Having loads of trouble with butterscotch DIY

[wiz22]

Yea I can not seem to get a good butterscotch flavor.. They all seem to be muted badly. I'm using this recipe
Butterscotch 3%
Butterscotch Ripple 3%
Caramel 5%
Caramel Candy 5%
Vanilla Custard v1 3%
Erythritol Solution 1% or Sucralose 1% or no Sweetner at all
In a 70vg/30pg 1.5 mg base but I just can't seem to get it to "taste" like butterscotch, Smells great but really no taste to speak of.. Looking to have a strong butterscotch taste then I inhale. what am I doing wrong and how do I fix it

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Yea I can not seem to get a good butterscotch flavor.. They all seem to be muted badly. I'm using this recipe
Butterscotch 3%
Butterscotch Ripple 3%
Caramel 5%
Caramel Candy 5%
Vanilla Custard v1 3%
Erythritol Solution 1% or Sucralose 1% or no Sweetner at all
In a 70vg/30pg 1.5 mg base but I just can't seem to get it to "taste" like butterscotch, Smells great but really no taste to speak of.. Looking to have a strong butterscotch taste then I inhale. what am I doing wrong and how do I fix it

Hello.

First of all what manufacturers flavors are you using? Most have the same flavors but profiles and concentrations all differ. It is always important to say which you are using to help others help you.

Every flavor in your recipe needs aged(steeped) so if you are trying for a shake and vape this could be the problem. Allow at least 3-5 days in a dark cabinet with the cap off, replace cap to shake daily, remove cap and forget about it. Within a week you will start to see vast improvements.

Good luck and let us know how it is going.

 

[SteveS45]

I use the Butterscotch Graham as one of my ADV's so what vendor are you using? Liguid Barn for me here............

 

[zoiDman]

Yea I can not seem to get a good butterscotch flavor.. They all seem to be muted badly. I'm using this recipe
Butterscotch 3%
Butterscotch Ripple 3%
Caramel 5%
Caramel Candy 5%
Vanilla Custard v1 3%
Erythritol Solution 1% or Sucralose 1% or no Sweetner at all
In a 70vg/30pg 1.5 mg base but I just can't seem to get it to "taste" like butterscotch, Smells great but really no taste to speak of.. Looking to have a strong butterscotch taste then I inhale. what am I doing wrong and how do I fix it

Two Questions...

How Long had the mix sat when you Tasted it?

And... Have you tried Mixing at a Lower Total Flavoring Percentage? You are at 19% right now.

 

[wiz22]

Sorry.. So ya
Butterscotch ripple (FW)
Caramel, Caramel candy, Vanilla Custard, and Butterscotch (Signature which I think is TFA)..
I was understanding that you shouldn't breath the juice for more then 12 hours or it would lose flavor, is this wrong??
Umm. I try to give it at lest three days to steep (not with cap off) before I vape it

 

[wiz22]

Oh and thanks to all who are helping

 

[zoiDman]

Sorry.. So ya
Butterscotch ripple (FW)
Caramel, Caramel candy, Vanilla Custard, and Butterscotch (Signature which I think is TFA)..
I was understanding that you shouldn't breath the juice for more then 12 hours or it would lose flavor, is this wrong??
Umm. I try to give it at lest three days to steep (not with cap off) before I vape it

If your Mix sat for 3 Days after mixing, you should have a Decent Idea of what it will taste like.

I would suggest Dialing Back the total flavoring to 10 ~ 12% and see what happens.

Might also help to Add 4 or 5 Drops of water per 30ml of Mix.

 

[dobroeutro]

Yea I can not seem to get a good butterscotch flavor.. They all seem to be muted badly. I'm using this recipe
Butterscotch 3%
Butterscotch Ripple 3%
Caramel 5%
Caramel Candy 5%
Vanilla Custard v1 3%
Erythritol Solution 1% or Sucralose 1% or no Sweetner at all
In a 70vg/30pg 1.5 mg base but I just can't seem to get it to "taste" like butterscotch, Smells great but really no taste to speak of.. Looking to have a strong butterscotch taste then I inhale. what am I doing wrong and how do I fix it

Why not drop the caramels & custard and just focus on the butterscotch 1st. The caramel & custard %'s are double the butterscotch and only a distraction from the flavor you want. I'm not surprised that you're not getting "a strong butterscotch taste". Why not just try Butterscotch (TFA) 6% & Butterscotch Ripple (FW) 6% and see if that doesn't get you closer to what you're looking for. After mixing, leave the cap off for 24 hours & allow to age, shaking daily for a week. Good luck...

 

[wiz22]

Why not drop the caramels & custard and just focus on the butterscotch 1st. The caramel & custard %'s are double the butterscotch and only a distraction from the flavor you want. I'm not surprised that you're not getting "a strong butterscotch taste". Why not just try Butterscotch (TFA) 6% & Butterscotch Ripple (FW) 6% and see if that doesn't get you closer to what you're looking for. After mixing, leave the cap off for 24 hours & allow to age, shaking daily for a week. Good luck...

I'll give that a try thanks

 

[dc99]

butterscotch 8%
caramel 3%
Bavarian cream 4%
All TFA. It takes a few days of steeping

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Sorry.. So ya
Butterscotch ripple (FW)
Caramel, Caramel candy, Vanilla Custard, and Butterscotch (Signature which I think is TFA)..
I was understanding that you shouldn't breath the juice for more then 12 hours or it would lose flavor, is this wrong??
Umm. I try to give it at lest three days to steep (not with cap off) before I vape it

The reasons for leaving the cap off on new mixes can be for allowing any ethyl alcohol to evaporate and will help to start the aging process. It may be the alcohol will be gone in 24 hrs. Shake and give a drop on the finger test to taste. If you don't taste any alcohol then put the cap back on and return the bottle to dark area to age. If alcohol is still present then the cap needs to remain off for a bit longer. I have never lost any flavor by doing this.

 

[wiz22]

butterscotch 8%
caramel 3%
Bavarian cream 4%
All TFA. It takes a few days of steeping

I'll try that

 

[wiz22]

Why not drop the caramels & custard and just focus on the butterscotch 1st. The caramel & custard %'s are double the butterscotch and only a distraction from the flavor you want. I'm not surprised that you're not getting "a strong butterscotch taste". Why not just try Butterscotch (TFA) 6% & Butterscotch Ripple (FW) 6% and see if that doesn't get you closer to what you're looking for. After mixing, leave the cap off for 24 hours & allow to age, shaking daily for a week. Good luck...

Gave it a try.. not what I was looking for, but I liked it all the same.. TY for a new vape..

 

[dobroeutro]

Gave it a try.. not what I was looking for, but I liked it all the same.. TY for a new vape..

Sorry, it didn't turn into what you were looking for but glad it was something you like. Maybe worth playing around with to get closer to your ideal...

 

[tazzle]

@wiz22, here's a recipe called Royal Butterscotch by notcharlesmanson at Reddit that sounds good to me. One thing I noticed about it is that it includes brown sugar, which seems smart since one of the things that makes butterscotch different than caramel is that butterscotch is made with brown sugar, while caramel is made with white sugar. Anyway, worth having a look!

 

[wiz22]

@wiz22, here's a recipe called Royal Butterscotch by notcharlesmanson at Reddit that sounds good to me. One thing I noticed about it is that it includes brown sugar, which seems smart since one of the things that makes butterscotch different than caramel is that butterscotch is made with brown sugar, while caramel is made with white sugar. Anyway, worth having a look!

Ok thanks

 

[wiz22]

ok Have stepped back from the butterScotch for a while ( don't want to drive myself crazy looking for one when there are millions out there to try..want to try some other things.. so what do you guys like? love to hear what you are making

 

[Robino1]

Moved to DIY E-liquid from the Extracted tobacco section of the DIY forum.

 

[SteveS45]

The Liquid Barn Butter Scotch Graham Tobacco had become a new favorite of mine~! Damn it never order enough on the first order!

 

[EarnestAccord]

Yea I can not seem to get a good butterscotch flavor.. They all seem to be muted badly. I'm using this recipe
Butterscotch 3%
Butterscotch Ripple 3%
Caramel 5%
Caramel Candy 5%
Vanilla Custard v1 3%
Erythritol Solution 1% or Sucralose 1% or no Sweetner at all
In a 70vg/30pg 1.5 mg base but I just can't seem to get it to "taste" like butterscotch, Smells great but really no taste to speak of.. Looking to have a strong butterscotch taste then I inhale. what am I doing wrong and how do I fix it

I'm totally in line with the above advice being drop the non-essentials and drop a little in you %'s. An additional note would be to add, counter intuitive here, a little TFA Strawberry Ripe or Dragonfruit to your mix. Sub-perceptual level of 2% or .5% respectively. That wil create the ever so slight contrasting in your recipe that will make the Butterscotch stand out and apart from, with-out being discernible as "fruit"