Help, I'm new and completely lost as to what to buy

[Kat77]

I'm a pack a day smoker for 18 years and begin looking into ecigarettes as an alternative since my fiancee is allergic to cigarette smoke but there's so much conflicting advice out there on *what is the best for a newbie* that I'm completely lost as to what to buy.

I was looking at the 510 with a PCC as an option but idk how well it would hold up to heavy use or how much of a pain it would be refilling cartridges as I do plan to experiment with different flavors. I looked at the 510t as an easier option but then i saw that they recomend not using VG liquids or VG mixes in it and unfortunately I've only found one juice supplier in Canada so far and they are a PG/VG mix. Dripping wouldn't fit into my lifestyle but flavor is important to me as well. I don't need extreme vapor but something balanced between flavor/vapor with decent longevity that can satisfy my nicotine craving and versatile enough to handle a quick flavor change. I have no clue if I'm asking for the impossible but any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

[RaRvn]

Hi Kat77. I don't have a clue what to tell you since I am new myself, but congrats on your decision to get off tobacco. And congrats on your engagement!

Good luck. Someone with more brains and experience will be along shortly to help you, I am sure.

 

[MadValleyVapingMama]

Welcome to the forum Kat

I would recommend an eGo over a 510, they have a bigger battery so don't need to be charger as often. A stardust or 510 vision is a nice easy tank to fill and use.

If you check out the Canadian sub forum you'll get lots of info on Canadian suppliers/vendors. Personally I like canvape for all my hardware needs, great service, prices and customer service, not that the others are bad though.

If you smoked strong cigs, I'd suggest getting some 24mg nic juice. It's also a good idea to get a bunch of different flavors in sample sizes. You have a better chance of finding what you like this way, and if you end up with some you totally dislike your not out much $$$

Canadian nic juice supplier names are only available through Private Message, due to HC trying to shut them down.

Most, if not all e-cigs are fine using a PG/VG blend.

Just keep asking question, this is an awesome forum with the most helpful people

 

[dlsw]

Hi and welcome!!!

 

[Kat77]

Thanks for the welcome

Welcome to the forum Kat

I would recommend an eGo over a 510, they have a bigger battery so don't need to be charger as often. A stardust or 510 vision is a nice easy tank to fill and use.

If you check out the Canadian sub forum you'll get lots of info on Canadian suppliers/vendors. Personally I like canvape for all my hardware needs, great service, prices and customer service, not that the others are bad though.

If you smoked strong cigs, I'd suggest getting some 24mg nic juice. It's also a good idea to get a bunch of different flavors in sample sizes. You have a better chance of finding what you like this way, and if you end up with some you totally dislike your not out much $$$

Canadian nic juice supplier names are only available through Private Message, due to HC trying to shut them down.

Most, if not all e-cigs are fine using a PG/VG blend.

Just keep asking question, this is an awesome forum with the most helpful people

Ok well now that I have some suggestions I have more questions LOL

First off. It's hard to tell a size difference between the 510 and the eGo. Would the eGo be more cigar sized or smaller?

Did you mean the eGo Vision Star Dust? I did manage to find a review of that one by a member from here and it did look to be something with potential for me. I'm all for hassle free, quick change and easy cleaning is nice but I guess in the end it's one of those gotta try it to see if I like it things.

Thanks for the tip about the Canadian sub forum. I need to get more posts in before I can get that list. Don't even get me started on HC and stupid Canadian laws.

As far as what i smoke it's been John Player Blue for a dogs age. I think they'd be mid range in strength and I figured on getting some sample sizes in 24mg and 18mg to find my happy zone and flavors. While I'm talking about flavors... I'm a big vanilla fan... I read that TastyVapors does a really good vanilla. Any other brand suggestions to look out for?

I guess the part I read about VG mixes was outdated.

 

[acorn54]

i have been on ecigs since 2010. i am not very knowledgeable about the ecig stuff. i was just looking for a simple device that would let me kick the habit of analogs.
i just use the 808's. all it needs is a cartomizer for the fluid. it worked in getting me to kick the habit of analogs.
i had to try various vendors of 808's and their cartomizers,before i landed on a vendor (vapor 4 life) that sold quality and reliable products. their wow cartomizers in combination with their xl 808.'s offers the best i have experienced in both simplicity and performance.
there are alot of people on this forum that get a kick out of all the devices and ritual of vaping. i am not one of them. i was just looking for something simple to get me away from the unhealthy addiction of analogs.
hope this helps.

 

[Digital-Dragon]

Welcome kat! I'll just say that a standard setup for a whole lot of folks is an eGo style device, I like the riva better, with a 510 or 306 atomizer, and a drip tip for direct dripping. Hope this helps you.

 

[RocketRod]

Welcome Kat77 from Nova Scotia! Were glad your hear and asking questions. I haven't been around long and am also new to the ecig system. The KGo system seems to be advised more and more in threads for noobs. Here is why. 1100 Mah battery, it will easily last you all day without charging. It produces a steady 3.7v for a warmer vape. It has at least a 1ml tank to hold your e-juice. What most would recommend is to go with it as an extra are Boge 1.7-2.0 ohm cartomizers and a drip tip. Or you could get a 3.5Ml tank/carto combo that may also last you all day. They are inexpensive. Look for one in the 1.7 ohm range. Don't go overboard on e-juice, and don't let shipping charges per order scare you. I have about 100ml of juice I thought I might like, and gave it away. Sample packs that some vendors offer are good for a start. Consider a mixture of nicotine strength. Maybe 24mg for first thing in the morning, 18mg throughout your day, and 12mg or less after dinner until bed. I for one, and others had trouble falling asleep and vivid dreams when using med or high nic before bed. PG=Flavor & TH, VG=vapor. Higher nic is also TH. I use 80/20 and it wicks well in carto tanks. There is plenty to read here, and it's been done before. I haven't seen anyone post that they haven't been successful.

 

[PaporPlas]

Good luck Kat77!

Welcome to ECF...

 

[knivesout]

I'm pretty new to and was in a similar quandary trying to figure out what to order.

I didn't smoke as much as you do, but I'd still probably recommend what I went with as far as juices, which would be 18-24mgs. Definitely seems to be enough to stave off the nicotine cravings, although there are many variables besides just the nicotine content of your juice that will impact the actual amount of nicotine that you absorb.

As far as the kits go, I kept seeing the kGo and E-power kits recommended for a new vapers and ended up going with the e-power myself (just since the battery, switch, cone, and battery tube can all be replaced if need be). Either one should provide enough power to get through the day on one battery, and I believe they both operate at 3.7 volts. These are a bit more in line size-wise with a cigar as opposed to a 100 cigarette, but that's the price you pay for the longer battery life. Recommended vendors seem to be hoosierecigsupply.com and crystalclearvaping.com, although since they were out of stock, I purchased from jooglerjuice.com and got a great deal with quick shipping. Sorry, I just remembered you're in Canada and I'm not sure if any of those stores ship outside the USA.

As far as what you'd want to use on those kits, I think a cartomizer would probably fit the bill. They're pretty low-maintenance, you fill them up initially, then top off with a few drops when they start to get a little dry. They should last for about a week and then you can just toss em, or you can try cleaning and re-using as well. Changing flavors is quick and easy with cartos too if you keep a few of them filled with your favorite various juices. There's always the tank systems that seem like they'd require even less attention than a carto, but I've seen people report issues with leaking and other things, although there are people out there that use them with great success too.

 

[Kat77]

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. A drip tip set up is something I might look into down the line for using at home, but for now I'm looking for something on the quick and hassle free side. My life is very busy and I spend more time at work or out somewhere than at home so I'm thinking the eGo and a cartomizer might be the right fit for me. The size makes me hesitate a bit but if I need to adjust from a standard cigarette size to cigar sized then so be it. I guess it's time for some more reasearch but if anyone else has suggestions, I'm all ears.

 

[MadMixtress]

Hello and welcome! There are tons of great options out there, and it can be extremely overwhelming. I second Rocket Rod on the KGo. ( I have one myself and have been extremely pleased!)

If you are looking for something that looks more like a cigarette, with an automatic battery-(vapor on inhale, not with the push of a button) than you might look at KR8.
These models are kr8:

-Volt - Smokeless Image | Only The Best Electronic Cigarette | Starter Kits
-Halo G6 - G6 Basic Starter Kit - G6 E-Cig
-Smoov - Starter Kits
-Bloog - http://bloogplanet.com/starter-kits.html
-Vapor Titan/Diamond/Stealth - Vapor4Lif

If looking like a cigarette is unimportant to you, a Kgo/Ego (510) is the way to go.Plenty of options for atomizers, cartos, tanks, batteries and, yup, the Stardust. I usually get my things from Hoosier E-Cig- I am unsure about shipping to Canada etc...

This link ---> http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ping-illustrated-guide-e-cigs-part-1-6-a.html
will give you a breakdown of different types of e cigs and help you be sure what you want. Good luck to you!

 

[sandscards]

I have only been at it a month but the ego or kgo is probably the best way to start. I also really like the stardust in that they are so simple to use. With an ego or kgo starter kit, some stardusts and some juice of different flavors you are ready to go. There are also videos on the net that answer a lot of questions and when beginning it is easier to understand if you see what they are talking about. Post two more questions and you can post in other forums and get some better answers on the Canadian forum. Good luck!!

 

[Kat77]

Well I read somewhere that there were issues with automatic batteries and motorcycles so I was leaning towards manual. hehe sorry gotta get smiles working on my phone.

I'm not sure how shipping ejuice from the states to here would work but I do have family/friends down there that could send me hardware(is that what you call it? Lol) from US sites. I just don't want them to get in any trouble if they tried to send ejuice so planned on getting my five posts in to get the pm of canadian sites.

 

[Kat77]

Oh... While I'm thinking about it and since I need one more post.... Can anyone tell me the difference between the kgo and ego?

 

[go_player]

Hi Kat. I'm very new to the vaporizer thing too, so please take anything I say with a grain of salt. I don't speak from experience. I have been reading a _lot_ lately though, so I think I might be able to summarize the experience of the people I've been reading.

Unless you really want a vaporizer that looks like a cigarette you might as well get something with a relatively big battery. Yes, it will look like a futuristic sex toy. But given how socially unacceptable smoking has become, carrying around a futuristic sex toy is likely to be better for your image than carrying around something that looks like a cigarette. I don't mind the fact that my stainless steel eGo looks a bit weird- the median age in the town I live in is 20 (we have a big University here) and in just one outing lots of hot young women came up to me asking if I was smoking crack. I'm 40, and I like the attention .

If you don't like attention it's not that hard to hide the body of an eGo-type battery in your hand, letting just the tip poke out. I have large hands (you know what they say about guys with large hands, right? They wear large mittens.) I think this is probably true even if you have small hands.

I've been looking at kit costs for myself and for my sister lately, and as far as I can tell the Riva kits at liberty flights are about the best deal out there, if you want a battery and a charger. I might get one, cause with the 20% discount you get for clicking on an image it's hard to beat two big batteries with accessories for 35 bucks. But.. maybe I want all my batteries to be pass-through so I might just get my next batteries from cignot. They have treated me well so far.

I can't really give you advice- I should really be asking for advice, and I will. But be aware that there area a lot of people out there selling what is basically the same thing for radically different amounts.


Edit: and I should add that though I am pretty much an American I do have Canadian citizenship .

Best
T

 

[Chewyorphan]

Ive been vaping a month now myself. In this month I have done a ton of reading, watching reviews, and trying things out on my own.

I highly suggest something along the lines of "function over form." Some people like the idea of something that looks and feels like a real cig, but most of those are, ahem, crappy... The easy way to sum that up is that the "realistic" brands of e-cigs and such do not, and probly never will perform like something that is actually meant to provide a good vaping experience.

I myself have been in that boat. I jumped in with something that looked and feels just like the real thing. It works yes, but come to find out that for the same price (or less even!!!) I can get something that performs drastically better!

Something easy that I have found that works great, and I can easily recommend to friends and family is the KGO kit (as mentioned above). I also like to mention to add some boge 510 low resist cartos to the order. The cartridge setup can be used, but I dont find it as desirable in the vape experience as a good cartomizer.

Filling a few cartos with flavors to try can be a little overwhelming at first, but it is definitely rewarding in comparison to the cartridge setup.

The easy part of cartomizers, is that when you fill them, you can change flavors as simple as unscrewing one, and screwing on another! If you decide on this route, be sure to keep them wet and topped off. They can get burnt and/or funky if you dont. Dont worry though, you will get a decent amount of vape time from a fill.

There are other ways to go about doing this as mentioned. With a setup like this you will basically need the batteries, charger, cartomizers (maybe some cool drips tips for style and comfort ), and lastly your juice. Going the way of the kit keeps this simple, although you can kinda personalize and piece it together if you like.

And to answer your question about kgo vs ego. The ego is what they call a "genuine joytech product" while the kgo is not. 99% of anything marked to fit on an ego should work fine on a kgo. They are both 510 threads, and have the skirt threads as well. There are a few minor differences but really not that much. The kgo batteries will provide a little more voltage to vape with. They are true 3.7v, while the ego batteries are pulse width modulated to keep a slightly more consistent vape. Egos usually test out from 3.3-3.5v. Kgo seems to also come with the 1100mah battery while egos can vary, 650 900 and 1000/1100mah. The prices on those reflect it.

I may have gone a little overboard there, but just sharing a suggestion, and hopefully some useful info

 

[Kat77]

Nah not to much info at all. I've pretty much decided on an eGo/Kgo and stardust for starters. Now just to track down a reputable site to buy them. (Preferably Canadian so I don't have to pay customs.)

 

[blackheavendust]

"Kat77;5469138 I'm a pack a day smoker for 18 years and begin looking into e cigarettes as an alternative since my fiancee is allergic to cigarette smoke but there's so much conflicting advice out there on *what is the best for a newbie* that I'm completely lost as to what to buy."
Most users start out with store bought (not on line) brand e cig with pre filled cartomizers. Those pre-filled cartos are usually have a a very basic/generic e liquid. Which for a newbie work just fine for awhile. Its just like playing golf. you can spend 4 hours and only have 2 stellar shots but it's enough to get you back on the course the next week. Even though your other 100 swings left you chasing the ball to the ends of the earth. Depending on your budget I'd say your looking at starter kit for about $100 - $150 loonies (I'm in the US so pardon) to get a good kits to experiment with about 6 weeks. 2-3 batteries, a good charger an equal amount of cartos and atty;s for each juice and you can relax and experiment for a weeks to tweak and sample and narrow down 2 or 3 (hopefully) a few juices that will you tied over until you break into the world of you tube to get reviews on e liquids and products. And dont just go into the first :this is the most awesome juice ever" to consider your purchase. There are just so many vendors, new companies. Bottom line, you"ll have to try a few ( maybe a ton of vendors equipments) before you can tweak and conclude your favorite PV devices and maybe only have 1 or 2 devices you love and 3 or 4 juices you cant live without after trying 100's. All our taste buds are different88. Set a monthly budget from $50 to up to $300 a month. Its much more a close personal scientific experiment. I've got 10-12 ego standard batteries, 50+ cartos and over 40 juices. I use 2 batteries, 1 style of carto and 3, 4 e liquids 95% of the time on a weekly basic.




I was looking at the 510 with a PCC as an option but idk how well it would hold up to heavy use or how much of a pain it would be refilling cartridges as I do plan to experiment with different flavors. I looked at the 510t as an easier option but then i saw that they recomend not using VG liquids or VG mixes in it and unfortunately I've only found one juice supplier in Canada so far and they are a PG/VG mix. Dripping wouldn't fit into my lifestyle but flavor is important to me as well. I don't need extreme vapor but something balanced between flavor/vapor with decent longevity that can satisfy my nicotine craving and versatile enough to handle a quick flavor change. I have no clue if I'm asking for the impossible but any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]

 

[bushmasterar15]

Welcome to the ECF.