Halo vg/pg or what?

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PapawBrett

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In the not too distant past JohnnyBlaze ( the owner of Halo's ECF name) joined a conversation about his site's apperent absence of listed ingredients. At that time the owner politely informed us that his blends are a house secrets so as to prevent copycats and knockoffs. Now, wether or not you agree with this, as the manufacturer Halo does have the right to keep thier formulas 'in house', and apperently Halo exercises that trade privilige. I personally have avoided Halo for this reason. As an allergy sufferer anything above 30% PG lights up my sinuses and generally makes me miserable. There are others who swear by Halo's offerings. I would advise to judge for yourself....
 

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I have vaped many juices including Halo. I still have a bottle of Torque56 which is a good, strong, straightforward, American tobacco style. From what I can tell by comparison, Halo juices are definitely NOT 100% PG. On the contrary, I find the juice rather viscous suggesting it has a higher VG/PG ratio than the default of many other venders. My guess is 50/50. I buy 60PG/40VG form all my other vendors and my Halo juice seems more glycerine like than the others. If you can handle at least a 70PG/30VG, you'll tolerate Halo without a doubt. The flavors are unique to the company and fall under the "love 'em or hate 'em" category with most users. Hope this helps.

EDIT: I have noticed that the TH is pretty strong with Halo juice, but this doesn't necessarily suggest a high PG content. It could also be a quality of the nic and flavorings used.
 
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Thank you VERY MUCH!! I've vaped 50/50 just fine, I haven't vg'd higher than that. I did order some VV 100% VG so we will see once that gets here. It's just the 100% pg I can't tolerate (so far). I have in my cart Tribeca and Cafe Mocha. I don't like the smell of a lot of the tobacco ones from different venders because a lot of times they smell and taste like old nasty cheap tobacco, but USA mix isn't bad in smell or taste. Which of these would rival the flavor of a Marlboro Ultra Light? Or do any of them?
I have vaped many juices including Halo. I still have a bottle of Torque56 which is a good, strong, straightforward, American tobacco style. From what I can tell by comparison, Halo juices are definitely NOT 100% PG. On the contrary, I find the juice rather viscous suggesting it has a higher VG/PG ratio than the default of many other venders. My guess is 50/50. I buy 60PG/40VG form all my other vendors and my Halo juice seems more glycerine like than the others. If you can handle at least a 70PG/30VG, you'll tolerate Halo without a doubt. The flavors are unique to the company and fall under the "love 'em or hate 'em" category with most users. Hope this helps.

EDIT: I have noticed that the TH is pretty strong with Halo juice, but this doesn't necessarily suggest a high PG content. It could also be a quality of the nic and flavorings used.
 

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I remember reading somewhere, not sure where, that they are not 100% either PG or VG. They did say that each flavor has a different blend of PG/VG depending on the flavor, and that is proprietary.

I can tolerate the Cafe Mocha, and straight PG wrecks me also. I keep a Phiniac with Cafe Mocha in it, I like it so much.

ETA: I usually vape 50/50 or 30/70, when I can choose and in my DIY.
 

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Awesome, thank you!! What is a Phiniac? I have a zmax with a fake vivi nova and it irritates the tar out of me, I can't just vape it, I constantly have to play with this thing because the wicks are so high. UGH!!
I remember reading somewhere, not sure where, that they are not 100% either PG or VG. They did say that each flavor has a different blend of PG/VG depending on the flavor, and that is proprietary.

I can tolerate the Cafe Mocha, and straight PG wrecks me also. I keep a Phiniac with Cafe Mocha in it, I like it so much.

ETA: I usually vape 50/50 or 30/70, when I can choose and in my DIY.
 

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Awesome, thank you!! What is a Phiniac? I have a zmax with a fake vivi nova and it irritates the tar out of me, I can't just vape it, I constantly have to play with this thing because the wicks are so high. UGH!!
Phiniac is a DCT: Phiniac Tank. Pyrex glass and a good seal if you like carto/tanks. If you don't like the Nova, you're not alone. I fell out of love with mine and I have genuine Vision ones. I just started getting into the Kanger T3 and am much happier with it than my Novas. No wicking issues. No burnt taste. 3ml capacity and easy to clean. Heads last longer than the Novas too.
 

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I have a fake T3 with an adapter for the Zmax and liked it a lot until I started getting a burnt taste... is there anything out there that doesn't? It's quite frustrating!!
Phiniac is a DCT: Phiniac Tank. Pyrex glass and a good seal if you like carto/tanks. If you don't like the Nova, you're not alone. I fell out of love with mine and I have genuine Vision ones. I just started getting into the Kanger T3 and am much happier with it than my Novas. No wicking issues. No burnt taste. 3ml capacity and easy to clean. Heads last longer than the Novas too.
 

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I have a fake T3 with an adapter for the Zmax and liked it a lot until I started getting a burnt taste... is there anything out there that doesn't? It's quite frustrating!!
If I ever get a burnt taste from the T3 I turn down the voltage just a tad. Also, try flipping the silicone grommet upside-down. That frees the wick holes to allow more juice flow. Worked wonders for me. Check out this for reference: Kanger T3 grommet flip
 
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yep, flipped that 1st day I had it. Never thought about turning the voltage down.. sheesh, I can be totally brain dead sometimes! Thank you!!
If I ever get a burnt taste from the T3 I turn down the voltage just a tad. Also, try flipping the silicone grommet upside-down. That frees the wick holes to allow more juice flow. Worked wonders for me. Check out this for reference: Kanger T3 grommet flip
 

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yep, flipped that 1st day I had it. Never thought about turning the voltage down.. sheesh, I can be totally brain dead sometimes! Thank you!!
Yeah. If you were able to get a hold of the LR heads, they do best at low voltages. I keep mine at 3.2-3.4. The SR heads get burny above 4.2 so I keep voltages at 3.8 or 4 when using SR.
 

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"Secret ingredients" is fine, "proprietary PG/VG ratio" isn't. Many people NEED to know that. I know of no other vendor that refuses to share that information.
Agree completely, gt. I bought from them once and although I enjoyed the juice, I never looked back. Pretty expensive too.
 

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Oh halo! It's a love hate relationship for me! I believe keeping flavors a secret is fine but I'm with you guys that the pg/vg ratio shod be disclosed and we should be able to customize. From what I read and my experience I believe there is more pg than vg. I prefer my juices the other way around, heavy on the vg. It drives me crazy because they do have very unique, clean, bold and complex flavors and I enjoy the flavor a lot but the vape not so much. They are also a bit pricy.

However they got me with their Black Friday sale and I ordered 4 juices from them all 7ml. I don't think I'll ever order more than 7ml and will probably only order when there is a sale. It just doesn't completely satisfy. Wouldn't be an all day vape until the changes regarding pg/vg take place. But is nice occasionally.
 
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