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[wolandepiphanius]

I just got my Xtar WP2 II charger and two AW batteries, all my firsts. I hope all these things live up to their reputation. I'm really excited! I know, they're just batteries and a charger, but I get excited by new toys.

 

[The Hill Giant]

I just got my Xtar WP2 II charger and two AW batteries, all my firsts. I hope all these things live up to their reputation. I'm really excited! I know, they're just batteries and a charger, but I get excited by new toys.

It's a really good charger. I think as good as the Pila but for much less money. The AW batteries are definitely great, but I've actually switched to protected Panasonics myself. They're longer because they have the protected circuit, so it depends what device you're using whether or not you can use them.

Let me preface my little battery story with an explanation of a nivel chip feature, since it's relevant to the conversation.
One of the really nice things about the nivel chip is that it tells you when the battery no longer has enough juice to push the power you have it set to push, but it still keeps working. So for example, let's say I have it set to 13 watts. When the battery drains to the point where it can no longer push 13 watts, the wattage slowly goes down, but it still keeps working.

Anyway, I tested a few different batteries in this guy since I found I was tearing through 2000mah AW IMRs at a rate of 3 per day. I tried a couple protected Trustfire 3100mah batteries, and they were better, but not awesome. I was killing 2 a day.

Then I switched to the Panasonic IMR CGR18650CH Protected Button Top battery. Holy crap! It's only rated at 2250mah, so I'm not sure why this is, but these things can push 13 watts for an entire day in my Svoemesto. They usually start to drop below 13 watt output either right before I go to bed, or they last all day. Pretty impressive. Plus they're even safer than the AW's since they are IMR chemistry AND they are protected.

These guys: Panasonic IMR CGR18650CH Protected Button Top

Now, just remember, they are a little longer, so unless you are using a device that has a battery spring with some give, or a device that's telescopic, they might not fit.

 

[AndyInOC]

I just got my Xtar WP2 II charger and two AW batteries, all my firsts. I hope all these things live up to their reputation. I'm really excited! I know, they're just batteries and a charger, but I get excited by new toys.

I'm right there in the same boat, I received 3 phoenix clones yesterday and felt like a kid on Christmas morning when I was opening them. There's 2 of the UDT AGA attys heading my way as we speak and I'm full of anticipation to see them in person and vape my face off. All but one of my carto tanks were retired last night & I've gone completely rebuildable.

I think that xtar charger is in my future as well & a few more efest 18350 cells as well. I have a vmax & ovale vi, the wife is getting a provari mini this week & they all rock the same cell. Can never have too many

 

[wolandepiphanius]

It's a really good charger. I think as good as the Pila but for much less money. The AW batteries are definitely great, but I've actually switched to protected Panasonics myself. They're longer because they have the protected circuit, so it depends what device you're using whether or not you can use them.

Let me preface my little battery story with an explanation of a nivel chip feature, since it's relevant to the conversation.
One of the really nice things about the nivel chip is that it tells you when the battery no longer has enough juice to push the power you have it set to push, but it still keeps working. So for example, let's say I have it set to 13 watts. When the battery drains to the point where it can no longer push 13 watts, the wattage slowly goes down, but it still keeps working.

Anyway, I tested a few different batteries in this guy since I found I was tearing through 2000mah AW IMRs at a rate of 3 per day. I tried a couple protected Trustfire 3100mah batteries, and they were better, but not awesome. I was killing 2 a day.

Then I switched to the Panasonic IMR CGR18650CH Protected Button Top battery. Holy crap! It's only rated at 2250mah, so I'm not sure why this is, but these things can push 13 watts for an entire day in my Svoemesto. They usually start to drop below 13 watt output either right before I go to bed, or they last all day. Pretty impressive. Plus they're even safer than the AW's since they are IMR chemistry AND they are protected.

These guys: Panasonic IMR CGR18650CH Protected Button Top

Now, just remember, they are a little longer, so unless you are using a device that has a battery spring with some give, or a device that's telescopic, they might not fit.

Thanks Giant for the info! I have three lavatubes and a VV Gripper. I think the ICRs will fit in the lavatubes, but not in my VV Gripper. I have two ICRs, one's a 2600 panasonic, and a 2200 joytech. I've heard that IMRs perform better with VVs. Is that true? Or not entirely true?

 

[wolandepiphanius]

I'm right there in the same boat, I received 3 phoenix clones yesterday and felt like a kid on Christmas morning when I was opening them. There's 2 of the UDT AGA attys heading my way as we speak and I'm full of anticipation to see them in person and vape my face off. All but one of my carto tanks were retired last night & I've gone completely rebuildable.

I think that xtar charger is in my future as well & a few more efest 18350 cells as well. I have a vmax & ovale vi, the wife is getting a provari mini this week & they all rock the same cell. Can never have too many

The phoenix is a dripping rebuildable, right? How much liquid does it hold, approximately? I have the eternity heading my way, and hopefully be here by Thursday, and that holds approximately 35 drops, which is equivalent to an XL carto. I just don't like refilling too often. I've looked at the phoenix, and it does look nice.

 

[AndyInOC]

The phoenix is a dripping rebuildable, right? How much liquid does it hold, approximately? I have the eternity heading my way, and hopefully be here by Thursday, and that holds approximately 35 drops, which is equivalent to an XL carto. I just don't like refilling too often. I've looked at the phoenix, and it does look nice.

Yup, its a rebuildable dripper. Holds maybe 15 drops of liquid which doesn't measure up to the capacity of the eternity but in the coop that I got them in I believe they were $3.45 plus shipping etc each so ill roll with them Lol

 

[wolandepiphanius]

Yup, its a rebuildable dripper. Holds maybe 15 drops of liquid which doesn't measure up to the capacity of the eternity but in the coop that I got them in I believe they were $3.45 plus shipping etc each so ill roll with them Lol

Wow, that's outrageously cheap. Maybe I should join a coop. I guess I need to get verified first, though.

 

[lettucehead]

Thanks Giant for the info! I have three lavatubes and a VV Gripper. I think the ICRs will fit in the lavatubes, but not in my VV Gripper. I have two ICRs, one's a 2600 panasonic, and a 2200 joytech. I've heard that IMRs perform better with VVs. Is that true? Or not entirely true?

Actually the Panasonic IMR 18650 works fine in my VV Gripper.

Just an FYI.

 

[The Hill Giant]

Thanks Giant for the info! I have three lavatubes and a VV Gripper. I think the ICRs will fit in the lavatubes, but not in my VV Gripper. I have two ICRs, one's a 2600 panasonic, and a 2200 joytech. I've heard that IMRs perform better with VVs. Is that true? Or not entirely true?

I'm not entirely sure. The AW ones were not great in Svetlana, but the Panasonic ones have been fantastic. I never had issues with AW IMRs in any other devices, though. Maybe they don't handle high wattage as well. Hmmm.

 

[The Hill Giant]

Actually the Panasonic IMR 18650 works fine in my VV Gripper.

Just an FYI.

Yeah the non-protected ones will fit perfect. Just make sure you don't get the protected ones if your device doesn't have extra give. They have a little circuit inside the top of the battery that adds a few mm to the length.

 

[AndyInOC]

Wow, that's outrageously cheap. Maybe I should join a coop. I guess I need to get verified first, though.

Yeah verification is slightly necessary Lol, once you start doing coops you can't stop the madness

 

[lettucehead]

I'm not entirely sure. The AW ones were not great in Svetlana, but the Panasonic ones have been fantastic. I never had issues with AW IMRs in any other devices, though. Maybe they don't handle high wattage as well. Hmmm.

I've noticed something like this too -
The VV Gripper just goes through batteries like crazy.
The Panasonic lasts slightly longer, but it's still pretty nuts.

I wonder why that happens?
Why the VV Gripper, but not so much the LT?
Is it the PWM?

 

[The Hill Giant]

I've noticed something like this too -
The VV Gripper just goes through batteries like crazy.
The Panasonic lasts slightly longer, but it's still pretty nuts.

I wonder why that happens?
Why the VV Gripper, but not so much the LT?
Is it the PWM?

That's a good question and I'm not sure what the answer is. Are you vaping at a higher wattage than you used to?

 

[wolandepiphanius]

Thanks letttuce and giant. I guess I'll experiment with different battery types and see.

 

[AndyInOC]

Have any of you tried the efest batteries vs the aw? When i was initially looking into my vmax some members here were doing some interesting comparisons between the 2 companies and it looked as though the efest were delivering power and amperage at better rates than the aw was. Kind of lost track of it all and it was getting uber techy as well.

 

[wolandepiphanius]

I've been using efest batteries for a while now, and just got AW this week. I'll let you know how both compare. I hear though that technically they're supposed to be similar batteries.

 

[iKN0WaGH0ST]

Going off what giant said about the Panasonic batteries... I use them and they work great! I got mine off amazon for $7 each shipped, but they just sold out. You can also get them for pretty cheap off eBay. Here is the cheapest I found..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PANASONIC-C...US_Rechargeable_Batteries&hash=item35bc66c5e7

$17.50 shipped for two batteries isnt bad at all.

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[iKN0WaGH0ST]

So I'm getting my ody tomorrow! Ended up being fortunate enough to get a straight trade for my REO package. I'll probably put it up for trade in hopes to get a Penelope as a straight trade. Giant, do you do the double wick configuration like I see in many tutorials? Where there is the long wick and short wick?

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[wolandepiphanius]

Going off what giant said about the Panasonic batteries... I use them and they work great! I got mine off amazon for $7 each shipped, but they just sold out. You can also get them for pretty cheap off eBay. Here is the cheapest I found..

Panasonic CGR18650CH High Drain 10A Hybrid IMR Li ion 18650 Battery CGR18650 x 2 | eBay

$17.50 shipped for two batteries isnt bad at all.

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Thanks Ghost. Maybe when my unbranded bats give out, I'll pick these up.

 

[lettucehead]

Just a heads up, but Vaporheads.net has good price on batteries and and a 20% off coupon going on.
Coupon code 'Halloween'.

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