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[Dystonia Man]

I got a 6 milligram 70 30 blend and I notice when the juice gets cold. The throat hit gets mildly harsh. Is there any health related things to look out for other than a sore throat? I'm still learning about all this. I'm glad I have a place to go to find out more. And be able to help others when I have more experience.

 

[QcVaper]

Funny you mention that, i vape in the cold quite often lately but i didn't notice any change in throat hit (at least nothing major). Bump to find out for you !

 

[stols001]

I can't say it exactly gets "cold" here but I don't notice a huge difference other than if I'm outside at night or in the early morning (which is no longer necessary as much thankfully) it takes a little longer for my equipment to warm up and provide a satisfying vape. I could see the (vague) possibility that if the VG gets cold it becomes more viscous, and possibly leading to you inhaling a higher percentage of PG at first until your vape warms up? This is TOTALLY speculative, but the two ingredients do behave differently at different temperatures. Maybe try swirling the juice in your tank as you vape if it's very cold?

That's the only thing that kind of makes sense to me, but my older brother is the "smart" one and my little sister is the "pretty" one. I got the "creative" label (these were all from my mom, growing up) so many of my thoughts... Well, it's a thought, anyway.

Anna

 

[Topwater Elvis]

70Pg / 30Vg or 30Pg / 70Vg?

70pg is gonna be harsher than 70vg.

Hard for me to say if cold liquid makes a difference, I keep my vape in a shirt pocket with another layer then a coat over it in cold weather. There has been times the moisture on top of the kabuki has frozen to the ice covered mustache, ya gotta yank it away fast.

 

[BrotherBob]

I got a 6 milligram 70 30 blend and I notice when the juice gets cold. The throat hit gets mildly harsh. Is there any health related things to look out for other than a sore throat? I'm still learning about all this. I'm glad I have a place to go to find out more. And be able to help others when I have more experience.

Harshness to the throat can be your body sending you a message. Might lead to future problems if you ignor. Could check out:
Freebase vs. Salt Nicotine: What's the difference?
Juices with Salts Thoughts?

 

[Dystonia Man]

Thank you. I'll check out the link. It is only seems to happen when I wake up and vape. Then it smooth out. When it does smooth out. I noticed it more with the cinnamon then the fruit loops. Or when I stealth vape or chain vape out of boredom, and I only do lung hits. since I do it all day. No sore throat with that though. I do make sure the cotton is wet though. Might be where I buy it from. Vapor world 16 ounce bottles for $30. Not sure of any other places that sell it for much.

 

[PapawBrett]

PG/VG ratios will affect your vape. PG increases flavor and TH, VG makes more vapor.
Vaping dehydrates. The sore throat you experience could simply mean you need to drink more water. Alcohol and caffeine do not hydrate. Water does.
Wattage can make your vape unnecessarily hot. This is not an endurance test, it is an alternative to smoking.
As far as the cost of your e-liquid, it's like anything else in life - cheap is cheap. Try several vendors, and search for e-liquids you are comfortable with.
Good Luck on Your Journey.

 

[papergoblin]

Thank you. I'll check out the link. It is only seems to happen when I wake up and vape. Then it smooth out. When it does smooth out. I noticed it more with the cinnamon then the fruit loops. Or when I stealth vape or chain vape out of boredom, and I only do lung hits. since I do it all day. No sore throat with that though. I do make sure the cotton is wet though. Might be where I buy it from. Vapor world 16 ounce bottles for $30. Not sure of any other places that sell it for much.

Never had their stuff but for cheap I go Mt. Baker or E Liquid Depot, you're in Cali, try 101vape as well. I stay away from Cinnamon, that's some bad stuff all around (in concentration), not just in liquid. Also you could have your juice just separating (shake it up really good) or maybe cut back the watts in the morning. I start at 40w when I get up then get to 60 as the day rolls on here lately (depends on atty, coils and juice though)and drop back down at bed time.

Then again could be the weather, with the temps going back and forth here, I have all kinds of sinus problems. I wake up with a sore throat that goes away in an hour once I'm up, been that way before I ever started vaping or smoking.

 

[PapawBrett]

There used to be an organic 100% VG Vendor in the SF Bay area (where else ?) called Velvet Cloud Vapor. Their prices are a little more than you are accustomed to spending. Maybe try a few small bottles just to see if it helps ? They used to make a delicious caramel swirl, but don't ask the name.
And their website looks like it was designed by a third grader. But their e-liquids are better.

EDIT: They are still in business. And having a 25% off sale.

 

[Eskie]

Not quite sure what you mean by cold. It was like 11F this morning and breathing that in is enough for a sore throat. Unless I’m wrong, it sounds like when you start out vaping first thing in the morning it feels harsh. I don’t think it’s from the juice sitting out all night in the tank, as it’s heated up into vapor and it’s not any “colder” than at any other time.

I do think that first morning vape can be like a first morning cigarette. It’s likely that your throat is dry first thing in the morning. I know just like when I smoked I’m happier after a bit of warm fluids, like the first sip or two of coffee. Sort of gets the mucous membranes in your mouth and throat a bit moister and stimulates more protective surface fluids there. That may help relieve that feeling of harshness on a dry throat. Generally warm works better than say cold water, but go with whatever you can and see if it helps.

 

[Letitia]

When I use drop in coils I have the same harshness with a few juices. I learned to just take a couple hard pulls and not inhale them. As you said after a couple hits the coil warms up and your vape smooths out.

 

[Dystonia Man]

There used to be an organic 100% VG Vendor in the SF Bay area (where else ?) called Velvet Cloud Vapor. Their prices are a little more than you are accustomed to spending. Maybe try a few small bottles just to see if it helps ? They used to make a delicious caramel swirl, but don't ask the name.
And their website looks like it was designed by a third grader. But their e-liquids are better.

EDIT: They are still in business. And having a 25% off sale.

I remember seeing a thread here with a list of good quality cheap liquid. Can't remember the name of it though. How do you search for different threads? Don't want to ask the same question if its already been answered.

 

[PapawBrett]

I remember seeing a thread here with a list of good quality cheap liquid. Can't remember the name of it though. How do you search for different threads? Don't want to ask the same question if its already been answered.

I have never looked for cheap e-liquid. I believe vaping e-liquid that I truly enjoy keeps me vaping.
Heather's Heavenly Vapes, Ahlusion, Highbrow, Naturally Extracted Tobacco.com, AltCig.com are just a few of the vendors I have enjoyed.
I found My. Baker, Mrs. T's Bakery, Copper Creek, Backwoods Brew and others to be cheap and lacking in taste.
To each their own. Whatever keeps you off of cigarettes works.

 

[Letitia]

+1 for Highbrow e liquids. Very good.

 

[PapawBrett]

+1 for Highbrow e liquids. Very good.

Their Fruits and Bakery are exceptional ! Tobaccos.... not so much.
What I really liked about Highbrow was you could mix and experiment. I would get the Cheesecake, ask to add Blueberry, and would get a custom made Blueberry Cheesecake e-liquid ! Yum !

 

[Letitia]

Their orange is one I've been trying to clone. Best orange out there imo. Their eggnog and brandy is delicious. Actually there was only one of their juices I didn’t like, chocolate something. The coffees are good too.

 

[PapawBrett]

Highbrow Orange, Peach, and Caramel are the best. I particularly liked their caramel because it is not a candy-ish flavor, but more of an old fashioned caramel. Their Caramel Cake is good, too.

 

[Letitia]

Highbrow Orange, Peach, and Caramel are the best. I particularly liked their caramel because it is not a candy-ish flavor, but more of an old fashioned caramel. Their Caramel Cake is good, too.

Didn't try the caramel cake, but agree the caramel was the best one I've had. Lol tried many many caramels, their's is the only one I reordered. Actually tastes like a brown sugar cooked caramel. Most have too much vanilla for me.