Healthiest way to vape?

[mcclintock]

Little secret your smoker friends will never tell you, they secretly wish they were the one just standing there not smoking. Don't start vaping just because you need something to do while standing with them.

No, I enjoyed smoking and enjoy vaping. Smokers only wish they didn't have the harm, and sometimes not the constantness of nicotine addiction. Mostly, they want vaping, at least idealised.

This is also what the politicians are worried about, that NON smokers will start vaping.

Many of the politicians and anti-smokers have some fantasy of a "tobacco endgame." I almost feel sorry for them a fraction of a second, that vaping has come along and now people will be inhaling for pleasure for a long time to come, except the idea that people were going to stop is false. Infact the only case where everyone might be happy no longer inhaling burning tobacco is if they vape instead.

I started smoking due to being around friends and people I was doing things with. Not to look cool, but because after 30 years of secondhand smoke I figured I might like it a lot more firsthand. I was right, too. That I was only going to do it a short while, I wasn't so right about.

 

[Delro]

No healthy way to vape my friend. If you want to start it then by all means go for it, just know that anything unnatural such as vaping is going to be negative and not positive to your overall health. I do it as a oral fixation and hunger suppressor, usually only vaping while I'm watching TV before bed, sometimes a little during the day. I don't need it, I just simply enjoy the hobby - much like when I smoke my tobacco pipe or enjoy a cigar. Good luck it's your health and your life you can make the decisions for yourself. Please start because you want to, not because you want to fit in. Cheers.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

No, I enjoyed smoking and enjoy vaping. Smokers only wish they didn't have the harm, and sometimes not the constantness of nicotine addiction. Mostly, they want vaping, at least idealised.

I can agree with that. Better worded than my original response but the premise is the same.

 

[Electrodave]

A lot of us sound like addicts because we are. Simple fact.

I've been thinking about it, and I wonder how addictive this really is without being tethered to nicotine. I don't use nic myself, because I got over that a long time ago. I vape like mad, though. It does keeps me from doing other things to compensate for not having an oral habit.

But for someone that never had the fixation in the first place, I wonder. In a lot of ways, it's kind of like having a soda pop. A lot of folks need a soft drink or coffee or two or three to get through the day. I used to drink a lot of Coke before I came down with diabetes. I miss it a lot more than I miss cigarettes. But I made some Cola flavored vape juice, and it's just amazing. My brain even adds the sensation of the effervescence, apparently because it's supposed to be there.

It also seems to trick the brain into thinking you're eating. I use max VG, so everything is somewhat sweet. My wife even noticed that I'm eating less. I've lost 22 pounds since I started vaping about five months ago. I don't know how much of it I can attribute this to vaping, but that's the only lifestyle change I've made in this period of time.

I still wouldn't tell anyone to vape just to try it out or as a social activity, but people will, and the universe will fail to come to an end as a result.

 

[VNeil]

What we should be fighting for is the right for any adult to make their own choice about vaping, Adults get to choose to do a lot of other things that aren't necessarily 100% safe. How many other "unsafe" recreational activities are you willing to give up once we start going down that path?

Only one respondent here got it right.

For all those categorically stating that vaping "is not healthy", where are the studies that back you up? I can't seem to find them.

It is truly ironic that most people here are decrying BG and ANTZ for trying to control us, and then jump down the OPs throat trying to control his behavior. As a group most people here are no better than our enemies.

 

[Rizzyking]

Not encouraging someone to take up a habit is hardly controlling and the fact is we don't know yet what harmful aspects there may be to vaping in general or specific types of vaping and pretending otherwise would truly make us no better then our opponents. The healthiest thing for the op to do is what he's been doing not smoking and not vaping or are you going to dispute that.

 

[VNeil]

Not encouraging someone to take up a habit is hardly controlling and the fact is we don't know yet what harmful aspects there may be to vaping in general or specific types of vaping and pretending otherwise would truly make us no better then our opponents. The healthiest thing for the op to do is what he's been doing not smoking and not vaping or are you going to dispute that.

The healthiest thing the OP can do is to abstain from soda, or any other forms of refined sugar. Abstain from fattening foods. No watching TV, to the gym instead. Shall I go on and on with all the things most of us do that are "not healthy"? And yes, the responses here have been very controlling. I stand by what I said but I won't argue it any further because it would be pointless.

 

[VNeil]

Not encouraging someone to take up a habit is hardly controlling and the fact is we don't know yet what harmful aspects there may be to vaping in general or specific types of vaping and pretending otherwise would truly make us no better then our opponents. The healthiest thing for the op to do is what he's been doing not smoking and not vaping or are you going to dispute that.

Oh yea, the "I dare you to prove a negative" argument. Well guess, what, you can't prove that anything we do or ingest is not harmful, can you? It was never even stated in this thread that "we just don't know", it was stated over and over again that "vaping is harmful". Just like the ANTZ propaganda. So go ahead and carry ANTZ's water for them and repeat their lies.

 

[Rizzyking]

I wasn't daring you or anyone else it is a fact until people have been vaping for a couple of decade or more we cannot be 100% certain there is no health negative. I vape because whilst I'm not 100% convinced vaping is completely harmless I am convinced its a lot better for me then the tobacco I smoked for over thirty years and will continue to do it. Am I ever going to encourage a non smoker to start vaping, no I'm not I don't think it's responsible or a good idea for the person wanting to start and that's the view I'll always have just as any adult has the right to do what they want regardless of my view.

 

[anavidfan]

Ive replied with my opinion a few times and they were not received well, but no problems.

Only thing more I want to add is this only because it shows how attitudes change depending on..

A young person (underage or of leagal age) goes to a social gathering and pulls out a cigarette ( and now Im exaggerating to show the point) the gathering comes to an almost cartoonish halt...
Murmurs begin and the person with the cigarette feels like the Devil in incarnate. Now people preceed to tell that person the harm, the evil, how he is harming everyone in a 100 mile radius, what the heck worldwide.

A young person (underage or of legal age) goes to a social gathering and opens up a beer, no one notices , no one cares... If that person proceeds to drink again, no notice is taken unless they get sick or starts a fight... Why dont people chime in to tell that person its dangers and certainly more immediate dangers to those around them if driving or getting in a fight?

I can go on and on with gas emissions, caffeine, sugars, fat, meat, insecticides...

Does someone who is intrigued by using a vaporizer, be it for the nic or not, HAVE to become addicted to cigarettes first to earn the right to decide to vape?

Its been decades now that the knowledge of smoking and cancer have been linked so why did all the ex-smokers start?

But that is my point from the beginning of all this. The OP asked what is the safest way should I start?

I can understand the defensiveness of vapers because of the ridiculous idea that vaping will turn all previously non-smokers into smokers. That its going to seduce the young and mindless into vaping to be cool , etc .... and that will be a reason to take vaping from us. The idea that some will leap into vaping "hardcore" and kill themselves and other out of ignorance. Hell people have been setting themselves, homes and forests on fire because of cigarettes since smoking began...

So what does this all mean? This is ECF, its a place people come for help and advice not to be judged worthy enough to have the right to vape.

 

[Coldrake]

My friend was showing me his setup, andit seems like "fun" per say, as in when my friends go out for a smoke break, I can go with them and not look like an ... by just standing there, or staying inside by myself. I want to join them in the healthiest way possible

You can be one of the sheep, or you can be your own man. Your choice.

 

[VNeil]

I wasn't daring you or anyone else it is a fact until people have been vaping for a couple of decade or more we cannot be 100% certain there is no health negative. I vape because whilst I'm not 100% convinced vaping is completely harmless I am convinced its a lot better for me then the tobacco I smoked for over thirty years and will continue to do it. Am I ever going to encourage a non smoker to start vaping, no I'm not I don't think it's responsible or a good idea for the person wanting to start and that's the view I'll always have just as any adult has the right to do what they want regardless of my view.

Can you be 100% certain you won't get brain cancer from your cell phone? Or your wireless router? Or last year's GMO crop won't kill you? Why is vaping, and only vaping, reserved for "we are just not sure"? While we ignore all the other risks we accept without comment?

I could equally argue that we cannot be 100% certain vaping won't save your life. It is a fact that PG is an antibacterial and antiviral. Studies have been conducted that suggest vapers will get fewer colds and flue. It is believed by some that lung cancer, which even non-smokers can get, may be caused by a virus. So I'm not 100% convinced that vaping won't prevent lung cancer, in smokers, ex smokers and never smokers. The 100% game can be played both ways.

 

[clager]

Nothing is safe anymore, the air that you breath is most probably polluted to some extent. From a medical aspect, vaping is not healthy nor unhealthy. Its our way to give up the cigarettes which ARE a bona-fide killer! for sure!

Non smokers should really stay away from vaping, there is no reason to start vaping only because of friends, let them inhale and get sick, why should you?

I am also sure that certain authorities wants us all back on harmful cigarettes, certain mortality, keeps the global balance, less pensioners to pay. You know! politics!

Don't start!