Having a really hard time finding an all day vape....and mini reviews.

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I apologize if I am posting in the wrong place. I guess this is more of just a question, and the reviews are just throne in there to give you an idea of what I've tried.

It's been about a year and a half since I started into the e-cig life in attempts to quit analogs. It worked well at first, getting down to all but two analogs a day. Had a really hard time with my morning cigs and coffee. After about 9 months the frustration of constantly fiddling (mega titan 510), things just not working as they were supposed to and wasting hundreds of dollars on juice that just didn't cut it. I gave up. About a month ago I pulled the trigger on the Tank, and so far everything has been working great.....except the juice issue. So here is a list of everything I've tried and little mini reviews on each.

TW Red Label
Tobacco - This is the flavor that came with my kit. It is still mine and my wifes favorite, and the only one I can stomach for days at a time. I don't see anybody ever talking about this one. To me it tastes like a new pack of cigs smell, but sweeter. Kind of raisony. I would really like to find something like it, but in the pharmaceutical grade lines.

Cherry - Also one of my favorites, tastes like a cherry jelly belly. Really good when mixed with the tobacco.

Orange - Taste OK, but has a chemical taste to it that eventually upsets my stomach. Also my first foray into nicotine overdose. I used it while testing trouble atomizers, and ended up almost puking. So, will never be ordering this again.

State Express - Absolutely disgusting. I realize there are many people who like this flavor, but to me it was down right horrible. Since when do analogs taste like nuts. Don't really know why, maybe I'm just sensitive, but instant gag reflex.

Vanilla - Wasn't bad at all, tasted like vanilla. A little sweat but nice when mixed with tobacco. Still wouldn't vape it all day.

TW Decadent Vapour
Apple - Don't love it, don't hate it. Taste like apple crisp to me. But gets old fairly quick.

Blackcurrant - Fruity, that's about it. I have about the same opinion on all the fruit flavors from this line. They usually taste like there supposed to, but I just can't do 'em for very long. They also all seem to have some sort of underlying taste that I can't put my finger on. I guess maybe chalky?

Black cherry - Tastes like black cherry, with something else I find fairly unpleasant.

Doppio Expresso - Really good, hit the nail on the head. Taste like a lovely latte. Unfortunately, I also grow tiered of this flavor fairly quickly. Basically the time it takes to drink a latte, is about all I can take of this one, but it's still very good to have every once and a while.

Sour Cherry - I was really hoping this would be more like the Red Label cherry, more of a candy flavor. What I got was something that tastes exactly like cherry pie filling.

Strawberry tart - Love strawberry, my favorite fruit. To me the only thing I can compare the taste to is Yoplait strawberry custard yogurts. The kind I used to enjoy frozen when I was a kid. That being said, it aint bad, but I can only handle it for a very short amount of time.

TW Patriot Range
Cherry - Can we say Cherry Nyquil. Awful, awful stuff. I've had cough syrup taste better than this.

KaMel - I really can't describe how this tastes, all I know is it doesn't resemble analogs in anyway. Kind of tastes like the stuff I mop my floor with. Surprisingly though I can handle it for a little while. The exhale vapor smells downright awful.

Tobacco Americano - Tastes like a week old relight that's been rained on, dried out, and then dipped in maple syrup. I think that sums it up.

Halocigs Liquids (the only other juice I've tried other than TWs)
Freedom - Not much of a taste, but tolerable. The problem with this is on the exhale. The exhale smells like a church nursery, (baby smells, but not the good kind). Kind of a strange description but that's all I can think of, grew up Baptist.

Smooth 8 - Wish I had known this before ordering, but I guess this is the Halo version of KaMel (or the other way around). It tastes almost exactly the same.

Torque 56 - Same thing as above, but tastes identical to Tobacco Americano...relight+maple syrup.


So, that's it everything I've tried so far. Out of all those, the only thing I've order more than once is the Red Label Tobacco, and RL Cherry (which the second time ordering the cherry wasn't as good as the first). I would really like to find something in the premium pharmaceutical grades that I can return to day in and day out. Does anyone know if there is something using pharmaceutical grade ingredients that tastes similar to the TW's Red Lable Tobacco? Haven't tried any of the Black Labels yet. I'm hesitant to try anything that doesn't have a sample size. I've got 6 or 7 30ml bottles of juice sittin' around doin' nothin'. I can't afford to be buying like that (and the wifey isn't so stoked on it ether). She actually shares the same exact taste as me to all of the juices we've tried. Anyway, thanks for your time, and I apologize for the wall of text.
 

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Are there any local meetings in your area? If you can go to a meeting you'll be able to try flavors without spending tons of $$.

I smoked menthol cigarettes for 36 years, and now I can't stand menthol. My favorite flavors are sweet, dessert type flavors, and actually my favorite juice was one I didn't even order, it was a free sample that was included in my order, and it isn't something I ever would have even thought about ordering. I've been vaping since August, and my taste buds are still changing. Only recently I've found that I don't like high PG juices, and have been vaping Kick Bass Vapors which is 60%VG, and also ordered some 100%VG juice from Velvet Vapors.

I went to Philly Vapefest, and got lots of free samples, and I've also gotten samples from other vape meets. There are vendors that sell small samples, Velvet Vapors has 3ml sampler packs, I haven't had one juice from there that wasn't at least good. I really can't help you with tobacco flavors, but I do have an eGo tank, and I find that the flavors are somewhat muted compared to dripping, which I prefer.

It can be frustrating, trying to find the right combination that works for you, but my experience has been that all the duds have made me appreciate the ones I like even more. And compared to the $8.28 a pack a day I was paying, I am still better off financially. Now if I could only stop buying mods, I'd be all set.
 

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If you like tobacco vapes, I highly recommend trying out some Backwoods Brew. They have an extremely loyal following, and for good reason. My absolute all-time favorite vape comes from here (Casablanca Blend). BWB's tobacco juices are singular and some of the finest in the business.

I also heartily recommend VapeRite and Alien Visions for their tobacco vapes. Boba's Bounty from Alien Visions is one of the classics of the vaping world and is quite simply sublime. I'd have to place Boba's in second place in my favorite vape list (a close second to the BWB Casablance Blend mentioned above).

I can say that since you're used to TW's ridiculous pricing and dismal customer service, if nothing else you will be pleasantly surprised by the value and service all of the suppliers I have mentioned will provide for you. Good luck finding that go-to vape.
 

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I dont really know what you are referring to as "pharmaceutical grade lines", nor have I tried the TW Red label, but for a nice smooth tobacco-ish vape without the pepper undertone try a 5mL sample of FSUSA Royal, oRYental 4 and Oba Oba - if you get a 5ml sample let steep for a few days and at least one night with top and dripper nip off overnight before you give them a go.

As for the 6-7 30mL unliked bottles, you can utilize the PIF threads to swap when you see something that interests you or the classifieds to try to recoupe some of your investment to put towards others. If you have not tried and enjoyed something it is a much safer bet to order a smaller bottle initially to try.

These are not hard tobacco flavors, though. I have found it important to ME that an all day needs to be a lighter flavor, and those really hit a homerun for me. https://freedomsmokeusa.com/ current coupon code is aprilfresh for 25% off while it lasts which wont be long :)
 

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current coupon code is aprilfresh for 25% off while it lasts which wont be long :)

Where do you find the special codes for FSUSA? I've been watching their board that is supposed to list sales and haven't seen it. Also, these guys are awesome and I absolutely second your recommendation to pick up some of their juice.
 

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There is one on their homepage(at least there used to be) near the bottom. %10 off I think. It's good if they aren't having a sale. +1 for ObaOba, also Hypnotic Mist. Those are the only two of thier tobaccos I can stand. Their ingredients are high grade as well. Many places have cheap samples. I also really like Welcome to MadVapes LLC. Cheap samples and shipping. Don't go for the China flavors if you don't like nuts (I happen to agree with you on the nut thing. A nutty tobacco flavor is NOT the same thing as nut flavored, or nutshell flavored, which is closer to what I taste in MOST China liquids.)
 

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There is one on their homepage(at least there used to be) near the bottom. %10 off I think. It's good if they aren't having a sale.

Right, the 10% is always there. I'm wondering about the "aprilfresh" 25% off. It works, I just used it, just wondering where you find these things....
 

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Probably the most popular flavor dating back to '09 is RY4. Light, smooth tobacco with an subtle undertone of vanilla and caramel. Every suppliers RY4, however is different and many times widely different. The one that comes closes to the most popluar version from '09 is Janty's RY4: Janty electronic cigarettes, e-liquids and carts - Janty E-liquid

If you like a very smooth and light tobacco flavor, I would suggest "Home Counties" from Liberty Flights: E Liquid - E Liquid 5ML - PG - Tobaccos
 

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I almost completely gave up on "Tobacco" flavors until I got hold of some Caramel Tobacco from Bluemist. Very nice and is now my go to all day favorite.

i just ordered this yesterday, i havent tried it before but hoping its vapable. havent tried any caramel tobaccos yet, come to think of it.
 

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Wow, pretty exhausting list "o Cubby o", but great review and very well written.
I readily agree with the other posters, there are so many great juices out there. Like you I had a really hard, read expensive, time finding an all-day vape.
I got into DIY just to try my hand at it and now I make all my own juice. I will try other juices when I hear something I cannot resist, but I like my DIY stuff. You could always go this route and then tailor a flavor o your liking.
 

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I also love bluemist caramel tobacco (and got some yesterday for a great price!!) I vape it out of the bottle but I also diy.. I play with the caramel tobacco, I just poureded out a few ml in a little bottle.. added a bit more nic.. a bit more vg and some capella's double chocolate. YUM!

I've never understood the all day vape thing.. (I have no interest in vaping the same flavor all day and would get tired of it fast if I did!) I usually vape waffles in the morning and then switch around the rest of the evening. Right now I have six little bottles sitting in front of me and I drip from all of them. But then again I drip exclusively and all my diy juices are flavors that mix well together. I tend to use one atty at a time.. I like bluemist cinnabun and orange cream but they don't mix well with the others and I'm too cheap to designate a single atty to a single flavor.

Even if I ever went back to buying premade juices (yesterday was the exception to the rule) I would still have to have my own favorite flavoring and play with them (like I'm doing with the premade caramel tobacco).
 
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Thank you all for your responses. Sounds like there are some things I've got to try.

Someone asked me what I mean by Pharmaceutical ingredients. In the US it's called USP Verification. Pharmaceutical Ingredient Verification helps companies reach best practice quality management. USP experts provide drug substance manufacturers with Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP) auditing, document review, laboratory testing, and ongoing change reporting and surveillance.

Much of TWs liquids come with this verification. Many of the Chinese companies (and US ones) just don't say where they get there propylene glycol or nicotine from. It could be totally fine, it could be better than what's in USA made juice, but who knows. All in all, if I'm going to put something into my body I really like to know where it came from. (which really doesn't make sense after coming off a pack a day for 10 years and not knowing or caring what was in my cig, anyway...)

There is soooo many companies out there and soooo many different kinds of liquids, that it's very daunting, which is why I've pretty much stayed with TW (even with there prices, and I've ever only had great customer service from them). I'm also a sucker for good packaging.
 

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You mentioned liking a juice that had a sort of raisiny taste that you liked. I would recommend Vaperite Organic APV Tobacco. It is a rich smooth tobacco with a nice full raisin or prune flavor. I think that it resembles the filling in a good prune danish. I love the stuff. I would also recommend Backwoods Brew Casablanca. Great tobacco taste with just a touch of cocoa. Not chocolate but baker's type cocoa. It is my all day, all week vape. I love others, but Casa is the one that is always close at hand. Hope you find something that meets your needs. It's taken me almost 6 months to find the right one, and the search for another will probably continue. Best to you.
 

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Someone asked me what I mean by Pharmaceutical ingredients. In the US it's called USP Verification. Pharmaceutical Ingredient Verification helps companies reach best practice quality management. USP experts provide drug substance manufacturers with Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP) auditing, document review, laboratory testing, and ongoing change reporting and surveillance.
I think you would have a really hard time finding someone who does NOT use USP grade ingredients.
It is so much of a given that everyone MUST use USP grade that nobody probably even bothers to mention it anymore.
 

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I think one of the most important qualities in an all day vape is the quality of the base and the intensity of the flavor etc...

I can't vape intense liquid all day...

right now, my all day vapes include a handful from BWB: Dulce, Vanilla, RY4, cheery tob...
want2vape's creme brulee. alien vision's boba's and gamel...
primevaping's love from above... and LX's taboo
 
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