Healthiest way to vape?

[justagurlinseattle]

My friend was showing me his setup, andit seems like "fun" per say, as in when my friends go out for a smoke break, I can go with them and not look like an ... by just standing there, or staying inside by myself. I want to join them in the healthiest way possible

UUmm... that is just a strange way of joining your friends.. If you go outside
and just talk to them, you don't look like ANYTHING..

NOBODY judges
a person for just standing outside talking to their friends who smoke. If anything,
people will think YOU are the smart one for NOT smoking.

This is just crazy!!!!
I would give ANYTHING to be the person standing outside JUST TALKING
'and not outside to smoke or vape...


This is also what the politicians are worried about, that NON smokers will start vaping.
If people start doing this in large numbers, it is going to make things
harder for the people who need vaping as a means to quit smoking.

If you do decide to do this... Which is a VERY bad idea...
PLEASE decline doing any polls on vaping and smoking, it will just end up making
the vaping community look bad.

 

[justagurlinseattle]

Geez! More ammo for ANTZ ... experienced vapers saying that vaping is harmful whilst at the same time pushing for vaping rights ... hope SIMON isn't reading this...

It is harmful ON VIRGIN LUNGS... Nobody has EVER said otherwise. It is in fact safer than smoking.

I have to agree with the others who said that vaping, just to look cool
is childish.
and yes, it does make it harder for the vaping community. The people who are against
vaping, use this very excuse to try to ban it.. they say it will make smoking COOL again
that it will make non smokers want to start vaping.

OP would have done better by saying that they were having a rough time, and
they were thinking of smoking to get through the stress...
BUT, taking up vaping, just to look cool and fit in.... Holy smokes.. that is just crazy.


and yes, once you take on a hand to mouth habit like smoking or vaping,
it is one of the HARDEST things to quit.

 

[cllmda]

Hmm..to me vaping is one of the "pleasures" of life and, especially with zero nic, I dont see why it should necessarily be off limits to non-smokers.

I mean its like having a drink of liquor or even eating a very fatty greasy food or a sugar-heavy pastry!

Sure it's BAD for you, to an extent....but what would life be if you cut out every single thing that you enjoyed but that was potentially "not so great" for you healthwise?

Yes, there's always the option of drinking only fresh spring water and a few raw carrots but most people couldnt handle such a stark regimen.

Like everything , you have to do it in a"reasonnable" non-excessive way & with the right balance,but for me Vaping IS "fun" as a hobby and I certainly do enjoy all the great flavors (certain dessert flavors has often replaced a "real" dessert for me!).

So,in general I dont personnally see anything wrong with an adult,even non-smoker, taking it up with zero nic so as to enjoy the many fabulous flavors and the "fun" hobby-side as well!

In this particular case however, what disturbs me a bit is that the poster appears to be very young and I get the impression that maybe his desire to vape stems more from wanting to "look cool", do like others/his friends and that sounds an awful lot like all the wrong reasons to me ....?

Actually....Sounds alot like why most of us started smoking way back when = I started ,hanging out in front of school with my friends, at 16...?
As others have said this is one of the prime examples brandished by politicians and TERRIBLE publicity for the vaping community .

And the previous poster who warned against the habit forming effect it has ie. the gesture, the habit of "holding something in your hand" is SO RIGHT .
I think that's one of the main reasons I continued smoking after I had started, the part I really couldnt "break", so she's absolutely right to warn against it because it's so hard to "un-do" once you start!

Of course I dont know the OP, Im just guessing and may be completely wrong about his motivations, if that's the case i apologize, just have your best interests at heart !!!!

 

[justagurlinseattle]

Hmm..to me vaping is one of the "pleasures" of life and, especially with zero nic, I dont see why it should necessarily be off limits to non-smokers.

I mean its like having a drink of liquor or even eating a very fatty greasy food or a sugar-heavy pastry!

Sure it's BAD for you, to an extent....but what would life be if you cut out every single thing that you enjoyed but that was potentially "not so great" for you healthwise?

Yes, there's always the option of drinking only fresh spring water and a few raw carrots but most people couldnt handle such a stark regimen.

Like everything , you have to do it in a"reasonnable" non-excessive way & with the right balance,but for me Vaping IS "fun" as a hobby and I certainly do enjoy all the great flavors (certain dessert flavors has often replaced a "real" dessert for me!).

So,in general I dont personnally see anything wrong with an adult,even non-smoker, taking it up with zero nic so as to enjoy the many fabulous flavors and the "fun" hobby-side as well!

In this particular case however, what disturbs me a bit is that the poster appears to be very young and I get the impression that maybe his desire to vape stems more from wanting to "look cool", do like others/his friends and that sounds an awful lot like all the wrong reasons to me ....?

Actually....Sounds alot like why most of us started smoking way back when = I started ,hanging out in front of school with my friends, at 16...?
As others have said this is one of the prime examples brandished by politicians and TERRIBLE publicity for the vaping community .

And the previous poster who warned against the habit forming effect it has ie. the gesture, the habit of "holding something in your hand" is SO RIGHT .
I think that's one of the main reasons I continued smoking after I had started, the part I really couldnt "break", so she's absolutely right to warn against it because it's so hard to "un-do"!

Of course I dont know the OP, Im just guessing and may be completely wrong about his motivations, if that's the case i apologize, just have your best interests at heart !!!!

Exactly!!! I agree 100%.

The reason this thread has rubbed so many people the wrong way is that
MOST of us started smoking for this very reason... when we were 14 years old, MANY years ago,
when there was not as much info as there is today.
Many of us have struggled with this addiction for YEARS with no end in sight, until NOW...
and NO, it is not just about the nicotine... it is so much MORE than that.

Smoking is not just the addiction to nicotine, it is the breathing... the taste,
the hand to mouth habit that has become a part of us, over the years.
Quite frankly, I have NO IDEA how to be a non smoker... I have been doing it most of
my life.
Fact is, I have been smoking over 2 packs a day for over 20 years.. and
I don't even need much nicotine in my e-cig to be comfortable.. This is just not about the nicotine
to me, it is more about the habit of holding it in my hand, bring it up to my mouth.. the breathing ... etc.. etc...

the ritual of the hand to mouth and holding the cigarette become the hardest part of the habit to quit..
If it was just about the nicotine, then the gum and patches would have been more successful.

 

[Vapez]

Exactly!!! I agree 100%.

The reason this thread has rubbed so many people the wrong way is that
MOST of us started smoking for this very reason... when we were 14 years old, MANY years ago,
when there was not as much info as there is today.
Many of us have struggled with this addiction for YEARS with no end in sight, until NOW...
and NO, it is not just about the nicotine... it is so much MORE than that.

Smoking is not just the addiction to nicotine, it is the breathing... the taste,
the hand to mouth habit that has become a part of us, over the years.
Quite frankly, I have NO IDEA how to be a non smoker... I have been doing it most of
my life.
Fact is, I have been smoking over 2 packs a day for over 20 years.. and
I don't even need much nicotine in my e-cig to be comfortable.. This is just not about the nicotine
to me, it is more about the habit of holding it in my hand, bring it up to my mouth.. the breathing ... etc.. etc...

the ritual of the hand to mouth and holding the cigarette become the hardest part of the habit to quit..
If it was just about the nicotine, then the gum and patches would have been more successful.

Correct. I've smoked since I was 12-13 and I am 18 now. Stopped smoking right after I saw my SO's + sign on a pregnancy test. I stopped for my daughter and switched to the much safer thing called vaping.

I smoked a pack a day from the age of 13-14 and until I was 17/18. I got really addicted during that time, and couldn't stand an hour without a cigarette. On the weekends and when I was bored, I often smoked 2 packs a day. The strongest cigs on the market and rolling tobacco.

But I managed to quit to vaping. Still can't stand a lot of time without either the nicotine or the actual smoking/vaping part. Everyone's story is different.

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[WattWick]

Every group of vapers need someone to point out things like

"Those things are worse than cigs"
"I heard ecigs explode all the time"
"You know there's formaldehyde in those?"
"Bubblegum flavor attracts kids"
or just the good old "cough cough"

Plenty of things to do while you don't vape with your friends.

 

[Rizzyking]

If your need to be part of the crowd is so strong just bum something off your friends and be done with it. Being honest at this moment in time when vaping is under such threat people like you op are annoying as your the epitome of what the opponents of vaping have been shouting about. I've got no time for social vapers flame me if you want but for me vaping is the smokers best chance and one that should still be available in an effective form for any smoker in the near and long-term future. Social vapers don't care about that they don't care about vaping because when it's legislated to death they will move onto the next thing that's the social fad and it will not affect them much at all not so for the millions who in future won't have the option. Op either get a bit more secure about yourself so you don't feel the need to fit in or get new friends but do everyone a favour and do not start vaping.

 

[SirVtHondaGuy08]

Never start someone because you feel like the odd man out, vaping like others said is our way to get smoking and try to get a little healthier. Vaping isn't 100% safe and shouldn't be started just to look cool or fit it, enjoy being able to breath fresh air and not worry about a fix.


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[madda]

You want another bad habit? Vaping is unhealthy. There's no healthy way to do it. Don't start.

Statements like these are cherry picked by ANTZ ( they're ev'rywhere )

 

[WillyZee]

has the OP come back and answered the question on how old they were?

he/she sounds quite young.

 

[Wruff]

Statements like these are cherry picked by ANTZ ( they're ev'rywhere )

That is my statement. It is a true statement. I stand by that statement, and I vape like hell.
Why lie telling some young non-smoking person that vaping is not unhealthy?

If the person asking is trying to get off the stinkies then I tell them that vaping is probably a far safer alternative to smoking and even very possibly a life saver for some (ex)smokers, but no way would I ever encourage a non-smoker (OP) to start vaping or tell them that there is anything good about vaping for them.


Antz paranoia any?

 

[SirVtHondaGuy08]

That is my statement. It is a true statement. I stand by that statement, and I vape like hell.
Why lie telling some young non-smoking person that vaping is not unhealthy?

If the person asking is trying to get off the stinkies then I tell them that vaping is probably a far safer alternative to smoking and even very possibly a life saver for some (ex)smokers, but no way would I ever encourage a non-smoker (OP) to start vaping or tell them that there is anything good about vaping for them.


Antz paranoia any?

I agree with you 100% I've had people I work with ask about it that have never smoked and want to try because it smells good or the tricks people do are cool. I always try to steer them away.


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[Rizzyking]

No I don't think the op has answered probably read that things weren't going his\her way and just left, having l33t as part of the name doesn't give much confidence about higher age either to be honest.

 

[L33TPWNERS]

On the contrary! I've gone through and read all of your responses and I thank you all for responding in such a positive manner be it for or against me in the situation that I brought. Now, everything in my original post is completely true where I didn't want to start the habits because I was a smoker and I wanted to stop or anything like that it's purely was for the reason that I post that I wanted to be cool for my friends. Its stupid reason I'll give you that but that is the reason. Now to answer some more questions that were brought up in the thread I'm 20 years old and the reason my name has l33t in it is because that was my user name for video games when I was 10 and I just kept it for all these years. For the people who are saying that I'm the one giving vapors a bad name just because I want to partake in your habit doesn't mean that I'm going to go run to politicians and tell them "look at me I'm vaping and I'm just destroying my lungs and they are evil" I just had a question. Never the less I respect your opinion and I again I thank everybody who has responded

 

[Rizzyking]

No one is suggesting your going to use anything but your one more of a growing number of non smokers taking up vaping and one of the arguments opponents have used is something called the "gateway effect" basically they say if you never smoked and start vaping you'll move onto tobacco. It's total rubbish a few scientific studies have shown it's false but still it's thrown at vaping and you might be the latest but just on the few forums I bother with dozens of non smokers are asking about starting vaping. Some of us may be a little too passionate about vaping when seen from a more outside perspective but nearly all of us were multi decade tobacco smokers who had tried everything to kick our tobacco habit only succeeding with vaping and for many of us vaping will prolong our life. It's not about us here we've seen what's coming for a longtime and have made adequate provision for own vaping in the future, it's about fighting for the tens of millions of smokers who won't have the option available to them in future if governments and the pharmaceutical industry has it's way.

 

[L33TPWNERS]

No I completely agree! 100% Its just that almost anytime I see anyone arguing that point, it's usually in a hostile way, not a discussion format like you wrote

 

[Wow1420]

Hi L33t,

I don't go along with those getting all righteous about your post. Vape if you want to. Adults get to make their own choices.

Not inhaling is probably safer than than inhaling.

Welcome to ECF!

 

[Vapntime]

All these don't start replies....wow. I would rather see you pick up vaping rather than smoking. Vaping zero nic flavors, and not inhaling would likely cause you little to no harm when done occasionally and yes, it is fun. Do what you want to do. Listen to yourself, not those who cant stop being a parent or who are just plain condescending and self righteous.

Agree, most people sound like addicts on this thread. Have they also been blinded by the propaganda of 'nicotine is bad'? Unflavored with quality nicotine at low wattage is the safest way to vape. Good luck to you I find nicotine very helpful in my day to day life.

 

[Wow1420]

No one is suggesting your going to use anything but your one more of a growing number of non smokers taking up vaping and one of the arguments opponents have used is something called the "gateway effect" basically they say if you never smoked and start vaping you'll move onto tobacco. It's total rubbish a few scientific studies have shown it's false but still it's thrown at vaping and you might be the latest but just on the few forums I bother with dozens of non smokers are asking about starting vaping. Some of us may be a little too passionate about vaping when seen from a more outside perspective but nearly all of us were multi decade tobacco smokers who had tried everything to kick our tobacco habit only succeeding with vaping and for many of us vaping will prolong our life. It's not about us here we've seen what's coming for a longtime and have made adequate provision for own vaping in the future, it's about fighting for the tens of millions of smokers who won't have the option available to them in future if governments and the pharmaceutical industry has it's way.

What we should be fighting for is the right for any adult to make their own choice about vaping, Adults get to choose to do a lot of other things that aren't necessarily 100% safe. How many other "unsafe" recreational activities are you willing to give up once we start going down that path?

Did you see this?

I wouldn't give his type an inch.

 

[Rizzyking]

We play on a field created and chosen by others and it's a field designed to never give absolutes only endless compromises that eventually leads to the original aim we're fighting a delaying battle hoping that common sense and the growing mountain of scientific evidence become too much to dismiss. Is it how I like doing things hell no I'd rather a good clean stand up fight but reality isn't like that and if you can tell me a better way to fight this given our situation I and many others are all ears and would be happy to change tactics.