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Has anyone tried the AGA Tiamat PLUS w/Glass Tank

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Don't take my band-aid/crutch comment wrong. Most people myself included rely on them at first. Very few people have no problems at first, and when they do they end up in the same boat not already having gone through the learning curve.

The set up that works for me:
500 mesh (400 works fine), 1.5" x 3" rolled solid.
Torch both sides red once on the gas stove.
Roll it without a needle/paperclip/wire in the center.
When you have it about 1/3 rolled up, unroll it most of the way and work out the tiny straw hole in the center then continue to roll it solid. While rolling, pull pressure outward toward the ends like you are trying to make it longer (you won't don't worry).
Fold last 1/4" inward, get it nice and tight (only roll towards the end in one direction or you will loosen it up).
Torch on stove x3, clear juice burn x 3.
Wrap coil counter clock-wise on wick outside of RBA.
Slide into wick hole.
Attach negative counter clockwise making an "S" wick to screw.
Leaving a little bit of slack between the post and wick, attach positive clockwise making an "S" wick to post. You don't want the positive nut pulling the wire too much and causing the top coil to dig into the wick.
Dry burn on low volts, work out hot spots, even out coils.
NOTE: Pulse power, let it get orange and let go of the switch so you don't pop a coil, repeat until hot spots are gone.
Increase voltage and repeat.
Increase voltage and repeat.
Increase voltage and repeat.

No washers/L kinks/twisted positive lead/bent wick.
But by all means, if you have to use one of those band aids until you gain experience then do so. I did at first.

Using this method and 500 mesh you can leave the fill screw in and vape the tank dry without tilting it and without wicking issues.
Hang in there, it takes practice. It takes messing it up and figuring out what to do to fix it.


You know what your doing. That's without a doubt. How can we convince you to do a video and post?
 

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I too am wanting a warmer vape. On my current (first) setup, I'm at about 2.4 ohms (what I usually vape at with other setups at about 3.8 volts) and anything over 3.6 volts with the AGA gives me a severe burnt taste.

I tried switching from my standard SS drip tip to a plastic one in hopes of it helping a bit, changing the voltage etc, but I'm getting an overly "cool" vape.

Looking for a suggestion!
 

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DGM. Mine is sort of working and seems a bit better than when first done. Plenty of vapor, but very muted flavor and can't figure out why that would be.

Is your air hole stock? How hard are you sucking on it? I find a very slow, very long, drawn-out drag to provide the best flavor. It takes a couple of seconds for my coil to heat up the wick, but when it does, look out!
 

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Sure does. You have any tricks for a warmer vape though? Perhaps a recommendation for a certain gauge and wrap?

It sure as hell makes all the flavors of any juice stand out. The bad part is; now I have juices that have way too much flavor now.

Never thought I'd have that problem. :lol:

I also find the vape is pretty cool. Not sure why that is... I mean, I get a good amount of vapor, no hot spots on current setup... It's just not as warm as I would expect with the coil as close as it is to the drip tip. I haven't found a way to get it to warm up.

I tried to pump up the voltage a bit, but that only results in dry hits and nasty TH. My sweet spot is a vape that is just unusually cool...

I THINK it is a result of the stainless steel all over the place acting as a heat sink. The top cap and cover get awfully hot.
 

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You know what your doing. That's without a doubt. How can we convince you to do a video and post?

I'm working a video right now using this method. Will have it posted before the end of the weekend provided my results are good :) Only thing I've done different is wash the mesh in mild dish detergent before the pre-roll torching.

My clear juice is a 50/50 straight PG/VG mix, no nic or flavor.

Hope it works, cause I think we ALL need a break with this SS mesh wick hot spot crap LoL
 
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Is your air hole stock? How hard are you sucking on it? I find a very slow, very long, drawn-out drag to provide the best flavor. It takes a couple of seconds for my coil to heat up the wick, but when it does, look out!

It is still stock. I am hesitant to ream it until I know what exactly that will do, as that is a one way street with these things where no spare parts appear to be available.

Anyone know of who has any parts for these, like the seals? DV is out of everything.

Thanks,
 

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Thanks EHuman. Great detailed explaination. What size wire did you use, and how many wraps? BTW, the crutch comment I made was out of total frustration, and a need to see this work, even if not very well.

I settled on 30g 5/6 wraps for about 1.6Ω. It reacts fast enough and produces ample heat and is easy to work with (IMO).
I have some 32g and 28g but won't use the 28 until I get a mech mod at 1Ω.
28 gauge generates more heat but takes a little longer to heat up, you need more wraps per Ω than 30g or 32. Use if you want a low Ω hot vape.
32g heats up faster but doesn't have the mass to generate the heat of 28g. Use if you want higher Ω and/or fast response.

All work fine but have different "profiles" i.e. response time, thermal mass, the thicker wire (lower gauge # the more abuse it can stand up to. Select based on the number of wraps you want on your coil. You can wrap a 12/13 28g to increase Ω, but it isn't practical.
 

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You know what your doing. That's without a doubt. How can we convince you to do a video and post?
Thanks zipper, I have 4 videos up, but haven't thought of doing an AGA-T set up. It will take me having the time combined with not minding ripping out a working set up :)
Here's a few that may interest you though:
Moving2U - YouTube
 

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I too am wanting a warmer vape...

Looking for a suggestion!

I also find the vape is pretty cool. Not sure why that is...
I haven't found a way to get it to warm up.
I THINK it is a result of the stainless steel all over the place acting as a heat sink. The top cap and cover get awfully hot.

Part of it is the design, it's the nature of the beast. There is not much air space in and old school atty and your drip tip sits right on top of it. In the AGA-T there is more head space, the drip tip can be 1.5 - 2" away from the coil, and more air passing across it having a cooling effect before it gets to your lips. Take your drip tip off and tail-pipe the top of the AGA-T (don't cover the air in-take by mistake), and you will feel more heat and TH. Don't burn your lip blowing vapor out of the air in-take in between puffs :oops:
 

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My aga-t+ arrived today! first off it looks great on my lavatube v2. got a nice ming black and white delrin tip. looks very sexy!

I have only had it in my possession for about 4 hours now and my battery is officially out of power with no way to recharge, curse the gods lol! Built up two wicks, cut one roughly 3.5" and the other around 3", both fit, the 3.5" is very snug though. I can tell I'm going to need more ss mesh for experiments lol. Both wicks oxidized using the 3x3 method.

I got everything put together using the 3.5" wick and 4wraps of 33awg kanthal. this gave me about 2.8ohms. a good start.
coiled on the wick then installed wick and all. worked out my hot spots and shorts, that will take a lot of practice.

once i got it juiced up, bang hot spots and top coil leg are hot. continued to mess with it watching for even heating of the juice.
I managed to get rid of the top coil leg hotspot just as my battery died.... the vape i did get while experimenting was awesome.
made me even realize i don't like this custom key lime pie i made at ecblend.com. I did not get a single metallic taste out of this. so i think im off to a really good start!

Thank you everyone for all of this wonderful information.
 

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Take your drip tip off and tail-pipe the top of the AGA-T (don't cover the air in-take by mistake), and you will feel more heat and TH. Don't burn your lip blowing vapor out of the air in-take in between puffs :oops:

That worked like a charm! Wow. I just took another hit.

*Ahem* Well, now it's just like sucking on a tasty tailpipe. Now can you recommend a good diesel flavored juice? :lol:

Thanks again. You've made my day complete.
 

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I settled on 30g 5/6 wraps for about 1.6Ω. It reacts fast enough and produces ample heat and is easy to work with (IMO).
I have some 32g and 28g but won't use the 28 until I get a mech mod at 1Ω.
28 gauge generates more heat but takes a little longer to heat up, you need more wraps per Ω than 30g or 32. Use if you want a low Ω hot vape.
32g heats up faster but doesn't have the mass to generate the heat of 28g. Use if you want higher Ω and/or fast response.

All work fine but have different "profiles" i.e. response time, thermal mass, the thicker wire (lower gauge # the more abuse it can stand up to. Select based on the number of wraps you want on your coil. You can wrap a 12/13 28g to increase Ω, but it isn't practical.



This is a great post. Nichrome is not used because.???? (I need a brain refresh here). Does Nichrome offer any better of a reaction time over Kanthal?
 

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Part of it is the design, it's the nature of the beast. There is not much air space in and old school atty and your drip tip sits right on top of it. In the AGA-T there is more head space, the drip tip can be 1.5 - 2" away from the coil, and more air passing across it having a cooling effect before it gets to your lips. Take your drip tip off and tail-pipe the top of the AGA-T (don't cover the air in-take by mistake), and you will feel more heat and TH. Don't burn your lip blowing vapor out of the air in-take in between puffs :oops:

That certainly helps! Perhaps a reeeaaaallll short drip tip is in order.

I have one other question. I've gone through about 1/2 tank or so, and I'm still not getting much flavor. Is there much of a break in on these?
 

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That worked like a charm! Wow. I just took another hit.

*Ahem* Well, now it's just like sucking on a tasty tailpipe. Now can you recommend a good diesel flavored juice? :lol:

Thanks again. You've made my day complete.

Maybe one of these shorty's..?? Might fill the bill..I like the shorty cannon's myself...

Anodized Super Shorty Drip Tip, Silver
 

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Maybe one of these shorty's..?? Might fill the bill..I like the shorty cannon's myself...

Anodized Super Shorty Drip Tip, Silver

Shoot, dragging on this bad boy without a drip tip is the best thing since sliced bread. I actually prefer it this way now!

Although I must admit that from an outsider's perspective, it probably looks like I'm doing something I ought not to be doing.
 

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I've made my AgaT+ into a matte/brush finish.

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