Hawaii Considers Raising Minimum Smoking Age to 100

[dreamvaper]

The state of Hawaii is considering amending the current smoking regulations, to incrementally raise the legal age at which one can purchase cigarettes to 100.

The legislation was proposed by democratic state representative Richard Creagan, and if implemented it would ultimately lead to an unprecedented ban on the sale of cigarettes in Hawaii, making it the first US state to implement such as measure.

Like in many other US states, currently Hawaiians must be 21 in order to be able to purchase cigarettes, but under the proposals, the age would rise to 30 in 2020, 40 in 2021, 50 in 2022, 60 in 2023, and then jump from 60 to 100 in 2024. Thankfully the age limit would not apply to safer alternatives such as e-cigarettes and snus.

Full article Here

 

[dreamvaper]

Before someone else will do it:
- Yo mama is so old, she's allowed to smoke on Hawaii

 

[B2L]

I don’t know exactly how the MSA funds are dispersed and if a state would forfeit the rights to them if it basically outlawed smoking, but if that is the case (which I would think it is) then it will never happen.

David Y. Ige | HAWAII RECEIVES IN EXCESS OF $84 MILLION FROM TOBACCO COMPANIES

 

[dreamvaper]

$84 Mil? Ok Ok, we'll lower the age limit to 84, no problem.

 

[Rossum]

I don’t know exactly how the MSA funds are dispersed and if a state would forfeit the rights to them if it basically outlawed smoking, but if that is the case (which I would think it is) then it will never happen.

David Y. Ige | HAWAII RECEIVES IN EXCESS OF $84 MILLION FROM TOBACCO COMPANIES

In addition to MSA funds, there's also the $3.20 per pack that Hawaii collects in taxes themselves. ...

 

[puffon]

The proposal failed to pass
https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.co...igarette-ban-measure-fails-to-pass-committee/

 

[marianna]

The state of Hawaii is considering amending the current smoking regulations, to incrementally raise the legal age at which one can purchase cigarettes to 100.

I think there is enough place on Hawaii to grow your own tobacco.

 

[bombastinator]

I think there is enough place on Hawaii to grow your own tobacco.

There is and there isn’t. Most of the land is bare rock or has less than an inch of top soil. The big island has more, and actually has a good bit of agriculture, but land is fearsomely expensive on all the islands. Back when I lived there in high school the pot growers all stakes out secret patches in the national parks and guarded them with things like land mines and shotgun traps, making the national parks too dangerous to wander in.

 

[Rossum]

Back when I lived there in high school the pot growers all stakes out secret patches in the national parks and guarded them with things like land mines and shotgun traps, making the national parks too dangerous to wander in.

Wouldn't it be ironic if those plots ended up being used to grow tobacco in the future?

 

[bombastinator]

Wouldn't it be ironic if those plots ended up being used to grow tobacco in the future?

Wouldn’t work. Tobacco is more fragile. It needs to be grown under an insecticide impregnated Muslin tent. Too easy to see.

Besides I’m not worried about the Hawaiian legislation. It’s a bill with a sole proponent who is famous for being a sensationalist wingnut in the first place. It will go nowhere.

There are sensationalist wingnuts on both sides of the aisle at both state and federal levels everywhere.

 

[Rossum]

Tobacco is more fragile. It needs to be grown under an insecticide impregnated Muslin tent.

Huh?
http://www.kauaicigar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Cigar-Times-No1.pdf

tobacco field at DuckDuckGo

 

[bombastinator]

Huh?
http://www.kauaicigar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Cigar-Times-No1.pdf

tobacco field at DuckDuckGo

Hmmm.. perhaps they don’t have tobacco hornworms where that one modern picture was taken. Tobacco hornworms and cockroaches (and their susceptibility to juvenile hormone inhibitors) were my dad’s jam back when he did research for the USDA in the 70s and 80s. I know way too much about them. It was all about US production though.

They take the tents down before harvest

 

[marianna]

Wouldn’t work. Tobacco is more fragile. It needs to be grown under an insecticide impregnated Muslin tent.......

Tobacco plants grow very easily, even in the Netherlands. I sowed them indoors and allowed them to grow up until they became too big, and then moved to my sunny balcony.
Outdoors I only had to remove a snail once in a while.

I bought the seeds from > Pieter <

 

[bombastinator]

Tobacco plants grow very easily, even in the Netherlands. I sowed them indoors and allowed them to grow up until they became too big, and then moved to my sunny balcony.
Outdoors I only had to remove a snail once in a while.

I bought the seeds from > Pieter <

That makes sense. It’s a shade plant and there aren’t any tobacco hornworms in the Netherlands
Manduca sexta - Wikipedia

 

[marianna]

Is it forbidden to just kill those worms?

And yes, if the temperature became too high, I moved the plants (still in pots) to the shadow, otherwise I would have to give them water a few times a day.