Halo juices= how many packs?
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Short answer - nope.
Longer answer: The human body absorbs the nicotine in vapor differently than the nicotine in smoke, for starters. In addition to that, every brand of smokes has a different composition and nic level, and the various "other stuff" in your smokes can affect the amount of nic you absorb as well as how fast you absorb it. Then, there's the fact that everyone smokes and vapes differently. My mother used to drive me nuts by chain smoking, but only smoking each one about 3/4 of the way down. I on the other hand, drove *her* nuts by smoking mine all the way down to the filter. We both vape differently too - I take long, slow hits every few minutes, she likes to take a few short hits and be done for a while - so, accordingly, I vape anywhere from 12-18mg nic (and often less than that at night), and she vapes 24mg from the time she gets up till she goes to bed. We both smoked the same brand, and, by the time we quit, around the same amount, but because we smoked so differently and we vape differently and we're different people, we have very different vaping needs.
I go through anywhere from 3-5ml a day on an MVP2. Some of that is due to variable voltage/variable wattage - the higher the heat, the more vapor, which means more nic per hit, but it also means you go through juice faster.
Mom uses a G6 or sometimes an Ego, and goes through about 1 1/2 to 2 ml a day.
Someone else using the exact same equipment who smoked the exact same amount of the exact same brand might well vape an entirely different amount of juice, at the same nic level or a totally different one.
Cool, thanks! At least now I have a rough guess as to how much I'm getting. I'll got through about 3-4mls a day.
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im new to this but have been going through 3-5 mls a day but usually closer to 3
so 3 mls = a pack (for me) since i smoked a pack a day.
so like the guy above me said 30ml = about a carton
so 3 mls = a pack (for me) since i smoked a pack a day.
so like the guy above me said 30ml = about a carton
It all depends though - on what nic strength you're using, what gear you have, what voltage/wattage you vape at... I'll say it again, there's no real equivalence between packs and mls. I was a PAD smoker....at roughly 18 ml I vape 3-5 ml a day on the MVP2, but on a G6, only 2 ml a day. I could also go up to 24mg and vape 1ml a day on the MVP2 and probably less than that on the G6. Or I could vape 6mg and burn through 10ml a day. Or I could use an RBA and 6mg and vape 2 ml a day.
So which amount equals a pack? 3-5ml on an MVP2? or 2ml on a G6? or any of the other combos?
It really, really, really does depend on the nic strength of your juice *and* what you're using to vape your juice. You can compare juice to juice, or look at differences in how much you vape across different devices, or look at the difference in how much you vape depending on your nic level... but you can't compare juice to packs and get any kind of a direct correlation.
30 ml for me might last a month, or it might last ten days, or it might be gone in a week - not because I'd need wildly different amounts of nic, but because I might play with the voltage, swap to a different device, or use a lower nic strength so that I can vape it for longer and enjoy the flavor.
I realize letting go of "packs" as a measurement of how much you need is a really difficult step to take - it freaked me out when I started too, cause I just wanted a simple answer to "how much juice do I need to buy?" but you really won't know the answer to that till you've been vaping for a while.
What I tell new people is, forget packs altogether - your body will tell you how much nic is too much and how much is enough. Get *at least* 30ml total (more if you can afford it) in *at least* three different flavors (more if you can afford it). 30 mls is enough to dip your toe in, but if vaping works for you, it's also going to be a pretty bare bones amount to use... if you're ordering online, you'll have to decide fairly quickly what your next order will be in order for it to ship/steep in time.
The same's not really true with smoking... most new smokers will take quite a while to polish off a carton. Most new vapers will actually vape *more* than they smoked in those first few weeks, in order to kill not just the nic craving, but the psychological effects of the quit and the withdrawal symptoms from not putting all those other chemicals from smokes into their bodies.
That's not to say 30 mls = a carton might not be a good metric for *some* people, but it's not going to work for everybody, and comparing mls to packs just doesn't work in general.
I'm basing the 30ml=1pack ratio with vaping Halo juice in a Halo Triton tank on a Triton battery. The same formula doesn't hold up as well when using a ProVari with ProTank2s or carto-tanks. Those delivery systems use more juice.
First, want to be clear .. you were asking how many packs of cigarettes?
And if so, then there is no clear equivalent.
i was 1/3 a pack a day smoker and i started with vaping only and it was with Halo and i had to use 24mg juice and i prolly vaped 2mL a day.
If you were measuring Halo juice on me.. then that 2.4ml of juice would be worth 1/3 to 1/2 of a pack of cigarettes to me but only at 24mg nicotine strength.
Other people can differ greatly.
Happy Vaping and Be Healthy.
And if that works for *you*, that's fine - honest, I'm not trying to call anyone out. Do what works for you. But the thing is, 30 ml of whatever strength you're vaping on a Halo Triton works for *you*, with the way *you* vape, at the strength you vape. What would happen to that equation if you went to 6mg nic? or to 36mg? That's what I'm saying - gear is just one part of the equation. Nic strength is another. *Brand* of liquid can make a difference. So can voltage, so can how often you vape, how long your hits are, etc etc etc.
If it helps you to think of it as 30ml = a carton, by all means, there's nothing wrong with thinking of it that way. But because there are many more factors in vaping than there are smoking, that equation might or might not be true for anyone else.... it could be anything from dead on to way, way off. That's my point.
I'm not trying to start anything with anybody, I just don't think newbies are best served by "here's an equation," when that equation might lead to them running out of juice and then panicking thinking they ODed themselves on nic or they're doing something "wrong". New people deserve all of the information we can give them (hopefully without overloading them), even when it's not the answer they want to hear.
I would've been thrilled if someone had told me "30 mls = a carton" when I first started (because that's a nice simple answer)... and then, had I followed that metric, I would have run out of juice before my next payday. Someone else might have had excess juice, someone else might have found it totally accurate. But new people deserve to know that that's always the way it's going to go when we try to compare liquid to packs - comparing to packs is a crapshoot guess, because what's accurate for *me* may not be true for *you* and it could very well be that neither of our answers are accurate for the person asking the question.
What part about my did you not understand?
Sounds like someone needs to increase their nic level...
Sounds like someone needs to increase their nic level...
Nope, I'm good thanks, and like I said, I have no problem with you or anyone else. I was just reiterating that gear is only one part of the equation, since I tossed up quite a lot of information in my earlier post. Sorry if it sounded like I was coming after you personally, that wasn't my intention. Have a good night.
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