together and insert them through the topper's hole, it works fine!

When I do a build for Heron or Spheroid, I always insert the cotton twisted, holding both ends, pulling the left tail and continue twisting the right one at the same time, so it will be difficult to move it afterwards without twisting, it remains tight in place without being too dense and diminish the wicking. How much twist you do, depends on the coil, and the sense you get that if you overdo it, the wicking will stop after a while. It is a very easy process, and it can be corrected in a minute with a second attempt.

WOW! Whenever i cut my KGD pads I just cut a strip and then twist one end to insert, worked pretty well for my reo and bf dripper. With the tanks now realizing i have to change some things up so went to 1 ohm, and have been having to work on the wicking.

This morning took your advice, cut a slightly larger strip, twisted it some then inserted in the coil, then twisted more to get it nice and snug in the coil, but lose/fluffy on the ends. Both the heron v2 and speroid v4 are working great. Gonna have to start doing the same for my other builds and see how it goes.

Also, can't remember who posted it, but instead of having the cotton come through the channels on both i now lift up the wicks so they are just pressing against the side of the channels. That works a lot better it seems, i only get a dry hit if i vape to many times in a row, which makes sense because it does need time to wick again some. Will see if this stops some of the leaking i would get to the heron v2. I think it will cause part of the problem i am guessing was not enough wick in the coil and not enough cotton in the chamber over all.

Thanks again everyone.

 

[SeniorBoy]

Quick question: Will the Heron V2 include the old cap which has two juice/wick holes which I prefer, or the new one discussed in this thread with a single juice/wick hole?

BTW, nice write up on the new Heron V2 tank.

 

[perseas]

Quick question: Will the Heron V2 include the old cap which has two juice/wick holes which I prefer, or the new one discussed in this thread with a single juice/wick hole?

BTW, nice write up on the new Heron V2 tank.

Thank you buddy!

Every Heron v2 comes with both toppers, so the vaper can find what fits better for his builds.

 

[buergermeester]

This is very good question! I will post photos on Wednesday of how it looks with the fluff inside. There are vapers that use the Heron 1.5 without fluff, which is an experimental type of build for this version.

"Late bird" ;-) Have you tested with Amber tank in Spheroid
Mode? Thank you!

 

[perseas]

This is very good question! I will post photos on Wednesday of how it looks with the fluff inside. There are vapers that use the Heron 1.5 without fluff, which is an experimental type of build for this version.

Sorry for my delayed response, we are travelling these days to arrange the production of some projects, when I return to Athens, I will post the photos.

 

[perseas]

"Late bird" ;-) Have you tested with Amber tank in Spheroid
Mode? Thank you!

We are working on it and if we achieve it, I'll speak about. It's tricky material

 

[Elyrotth]

Hi everyone! I just joined the GP family and got my piccoloid v2 from vapourart this tuesday AND IM IN LOVE! Absolutely a stunning piece of kit. Im ipressed how GP has dealt with the voltage drops and conductivity of these 14500 mods! But i still have one question. The GPin seems very long and in my opinion it takes alot of the room in the mod. I understand that its hard to address problems when you got nippletop and flattop batteries on the market, but still when the gpin is approximately 1cm long and halfway through when screwing the spheroid on the mod it already makes contact with the battery. So the last turns are really hard to complete. Furtherso taking the mod apart for batterychange it is really difficult when there is a hard tension betweem the gpin and the battery. How i see it:
There is a lot of spareroom to cut from the overall length of the mod and by cutting the length of the gpin it would be possible tu cut the length of the batterytube. Also this would make a 14650 tube not to seem so long Any toughts?

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[qorax]

It is still the shortest 16mm mod @Elyrotth bro!

However yes, your concerns are correct - if you've only one or two sizes of 14xxx batts. But I believe there are quite a few variations out there, including amongst the AWs. Moreover, as you stated - the nipple tops and the flat ones. This GPin tries to please all sorts of those sizes. And GP indeed did a commendable job with it.

 

[Elyrotth]

It is still the shortest 16mm mod @Elyrotth bro!

However yes, your concerns are correct - if you've only one or two sizes of 14xxx batts. But I believe there are quite a few variations out there, including amongst the AWs. Moreover, as you stated - the nipple tops and the flat ones. This GPin tries to please all sorts of those sizes. And GP indeed did a commendable job at it.

I agree with you Q and its not only the shortest, but best conducting 14500 mod on the market! And I just adore the button!
But still i bet the length variation of the 14500 batteries does not exceed over 5mm. I have to try and find myself som flattop batteries only 14500 that were available in my local shop where purple efest nippletops. They will do the job, for now.
How about 14650 batterytubes? 14650 batteries would give around 50% increase in batterylife (650mah->950mah) and becouse the mod itself is already so short i would not mind an extra 15mm

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[qorax]

I agree with you Q and its not only the shortest, but best conducting 14500 mod on the market! And I just adore the button!
But still i bet the length variation of the 14500 batteries does not exceed over 5mm. I have to try and find myself som flattop batteries only 14500 that were available in my local shop where purple efest nippletops. They will do the job, for now.
How about 14650 batterytubes? 14650 batteries would give around 50% increase in batterylife (650mah->950mah) and becouse the mod itself is already so short i would not mind an extra 15mm

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Absolutely true. 14650 do offer a bit of extra boom. I have two mods which can be maneuvered between 14500 & 14650 -- thus I can vouch for that. And that 15mm additional length isn't noticeable at all. Case in point the Vaper V4*:



However, there are quite a few modders who believe that this 15mm length vs. the extra power is not worth it. Especially if they are trying their best at conductivity management. Besides, 14650 batts are the most hard to find, usually. I had serious trouble sourcing them.

*Sorry @perseas. I will delete the link if it is detrimental to the thread.

 

[Elyrotth]

Well, then i'm lucky because i have found 14650 here in Finland ! I've got problems finding proper 26500 IMR batts.. Still i know some modders and can probably ge t a 14650tube custom made, but not with GP precision and finishing touches.. We'll see what the future brings! ( ...maby 14650 tubes for piccoloid) im gonna go and brew som coffee and enjoy RY4 with my piccoloid <3 Nice chatting Q

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[qorax]

^Ha, I grabbed some tea... and am enjoying RY4D as well in my Piccoloid V2/V4 Best 16mm combo in my book!

 

[perseas]

Hi everyone! I just joined the GP family and got my piccoloid v2 from vapourart this tuesday AND IM IN LOVE! Absolutely a stunning piece of kit. Im ipressed how GP has dealt with the voltage drops and conductivity of these 14500 mods! But i still have one question. The GPin seems very long and in my opinion it takes alot of the room in the mod. I understand that its hard to address problems when you got nippletop and flattop batteries on the market, but still when the gpin is approximately 1cm long and halfway through when screwing the spheroid on the mod it already makes contact with the battery. So the last turns are really hard to complete. Furtherso taking the mod apart for batterychange it is really difficult when there is a hard tension betweem the gpin and the battery. How i see it:
There is a lot of spareroom to cut from the overall length of the mod and by cutting the length of the gpin it would be possible tu cut the length of the batterytube. Also this would make a 14650 tube not to seem so long Any toughts?

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Welcome Elyrothh!

Thank you very much for the praise!

There are a couple of reasons for the length of the GPin, which is a much shorter connection than a 510 one. In order to improve the conductivity, we increased the pressure upon the battery's poles, so the GPin is able to be compressed about 2-3 mm with a hard spring and sucks up a ton of battery life to the point of draining them. Second, we have to take in account the variations of the 14500 batteries, and at the same time to be able to inspect, clean and assemble the whole thing easily without tools, even with big hands. Another reason is simplification - compatibility , we decided to use common GPins for
GP Heron 1.0, 1.5, 2.0,
GP PAPS 3.0, 4.0,
GP Piccolo 4.0,
GP Spheroid 4.0 and
GP PAPS X 1.5.
We designed the GPin to function flawlessly with the dimensions of about 40 different brands of batteries. Of course, we can shorten the whole thing, not only the pin, but this will create incompatibilities with the rest models and versions and updating from a previous version, buying for example just the switch, won't work anymore, because the overall length will change. In a future version, we'll shrink the GPin, we have already designed a version 2.0, but for the aforementioned reasons we haven't produce it yet. We keep compatibility as long we can

 

[qorax]

Welcome Elyrothh!

Thank you very much for the praise!

There are a couple of reasons for the length of the GPin, which is a much shorter connection than a 510 one. In order to improve the conductivity, we increased the pressure upon the battery's poles, so the GPin is able to be compressed about 2-3 mm with a hard spring and sucks up a ton of battery life to the point of draining them. Second, we have to take in account the variations of the 14500 batteries, and at the same time to be able to inspect, clean and assemble the whole thing easily without tools, even with big hands. Another reason is simplification - compatibility , we decided to use common GPins for
GP Heron 1.0, 1.5, 2.0,
GP PAPS 3.0, 4.0,
GP Piccolo 4.0,
GP Spheroid 4.0 and
GP PAPS X 1.5.
We designed the GPin to function flawlessly with the dimensions of about 40 different brands of batteries. Of course, we can shorten the whole thing, not only the pin, but this will create incompatibilities with the rest models and versions and updating from a previous version, buying for example just the switch, won't work anymore, because the overall length will change. In a future version, we'll shrink the GPin, we have already designed a version 2.0, but for the aforementioned reasons we haven't produce it yet. We keep compatibility as long we can

A version 2.0? Hmm...

 

[Elyrotth]

Welcome Elyrothh!

Thank you very much for the praise!

There are a couple of reasons for the length of the GPin, which is a much shorter connection than a 510 one. In order to improve the conductivity, we increased the pressure upon the battery's poles, so the GPin is able to be compressed about 2-3 mm with a hard spring and sucks up a ton of battery life to the point of draining them. Second, we have to take in account the variations of the 14500 batteries, and at the same time to be able to inspect, clean and assemble the whole thing easily without tools, even with big hands. Another reason is simplification - compatibility , we decided to use common GPins for
GP Heron 1.0, 1.5, 2.0,
GP PAPS 3.0, 4.0,
GP Piccolo 4.0,
GP Spheroid 4.0 and
GP PAPS X 1.5.
We designed the GPin to function flawlessly with the dimensions of about 40 different brands of batteries. Of course, we can shorten the whole thing, not only the pin, but this will create incompatibilities with the rest models and versions and updating from a previous version, buying for example just the switch, won't work anymore, because the overall length will change. In a future version, we'll shrink the GPin, we have already designed a version 2.0, but for the aforementioned reasons we haven't produce it yet. We keep compatibility as long we can

Thank you Perseas ! Now i better understand GPs perspective on the case What is your take on 14650 tubes Perseas?

GPin v2 sounds interresting !

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[Firestorm]

Thank you Perseas ! Now i better understand GPs perspective on the case What is your take on 14650 tubes Perseas?

Perhaps his stance has changed, but here's what he said a few years ago:

"We observed the battery charts and the 14650 batteries haven't any significant gain over the 14500 ones, so we won't make 14650 tubes. The GP Piccolo v1 and v2 circulated in 14650 mode indeed, they were requested by the VaporWall members and 100 units were produced."

 

[Elyrotth]

Perhaps his stance has changed, but here's what he said a few years ago:

"We observed the battery charts and the 14650 batteries haven't any significant gain over the 14500 ones, so we won't make 14650 tubes. The GP Piccolo v1 and v2 circulated in 14650 mode indeed, they were requested by the VaporWall members and 100 units were produced."

Thanks for the reply! Interresting point! Im not sure if anything has happened on the 14-seried batteryfront these past two years. Has Perseas a new take on this?

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[perseas]

Thanks for the reply! Interresting point! Im not sure if anything has happened on the 14-seried batteryfront these past two years. Has Perseas a new take on this?

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Somebody here commented last year that the new 14650 Trustfire, if I recall well, showed better performance than before.