And question I have for the veteran mixers...why do my recipe's seem to fade with flavor? Sometimes it can happen in couple hours after mixing. For example I make one up of my own on flavors I like and others have said mix well together....lets take VBIC which I like a lot. I taste it after shake and vape and it is awesome. Come back just 3 or 4 hours later and the flavor is muted. Almost to where I want to add more.