HELP Girlfriend (nonsmoker) wants a PV

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Leal

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p.s. your girlfriend is not a NON-smoker....she is an EX-smoker. there IS a difference

I want to expand on this line of thought. You're girlfriend is craving the act of smoking to reduce stress. I have been an ex-smoker a few times in my life. When I stress the first thing I want is a cigarette and each time I have quit I knew exactly how a cigarette would taste when I started again. Like a little burning paper tube filled with heaven. Funny thing though is last week I was super stressed from a death in the family and many other unfortunate life events. So I had a cigarette expecting that little piece of heaven. Nope it was disgusting I put it out before halfway through and went back to vaping.

It also sounds like your girlfriend is a strong capable woman. Treat her as such.
 

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We have 2 little girls living with us and what do you think they will see with both of us puffing away on the couch? Ive smoked throughout my daughters life (she is 6) and now shes sees me vape and I still explain to her that it's not a good thing to do. My gf has a 2 year old and she doesnt know the difference, but both of the girls look up to her so much because she is a woman. I feel that if she starts vaping too the kids will be smoking at 13 and will have learned by example.


/end rant

I'd be more concerned about your daughter deciding to be a sexist hypocritical a$$hole.
monkey see mokey do after all.

I'd love to call your girlfriend and tell her she needs to ...., now.
 

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You do have a third choice. Help her pick out a decent vaping kit and find some 0 nic juice. If she is going to do it with or without you then far better to see her set up decently. Who knows what head games she is dealing with if stress is triggering it. She might just flat miss the inhaling and exhaling of smoking but not the cigs themselves.

If you think its a bad example for the kids then it is a bad example from either of you. Why do you get a pass on it and she doesn't? Are you sure it isn't just you wanting to keep your hobby for yourself? Understandable if you do since it has been solely yours so long. Maybe a bit more thought is needed though on why YOU feel how you do about her vaping.

You would really break off a relationship because shes going to vape? Something else has to be going on here.

What addiction? 0 nic?

Think like an ex smoker yes? She is obviously missing something. If that continues to be denied her resolve to stay quit will crack. DO you want her vaping zero mg now or smoking again later and have to go through the whole quitting nightmare all over? Believe me I know about quitting for years and stress sets off the chain reaction that starts the cigs again. She is trying to head that off at the pass.

As for thinking like a child it is NO different for you than it is for her.

I am just going to reply to the op here and then go through all the pages, but what I was going to say is basically what Myrany said here to the OP.

One more thing I would like to add is that you said you have 4 years of vaping experience, then you can use that to help her get off to a good start in vaping and get gear that you know from experience is quality. If she does not have time to fiddle with something that's gone wonky then shouldn't YOU maybe try and fiddle with it and pass her a working piece of your gear instead?

If you are in a relationship you should be trying to support her if she is that set on vaping then do what you can to guide her to what's going to make the experience great for her. I quit for a year cold turkey and smoking still had that pull for me. If she is asking to vape then she probably wants something that will get rid of that pull and you know vaping can be it.

Unless you're one of those "gateway drug" people and if that is the case I would like to see your proof.
 

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She hasnt smoked since I met her, she hasn't smoked in years, why start vaping now and have it possibly turn into smoking again? Why risk it? Why ruin the streak and accomplishments you made?

skyztheLynnit if you woke up tomorrow and all your stash was gone and ecigs had vanished from the earth are you confident you wouldnt buy a pack? Why chance that?

Am I being that irrational?


Yes you are. Make your choice, support her or risk her smoking again. Which is worse? Stop being a condescending jerk. She is asking for help, give it to her.
 
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Hey, I'm going to sit here and eat this big piece of chocolate cake in front of you, but you can't have any because it's not that healthy and you might go back to eating double chocolate cake and the kids will be more likely to eat it later on in life if you do.

I have no self control, even when it comes to influencing my children in a negative way, but you do, so you have to be the better role model.

That's what I got from this post...and have to say you aren't being very fair or understanding of someone who is asking for help so they don't introduce analogs back into their life. It's really sad that you took this kind of stance.
 

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Awe...no this isn't a big deal! You need to help her and support her! I was a recovered smoker when I started vapeing. My boyfriend is as well. When he saw that I was craving analogs he got online with me and helped me find an ecig...it's expensive sometimes and it's a pain but if she needs something to relax and stay off the analog you should nurse that. My boyfriend didn't TELL me to go vape...and he didn't stay in my way...he was just there for me. That's her decision. I don't think your children will suffer, as long as you draw the line and make it known what's smoking, what's vapeing, and what's right and wrong.children growing up in smoking households aren't more likely to smoke. From personal experience my mother grew up with a mother who smoke in the car with five children with the windows rolled up. But my mother grew up to HATE smokers with a passion. On the other hand I grew up with parents who didn't smoke or drink and here I am vapeing...it's not what you're raised around its who you are. You will be fine!

I hope you stopped thinking about breaking it off over this. It breaks my heart that you feel that way. Vapeing isn't the end of the world; it's the start of a new one. People are who they are and sometimes you're a vaper. It sounds stupid...yes...but when you feel like you need something you won't be happy till you get it.

I hope this helped! Stay strong.
 

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My Mom smoked all through my childhood. At the dinner table, on the toilet, on the couch watching TV, and in the car with the windows rolled up and the heat blasting all winter. The only escape was climbing over seats to sit in the back of the station wagon. My Mom was most definitely NOT the reason I smoked. My cool friends at the age of 15 got me into smoking. My lack of self esteem at that age got me smoking and later, drinking. Unless you and your GF have the coolness factor of Bradgelina (back when they were hot), when your girls become teenagers, you will have absolutely no cool influence on them whatsoever! C'Mon! Help your GF! The way you described her, it sounds like a cry for help! The girl is stressed out! Hook her up with some 0mg, one of your kits, and if she likes vaping, get her something simple like Ego batteries and Vivi Nova tanks. Are you afraid she may become a PITA, always asking "how this?" And "why that?" If she quit smoking on her own, and something failed, she should be emotionally equipped to do without, or have backups for the backups. The beauty of being a woman is having a purse to bury a spare bottle of juice and an extra atty! She may save your .... one day!

And to break up over a little thing like this? Would hate to see what would happen if a real argument happened! Wow! And I agree with Tech (post below) and to have kids in the middle of this? Don't worry about the little girls picking up vaping down the road of time (kids do worse) Think of how you would look to them kids if you dump Mom, or Step Mom for something as minuscule as vaping! Sucking a little steam could not be as scarring as that! The original post is up, we are merely responding to it!
 
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I am truly glad I am out of the dating scene. I think I would smash a Provari on your head if you were MY boyfriend and tried to sell me on your "logic."

Flattered, but I dont date trolls.

She wasn't asking you out.

Damn straight I'm an expert, but that doesn't help her at work, when I'm not around, when she forgets stuff in the AM. I can do all I can do but I work 2 jobs and am not there 24/7 to see her through...

Huh?
 

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Damn straight I'm an expert, but that doesn't help her at work, when I'm not around, when she forgets stuff in the AM. I can do all I can do but I work 2 jobs and am not there 24/7 to see her through...


I think he was under the impression that if she forgot to bring her vaping supplies, she would run to the nearest store and buy a pack of analogs.
 

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I am not gonna read the 10 pages of comments.

Why would you think that her vapeing would turn her back to smoking? If she quit 6 years ago without vapeing then in my opinion vapeing would only help this. Vapeing is not like smoking AT ALL. Cigarettes taste like sh:censored:it and vapeing does not.

Let the woman vape and educate your children appropriately by letting them know that what you are doing is something that adults do and when they are old enough to understand then they can make a decision about their vapeing or not.

You asked...
 

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So here's the deal,

My gf of 18 months has now stated that she is getting an ecig whether I help her or not. I've been vaping for 4 years and have thrown at least 3k into this ''hobby''.

She has been smoke free for 3 years buy her own will, she smoked for about 6 years beforehand. she refuses to listen to me any more about how she may quit ecigs and go back to smoking. she has no temptation to smoke but wants to vape very bad now saying it's because of stress. I have refused to help her for the past few months in finding a device, now she says shes going to a local B&M to get advice there.

I don't know why someone would even want the temptation of smoking when they've been clean that long without vaping. what happens when she runs out of juice? Or discovers that her device now sucks? Or starts getting dry hits and can't find the time to fiddle with it? Or she can't find a ADV and starts smoking a few stinkies a day? The sensation of vaping is akin to smoking and it is very easy to fall of the wagon when your a newbie and inexperienced.

I feel responsible for all this as I'm casually puffing away all day long. We have 2 little girls living with us and what do you think they will see with both of us puffing away on the couch? Ive smoked throughout my daughters life (she is 6) and now shes sees me vape and I still explain to her that it's not a good thing to do. My gf has a 2 year old and she doesnt know the difference, but both of the girls look up to her so much because she is a woman. I feel that if she starts vaping too the kids will be smoking at 13 and will have learned by example.

she doesnt understand that vaping is just as addicting as smoking but (hopefully) healthier. I feel that I either need to quit vaping and sell my stash or break things off, I don't think she will listen to me anymore and will just try to hide it from me. stressed.

/end rant

Dude, simple as this. Buy some 0mg juice and let her vape. All is well in the land of Men.
 

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Damn straight I'm an expert, but that doesn't help her at work, when I'm not around, when she forgets stuff in the AM. I can do all I can do but I work 2 jobs and am not there 24/7 to see her through...



I think he was under the impression that if she forgot to bring her vaping supplies, she would run to the nearest store and buy a pack of analogs.

I kind of got the impression he was questioning her intelligence. He stated she is a "stronger" person than he is because she quit cold turkey years ago - but he also stated they've only been dating 18 months. Was she stronger before she met him? I get a bit confused when things I read overlap.

ETA: I'm overly sensitive tonight. "Let her vape in peace," sounds better to me than "Let her vape." She doesn't need permission. And why can't she choose her own nic level?
 
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I kind of got the impression he was questioning her intelligence. He stated she is a "stronger" person than he is because she quit cold turkey years ago - but he also stated they've only been dating 18 months. Was she stronger before she met him? I get a bit confused when things I read overlap.

He was questioning it, but for his own selfish reasons, instituting illogical statements to get approval from the audience.

I'm pretty sure she has been and will always be stronger with self control in relation to the poster.
 
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