Help becoming tobacco free

[Oberon75]

So here's the issue. After about 5 or 6 years of bouncing back and forth between vaping and smoking, something has to give.

Now I don't need advice on thich gear to buy or which juice to buy because I have all that and and am usually equipped with my DNA mods, various RDA's and Breeze disposables. But my problem is that I live with and am i. A relationship with a smoker who has no desire to quit.

I usually do fine when I'm at work and can manage not to smoke with my vaping products. But when I come home and sit with her when she's chain smoking, I need a cigarette. I'll start by taking a smoke or two from her to buying my own pack sometimes and not vapimg again until the next day. Has anyone experienced this or have any tips to break the cycle? I definitely smoke a lot less than I used to but need to be done with the cigarettes for good.

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[Territoo]

What strength nicotine you vaping? Most dual users are probably not vaping high enough nicotine level.

 

[stols001]

I quit a 3 ppd habit and my husband smoked through the entire quit. I think there are plenty other members on here as well that did so too.

I'm not trying to be a snot about it, and I recognize it is very difficult, but when I quit, l had to recognize that whether it was the cigarette my husband was smoking outside, or the pack I could drive 2 minutes down the street to get, well, ALL THE PACKS of cigarettes in the world were available to me. Forever.

I had to decide not to smoke them.

It is not "her" responsibility not to chain smoke for your comfort and you may or may not want to "be" with her and yes, I had a very hard time and had some catastrophic relapses but over time I just kinda got over it. I am not going to say I haven't smoked here and there I totally have but NOTHING like how I used to.

You say it's not the nic or gear, it's the girl and the cigarette so cultivate a different attitude or get rid of the girl.

Sorry but those are your options. The husband is lucky I find cigarette smoke comforting at least on people I like so I wasn't crazy stressed.

Anna

 

[Katya]

But my problem is that I live with and am i. A relationship with a smoker who has no desire to quit.

Hi Oberon. I understand that it's harder to quit when people around you smoke, but it's not impossible. I agree with Anna. You have to decide that you're quitting and then just follow through. That said, we smokers like to find all kinds of excuses--I was very good at that myself. Are you sure it's not you who doesn't really want to quit completely? And blaming your partner for your failure?

When I met my husband, I was a cigarette smoker and he would just have a cigar after dinner in our backyard. It was our together time after work and we both cherished it. And then he decided to quit--and he quit. I know my smoking annoyed him, but he never nagged. Never smoked a cigar again. I felt so guilty that I started vaping.

 

[DaveP]

Vaping took away my desire to smoke in the first few months I vaped. I was a 2 PAD smoker who loved smoking, but realized that it was going to cause early death if I continued. I dual used cigarettes and vaping in my journey to get off the smokes. 3 months later I quit buying cigarettes. Haven't wanted one since.

24mg juice was key to my being able to quit. It gave me the same buzz as a smoke. Once I was off the cigs for a few months I started buying lower nic juice and finally the cig cravings were gone and the 3mg/ml vape was my new source of nic. At that point I was fine vaping around smokers and not wanting a cigarette.

Time and conditioning is key. Vaping the right juice at the right nic level and flavor is a must. Finding that combo takes a little experimentation. It's ok to smoke and vape until you can just quit smoking and continue to vape. After 10 years, I'm still vaping and not smoking just because I enjoy vaping. I see no reason to quit vaping and doctors agree that if it keeps me from smoking a burning plant, they are fine with it.

 

[Vapemesilly]

I agree with Territoo...up the nicotine. A lot of new vapors get sucked into buying big mods and tanks and vaping 3 mg or maybe 6 mg liquid. I don't believe I could have quit smoking on 3 mg or 6 mg liquid. I started out MTL vaping at 24 mg and eventually lowered the nic content over time. I have no idea what you are vaping but if you are vaping low nicotine you're probably going to need to go up and maybe think about a different device that is more suited for higher nic liquid.

 

[Letitia]

I used 24-18mg in my STMs for at least a year after I quit the cigs.

 

[PeterKay]

So here's the issue. After about 5 or 6 years of bouncing back and forth between vaping and smoking, something has to give.

Now I don't need advice on thich gear to buy or which juice to buy because I have all that and and am usually equipped with my DNA mods, various RDA's and Breeze disposables. But my problem is that I live with and am i. A relationship with a smoker who has no desire to quit.

I usually do fine when I'm at work and can manage not to smoke with my vaping products. But when I come home and sit with her when she's chain smoking, I need a cigarette. I'll start by taking a smoke or two from her to buying my own pack sometimes and not vapimg again until the next day. Has anyone experienced this or have any tips to break the cycle? I definitely smoke a lot less than I used to but need to be done with the cigarettes for good.

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Might be a good idea to convince the missus to smoke outside. Nobody likes a stinking house- clothes, furniture, window shades, literally everything. For a non smoker to enter a smoker's house is like going into a stinking ....hole. The past 5 years when I smoked, I never smoked inside the house, even though I could. My partner smoked as well and she'd go outside to smoke. Going out on the balcony or porch is really a small effort your lady should accept, especially if your quitting is concerned. Relationship is about compromise, in the end of the day, it's not you asking her to quit, you're just asking her not to do it right next to you while you're trying to quit. It's a matter of mutul respect.
If she smokes outside it will be much easier for you to cope. But you also need a good mindset, however, judging by your post, you're on a good path. And like others said, try increasing the strength of your juices, and consider nic salts for your rba's (if you're vaping 3mg, try 6mg nic salts in your rba's)

 

[Topwater Elvis]

So here's the issue. After about 5 or 6 years of bouncing back and forth between vaping and smoking, something has to give.

Now I don't need advice on thich gear to buy or which juice to buy because I have all that and and am usually equipped with my DNA mods, various RDA's and Breeze disposables. But my problem is that I live with and am i. A relationship with a smoker who has no desire to quit.

I usually do fine when I'm at work and can manage not to smoke with my vaping products. But when I come home and sit with her when she's chain smoking, I need a cigarette. I'll start by taking a smoke or two from her to buying my own pack sometimes and not vapimg again until the next day. Has anyone experienced this or have any tips to break the cycle? I definitely smoke a lot less than I used to but need to be done with the cigarettes for good.

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No to state the obvious, you know what the problem is, and what it causing it.

If you were a former alcoholic that truly wanted to remain sober there is very little chance you'd be successful when in a relationship and living with a person that drank heavily on a daily basis in front of you with various alcoholic beverages in easy access around the house.

Either be satisfied with the amount you don't smoke or eliminate the causation & easy access from your life.

The main reason I quit smoking & started vaping was because my wife wanted to quit smoking.
She found it difficult while I was still smoking, I never smoked in the house, a vehicle or upwind of her outside.

 

[Oberon75]

I'm not trying to blame the girl as much as I'm blaming the cigarettes. It was the same thing when I was workimg out of town in Florida with coworkers for two months in the spring.

I am using 6mg but vape it at 120 to 130 watts on quad core fused Claptons. I'm also using 50mg breeze disposables which I keep with me along with my mod. It's just that a Marlboro gives me this certain sensation and authentic flavor that vaping could never mimic. I do very good when I'm not around the cigarettes. Then after fighting the urges for a couple hours at home, I end up giving in unfortunately.

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[evan le'garde]

Maybe incorporate a sense of humour with your girlfriend over your conflicting habits. Lets see who can fog the room out the quickest !. Buy her some weed and get her hammered, that should slow her smoking down a fair bit. It may also prevent you from smoking at all. Just smoke a bit of weed if you want to have a smoke. Honestly, most people can't be bothered to do anything once they're stoned let alone smoke cigarettes. At least both yours and her habits would have something in common. If you instead spend that spare cash you'd spend on cigarettes on weed then you'd give yourself no other options anyway. It would definitely turn out to be a good laugh if nothing else.

I dunno !.

 

[rosesense]

Maybe I am weak but I don't think I could have stopped smoking if someone in the house was still smoking. At work, when I went outside to vape (we had to from early on), my friends would blow cig smoke in my face, I would move farther away and they moved closer to me. I finally had to start sitting in my car to avoid them.

I guess bottom line is you do what works, if you really want to quit.

 

[DaveP]

Maybe I am weak but I don't think I could have stopped smoking if someone in the house was still smoking. At work, when I went outside to vape (we had to from early on), my friends would blow cig smoke in my face, I would move farther away and they moved closer to me. I finally had to start sitting in my car to avoid them.

I guess bottom line is you do what works, if you really want to quit.

I agree. It doesn't bother me to walk through an mall entrance where someone is smoking 10 feet from the door, but it would be aggravating to have to put up with a smoker in the house after vaping for a decade and not even thinking about cigarettes. I started vaping in 2010 and shortly after my wife quit smoking using a prescription. I enjoy vaping and decided there's no reason to quit. My wife doesn't mind unless I vape a flavor that's obnoxious. I vape unflavored most of the time and only add flavor on rare occasions. With the right atomizer plain old PG/VG/Nic actually has a nice flavor.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

I'm not trying to blame the girl as much as I'm blaming the cigarettes. It was the same thing when I was workimg out of town in Florida with coworkers for two months in the spring.

I am using 6mg but vape it at 120 to 130 watts on quad core fused Claptons. I'm also using 50mg breeze disposables which I keep with me along with my mod. It's just that a Marlboro gives me this certain sensation and authentic flavor that vaping could never mimic. I do very good when I'm not around the cigarettes. Then after fighting the urges for a couple hours at home, I end up giving in unfortunately.

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I wasn't attempting to place blame anywhere.
Folks struggle with all sorts of things that are habit, they're tempted by, crave, maybe addicted to from sugary soft drinks to as wild as the imagination can get.

If you do good when you aren't around cigarettes,,then you have to distance yourself from those things you are tempted by.

If ' the girl ' actually cared the least bit about you, your life decisions and health she would make effort to help, certainly would not be a trigger or an enabler when it comes to your choice to stop an extremely unhealthy habit.

Of course there is a lot of truth in the old determination & willpower personal responsibility thing.

I never wanted to quit smoking, just sorta happened when I took responsibility for my actions as they related to my wife's desire to quit.
I didn't do it for her, it was just time to turn the page on an old chapter and start on a new one, a healthier one without smoldering tobacco and the factually known health risks.

 

[vaper1960]

So here's the issue. After about 5 or 6 years of bouncing back and forth between vaping and smoking, something has to give.

I've been bouncing back and forth for a couple years. Different reasons (stress... my living situation... long story but let's just say I'm stuck for now with my 81 year old mother and I'm almost 60 myself) Being around smokers was never a big problem for me (even my wife still smoked and friends smoked but we all did it outdoors) I never smoked or vaped indoors so that would be a big issue for me. Also, it's not just nicotine (vaping is a great way to replace that need) but tobacco has other compounds that can really be hard to give up. Have you considered "snus"? Long story short... don't hate yourself, don't hate others that smoke around you (I know, you don't put the heavy blame on others... good) If you have to, "vape like hell" for awhile. If you really feel the need, light a smoke, take a couple drags and remind yourself "I really do enjoy the vape more" Put it out and grab your vape

 

[stols001]

My husband smokes outside and in the garage. It helps. Thing is I always have a pack of smokes ON my person. I VERY VERY rarely (think once every 6 months) stress smoke. It seems really dumb to keep buying a new pack when I need one that infrequently, and like, well, I don't THINK about them, I don't even really keep track of where they are, and I hardly EVER smoke. From 3 ppd, to 1 every 6 months, I am not worried. Although if it is "The one" that gives me lung cancer, well, oh well.

For example the gate was left open packing yesterday. The damn dog is gone. This is our fondest dream/worst nightmare and if I wind up having to tell the kid, l will smoke.

Gah.

You just gotta decide. It's really weird, that pack does NOT occupy my mind at all, except if I am INSANELY stressed.

Anna

 

[zoiDman]

So here's the issue. After about 5 or 6 years of bouncing back and forth between vaping and smoking, something has to give.

Now I don't need advice on thich gear to buy or which juice to buy because I have all that and and am usually equipped with my DNA mods, various RDA's and Breeze disposables. But my problem is that I live with and am i. A relationship with a smoker who has no desire to quit.

I usually do fine when I'm at work and can manage not to smoke with my vaping products. But when I come home and sit with her when she's chain smoking, I need a cigarette. I'll start by taking a smoke or two from her to buying my own pack sometimes and not vapimg again until the next day. Has anyone experienced this or have any tips to break the cycle? I definitely smoke a lot less than I used to but need to be done with the cigarettes for good.

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No two ways about it Oberon75, you're in a Tough Spot.

Because Quitting Smoking can be the Hardest thing a person does in their life. Even when they are Completely removed from it.

So the Question is, what did your Girlfriend say when you talked to Her about all this?

 

[PeterKay]

my friends would blow cig smoke in my face, I would move farther away and they moved closer to me

"friends"

 

[PeterKay]

My husband smokes outside and in the garage. It helps. Thing is I always have a pack of smokes ON my person. I VERY VERY rarely (think once every 6 months) stress smoke. It seems really dumb to keep buying a new pack when I need one that infrequently, and like, well, I don't THINK about them, I don't even really keep track of where they are, and I hardly EVER smoke. From 3 ppd, to 1 every 6 months, I am not worried. Although if it is "The one" that gives me lung cancer, well, oh well.

For example the gate was left open packing yesterday. The damn dog is gone. This is our fondest dream/worst nightmare and if I wind up having to tell the kid, l will smoke.

Gah.

You just gotta decide. It's really weird, that pack does NOT occupy my mind at all, except if I am INSANELY stressed.

Anna

Everybody's different, that strategy wouldn't work for me. If I had a pack of cigarettes available when I was quitting it would end badly

 

[PeterKay]

For example the gate was left open packing yesterday. The damn dog is gone. This is our fondest dream/worst nightmare and if I wind up having to tell the kid, l will smoke.

Hope your dog finds its way back... I'd be devastated