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If it was just about vaping it might not be THAT bad, but you are right everything is getting completely insane in this country. People wanting full fledged socialism, sharia law, wanting government to control what we eat, drink, vape or not, etc. I don't even recognize this place any more. I am actually strongly considering retiring out of the country to try and escape the insanity before it fully takes over. Considering Panama or Chile as the current top prospects. I have not checked on their vape laws yet so that might rule one or more of them out.
You are absolutely right!
Can a person be "Woke" and "Triggered" at the same time?
Stupid me, they can![emoji23]
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Ban first, ask questions and research later. Manipulate public for more lobby money and better profit margins.
The current anti vaping climate is a result of extreme ignorance, horrible journalism, mass hysteria, stupidity, and the existence of a black market of certain items that are illegal.
Had the substance been legal everywhere, then there would be no market for anybody having to resort to buying certain items on the street, items which can certainly be unsafe, such as certain oils, and counterfeit products, where nobody has any idea what ingredients are included or how theyre made.
Vaping is a delivery method. Vaping can of course be dangerous if somebody is vaping something which contains an ingredient that should not be vaped.
It might even be a product that was deliberately made to harm or to kill.
Its like alcohol. People have died from bad moonshine, and There are hundreds of links that you can find and read about many hundreds or thousands who have died from toxic moonshine. Did they ban all alcoholic beverages because of that toxic moonshine, or engage in mass hysteria warning people to stop drinking all alcohol?
Had the substance been legal everywhere, then there would be no market for anybody having to resort to buying certain items on the street, items which can certainly be unsafe, such as certain oils, and counterfeit products, where nobody has any idea what ingredients are included or how theyre made.
Vaping is a delivery method. Vaping can of course be dangerous if somebody is vaping something which contains an ingredient that should not be vaped.
It might even be a product that was deliberately made to harm or to kill.
Its like alcohol. People have died from bad moonshine, and There are hundreds of links that you can find and read about many hundreds or thousands who have died from toxic moonshine. Did they ban all alcoholic beverages because of that toxic moonshine, or engage in mass hysteria warning people to stop drinking all alcohol?
I find that those who are «woke» are also the first ones to also become «triggered». I am proud to be an anti woke person.
Legal market in actuality has little impact on the black market. In most states where the other stuff is legal the black market retains 80% of its revenue. States tax it way too high and possession itself is legal, no real incentive to buy from legal vendors.
Its hard to get too specific since the subject is not allowed to be talked about on this forum, but I was specifically thinking about the vape based products containing that substance on the black market, not the subtsance by itself.
I myself have come across counterfeit vape based items and I personally stay away from them, but the non vape based substance by itself I have no second thoughts about obtaining on the black market.
Look, the guy is a politician. He just got his face and name plastered all over the networks, and delivered a perfect click bait sound bite. He just did what politicians strive for, name recognition and easy (although ineffective) solutions to complex problems. From that perspective he did great.
I do wish that 15 years ago when he was first elected he would have called for the immediate ban of cigarettes that kill over 400,000 Americans a year. He could have saved millions of lives. A shame it wouldn't have played so well in the media as his current sound bite does, or I guess he might have done it.
I do wish that 15 years ago when he was first elected he would have called for the immediate ban of cigarettes that kill over 400,000 Americans a year. He could have saved millions of lives. A shame it wouldn't have played so well in the media as his current sound bite does, or I guess he might have done it.
And right on time, a propagandist, I mean doctor, lobed out the tired !popcorn lung! bomb on the FNC morning show.
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No, they banned all alcoholic beverages first. This then gave rise to the moonshiners, because where there's a demand, someone will create a supply.
Doing that would also have created the largest black market this country has seen since the Volstead Act was the law of the land.
When I was younger, I used to find it funny how easily most people are manipulated and how, for the most part, they just blindly follow whatever the current trend is at the moment. I thought that easily accessed information via the internet would prove useful in changing that mindset but clearly I was wrong. It appears to have done just the opposite and made the situation even worse.
I am no longer amused. While they may be somewhat cute, lemmings are simply not good role models for long term success.
I am no longer amused. While they may be somewhat cute, lemmings are simply not good role models for long term success.
I'm not sure about that. It seems to me there is a larger portion of people who question the official narrative today than when it came from the mouth of Walter Cronkite each evening at 7pm.
True, perhaps it is just perception on my part based on how quickly the narrative is spread these days.
Maybe there is some hope for us yet, lol.
Black market THC and other additives seem to be the blame, I would go with my present juice supplier and ask that supplier to be sure not to add any new additives or THC to the product and vape on...............
True, there was prohibition, but I was thinking more of modern times, where there have been many deaths from toxic moonshine.
In 2019, in a single incident in India, more than 150 died from toxic moonshine and left hundreds hospitalized. Nobody called for a banning of alcohol after that.
I was trying to make a comparison between that and the recent vaping illnesses, as I believe that in both cases, the people consumed a bad product.
DICK Durbin's got the right name at least!
They should think about banning people that are complete (EDITED), those who are only interested in the money they can make, the power and influence they can gain, from holding any Political Office.
Wait...........................Lets this about this then, there would only be a couple left in place HELL YES IT WOULD WORK.
They should think about banning people that are complete (EDITED), those who are only interested in the money they can make, the power and influence they can gain, from holding any Political Office.
Wait...........................Lets this about this then, there would only be a couple left in place HELL YES IT WOULD WORK.
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