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[bruner]

Hello all!

I've been smoking since I was 14, now I'm 38... Got to try my first vape last friday from a friends "ego" I think it was called. Anyhow, I'm in love with the idea. It was just as good as a real smoke, if not better.

What I am looking for is a system as similar to the "ROK Premium Electronic Cigarettes" kit, but they only sell in the UK and not to the US.

Link to ROK for reference:
The Premium Electronic Cigarette - ROK Universal

What I like about the ROK system the best is it's PCC or "portable charging case" and the fact that I can refill the carts myself.

Can anyone point me to a similar e-cig system or kit that is available in the US?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Bruner

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Hi and welcome to ecf.
You could look at Vapor4life.com They are also having a sale today code - BeatClock. Good luck. or liberty-flight.com they have a 20% off link at the top left of home page.

sas

 

[jlarsen]

There are many devices similar to the one you linked to. I use a Halo element, very similar and you can get a PCC. If I'm not mistaken, the element is similar to or possibly a re-branded joye 510. Many vendors sell similar devices. Be wary of those that make outrageous claims about how long the cartridges last, and of overinflated prices. Check out the ECF forum suppliers link for trusted vendors that won't rip you off.

 

[bruner]

Hello SAS,

Thanks for the links. I checked both of them out, but neither really compares to the ROK model that I mentioned.

I'm really looking for something specificly close to the ROK model/system/kit.

I'm looking for a pass-though smoke (no button) that is a close as possible in size and shape to a normal analog cig. One that comes with a PCC (portable charging case) that is similar in shape and size to an analog cig case. However, I want that case to be solid plastic, not cardboard... Something strong that will last. I would also like to be able to easily refill the cartridges myself.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks again,
Bruner

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

You could try the Blu. that is the model I started on but gotta warn ya, if you are a long time smoker or a heavy smoker, it won't satisify for very long. Most ecigs that look like a cigarette just don't do it. I know, all new ecig users(myself included) wanted the new ecig to look just like a cigarette. But quickly learned looks aren't everything.
blucigs.com
here is the link. If they don't do the job, come back and we will help you out.

sas

 

[bruner]

Hello jlarsen,

I checked out the Halo site, but those are a bit too long for me. I smoke "king" analogs which are only about 3.25 inches long.

Thanks though,
Bruner

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Also Bruno,
If you tried a friends 'eGo' and then go with these(Blu)......it is like going from the attic to the basement.
sas

 

[zotzer]

Bloog MaxxFusion. The PCC (mini) is shaped more like an iPhone than a cigarette box, but it does a great job.
Good luck in your search!
Tracy

 

[Kelsey]

My boyfriend purchased a personal charging case from litecigusa, and he loves it. He got it in silver and it looks really cool and slides in the pocket easy. We buy vg/pg blends from them, empty carts to fill, premium atomizers, etc. Their customer service is great and they ship to us fast too. They sell the Ego as well and their prices are fair. Tonight him and i are buying the smaller empty bottles from there to carry our liquid in. They are located in Pennsylvania and are worth checking out. Says your in PA too so you'll receive all your items in 1-2 business days from them.

 

[bruner]

jlarsen,

The Blu model/kit looks good to me. And, I found a video on ebay that shows that the Blue cartomizers are easy to refill. Thanks for the tip about the basement and attic Yeah, that Ego model I tried worked really well, but I'm aiming for something smaller.

Any other suggestions anyone?

Thanks,
Bruner

 

[bruner]

Kelsey,

What model of ecig are you using? Thank you, I looked at the litecigusa site, but unfortunately their PCC that looks to be the proper size for me has a "button" on the outside, which is a no-no for me. That button is sure to be pushed when I carry it in my pocket.

The one I looked at is probably not the silver colored PCC that your boyfriend has, but the smaller "all black" model M401-PCC or M402-PCC.

Bruner

 

[jlarsen]

Hello jlarsen,

I checked out the Halo site, but those are a bit too long for me. I smoke "king" analogs which are only about 3.25 inches long.

Thanks though,
Bruner

Halo elements are a standard 510 battery. So size is probably not much more than the ROK (assuming the ROK uses a shorter than standard battery), about a half inch to 3/4 inch longer if used with a cartomizer. The only thing I can think of that is shorter, is Blu. I started with Blu. I would not recommend them. The PCC is really good, and the battery is short. But the battery goes dead real quick, and the cartomizers don't work well. Virtually all the other similar 510 devices are going to be the same length as the element.

I did see a site today that sold a virtual Blu knockoff. Similar pack charger, similar size, and about the same price. I can't remember what it was called or where I found it. A shorter battery though is not going to last long at all. As it is, a regular 510 battery doesn't last real long.

Like SaS said, using a Blu will be like going from the attic to the basement after trying an eGo.

My advice would be to accept the 3/4 increase in length and get a standard 510. If you want a PCC and a "buttonless" battery, most vendors sell automatic batteries. The automatic batteries can go off when you don't intend them to, further reducing the time between charges. I use both manual and automatic Halo batteries. There are advantages to the manual batteries, but there is really nothing wrong with the automatic ones either. Blu batteries are the worst at going off unprovoked. You'll only get about a half hour of continuous vaping with a Blu before the battery needs to be recharged, and the PCC charges the battery about 5 times.

I get about 90 minutes out of my Halo batteries before I have to recharge them. The extra 3/4 inch is a small price to pay. Though the PCCs for the Element and other 510s are taller and narrower than Blu, and don't hold as much extra stuff like carts/cartos and extra batteries.

Blu is also not designed to refill the cartos, they are meant to be disposable. You CAN refill them, but not as easily. You can also use other refillable cartos with Blu, but they will be about 1 millimeter wider than the battery. I did for a while, and was getting about 20 minutes of use between charges.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

jlarsen,

The Blu model/kit looks good to me. And, I found a video on ebay that shows that the Blue cartomizers are easy to refill. Thanks for the tip about the basement and attic Yeah, that Ego model I tried worked really well, but I'm aiming for something smaller.

Any other suggestions anyone?

Thanks,
Bruner

Well, My tip was to gently let you know that something smaller is not going to satisify a long time smoker, but you sound determined to find out for yourself......that's ok......some of us have to do that. We will still be around when you need us.

sas

 

[jlarsen]

Well, I found it. Pure Deluxe Kit - Pure

Other than Blu, that is probably the closest thing to ROK that I'm aware of. Though this is also designed for disposable cartos, and may also be a standard (longer) battery than what you are looking for. But the PCC looks identical to Blu, but with a different label. A standard length 510 battery won't fit in a Blu PCC - so either the PCC is taller than Blu's or the battery is shorter than a standard 510.

 

[jlarsen]

jlarsen,

The Blu model/kit looks good to me. And, I found a video on ebay that shows that the Blue cartomizers are easy to refill. Thanks for the tip about the basement and attic Yeah, that Ego model I tried worked really well, but I'm aiming for something smaller.

Any other suggestions anyone?

Thanks,
Bruner

Yes, Blu looks good...

 

[bruner]

Ok SAS

Between what you and jlarsen have brought up, I suppose I am going to have to seriously re-think the Blu idea. And, anything else that "small" or "short", for that matter.

It's a shame. It just sounds like the smaller ones won't have the battery life I will need. I know I could get though the day at work with a "smaller" style, but in the evenings or on the weekends I smoke a lot more...

Thanks folks, any other ideas you can pass by me, I will be happy to look into. This is helping me a great deal

Bruner

 

[jlarsen]

Kelsey,

What model of ecig are you using? Thank you, I looked at the litecigusa site, but unfortunately their PCC that looks to be the proper size for me has a "button" on the outside, which is a no-no for me. That button is sure to be pushed when I carry it in my pocket.

The one I looked at is probably not the silver colored PCC that your boyfriend has, but the smaller "all black" model M401-PCC or M402-PCC.

Bruner

The batteries and PCCs that litecigusa sells are identical in size to the Halo element. Halo is likely just rebranding these same type of generic Joys. Maybe the prices at litecigusa are better, I didn't check. As for the button on the battery, virtually all 510 vendors sell them in either manual or automatic.

If you are worried about the button getting pushed in your pocket, sometimes it will. But, the automatic batteries (without button) will go off in your pocket more often than the ones without it, Blu especially. That is, if you put the cig in your pocket by itself and not in the PCC.

The "button" on the side of the aluminum PCCs that litecigusa and Halo (and others) sell pops the top of the PCC. This could get pushed inside your pocket. A Blu PCC doesn't have that button.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Bruner,
There is no law that says you can't have both. just a thought. Since you know you like the eGo why not use that at night and on weekends? Also, the Blu ecig has a blue light at the end of the ecig that lights up when you draw on it,,,it can draw attention.....The eGo only has a light on the button. Just a thought....and the eGo kits aren't too expensive either.....again liberty-flight.com or look at goodprophets.com. Believe me......a lot of members here have tried just about everything, and looks don't always go with performance.

sas

 

[jlarsen]

Ok SAS

Between what you and jlarsen have brought up, I suppose I am going to have to seriously re-think the Blu idea. And, anything else that "small" or "short", for that matter.

It's a shame. It just sounds like the smaller ones won't have the battery life I will need. I know I could get though the day at work with a "smaller" style, but in the evenings or on the weekends I smoke a lot more...

Thanks folks, any other ideas you can pass by me, I will be happy to look into. This is helping me a great deal

Bruner

Regular 510s really aren't that much bigger than Blu. 3/4 inch longer, and 9mm in width versus 8mm for Blu. The PCCs for regular 510s do have that button on the side that pops them open. I do have to admit that Blu makes a better PCC in some regards. Though with Blu, you have to screw the battery into the PCC, with the others you just drop it in and close it. In addition to not having the button on the side that opens the lid of the PCC, the Blu also has more room for extra stuff.

But the superior PCC alone isn't enough to make me want to go back to Blu.

eGos have a much longer battery life, but as you know, they are larger. I like the standard 510s personally, still very much sized like an analog. More like a "wide" that is the length of a 120.

Blu batteries are either 80 or 90 mAh (they don't offer that information on their site).

A standard 510 battery is 180 mAh. So at least twice the capacity of Blu. You can get 510 XLs in the range of 250 - 320 mAh, though these will add an additional 3/4 inch to the length (so 1 1/2 inch longer than Blu).

If you use your 510 as a two-piece, it will be slightly shorter than if you use it as a 3 piece (battery, atomizer, and cartridge). ROK is a two-piece (battery and cartomizer).

Nearly everyone I know that has started with Blu gets disappointed with them rather quickly. Many, especially heavy smokers, get disappointed in the battery life of standard 510s as well.

If you had two Blu kits, and kept the PCCs charged, and 2-3 spare batteries charging at all times, it might work for you, but that's a bit of a hassle.

While you can refill the Blu cartos, you can't buy the exact same flavor liquid that Blu uses. You also can't buy unfilled Blu cartos. So you have to vape the flavor out of them, and refill them with juice that at best will only be a similar flavor, or use them with cartos purchased elsewhere that are a bit wider and use a bit more battery power.

 

[melloyello]

if you have your mind set on getting the ROK, then get it...simple as that. like SAS has said, we wont go anywhere and will still be here when you come back for "what you should have gotten". we all have to start off with something, and you had the luxury of having the ego showed to you...most of us didnt know about the ego or bloog maxx fusion etc etc. i bought an e-cig similar to ROK but after constantly charging the batteries and not knowing what vapor production could be like...i thought it was everything an e-cig could be. now that i have tried other kinds, i would never go back to it regardless if it looked like a real e-cig or not. something else to keep in mind is the refilling part of the equation, you might get 4 or 5 refills with that and then everything starts tasting burnt. if you would go with a Bloog Maxx Fusion, you get between 15 to 20 refills per cartomizer(because the heating coild are horizontal and not touching the filler). the cartomizers on the cigs you are looking at will have vertical coils and they touch the white filler(hence giving you a burnt taste after few refills). you wont be happy with the ROK for very long...but we all gotta start somewhere.