Help me please im not getting it right !!

[R3dRuM]

HEy ppl,

I didn't know where to start so i figured ill just try to explain it as simple as i can.
I'm new to vaping, been about a month and 400$ later im still smoking traditional smokes.

I started out buying a smokeNV trow-away from the gaz station and it was AMAZING (GREAT taste lots of vapor only thing is i still felt like smoking for nicotine ( smoke Nv doesnt sell liquids with nicotine or i would have started there)).

So i ordered a couples kit from V2 (KR808-d1) and it was HORRIBLE, i mean TERRIBLY HORRIBLE !!!! bad taste, carts make you cough, 5-6 carts lasted for a while and all the other ones were dead or 20ish puffs and tasted of burnt.

Then i did some research here on the forums for a few days and concluded that if i wanted good carts id have to make em myself, so i bought juice from crystals (double apple, american tobaco, classic tobaco(this one is just nasty), shisha watermellon and orrange) and i got carto's from happyvaper.com 1 pack of each cart type they have for the KR808 ( one is clear, one is the bloogmaxfusion, and the cheap ones). Well the cheap ones Barely produced vapor and made you cough after every puff, the bloogmax were ok, nothing special but still bah ( there was 1 bad one in the pack), and the clear ones are great!!!!!...But they leak ( Massively, as in you take a drag and then need to take it off not to flod your battery). Ok no prob more research.

now here i am with my new janty TDTS that came in yesterday ( according to plenty of review i should be getting good throat hit and vapor... im not. And i read it can "dull" some flavors, but im not getting ANY flavor (there's a hint of double apple or mellon... but mostly taste of ... metal?? not sure how to describe)) Im not getting any of the leaks that were mentioned in many of the reviews tough... Ive tried washing the atty 3-4 times ( i used 2 techniques found on the web one is just water and other is with baking powder and vinegar ). At first i tough might just be new so i kept at it for a while and nope, 40ish drops of watermellon and 35ish of double apple i get no TH, very little vapor, sometimes makes me cough, and man juice just dissolves in it ( im talking a drop a puff more or less). I also noticed when i go at it for a good 10ish puffs in a row looking for that vapor production ( while holding it battery down to make sure the atty is nice and fed) i dont get more vapor but the taste gets worste and the atty gets so warm its almost burning.

I did call the Janty techsuport, the lady i talked to said that she had never heard of atty's getting super hot ( like mine) and she thinks i might have a defective one... so she has offered to replace them but with cartomizers, witch i agreed to. Now, Im wondering, is my janty working the way it should? Am I doing something wrong ?

If those carto's get here and they suck im all out of resource and next step is junk all this crap and stop trying to quit smoking lol ??

P.S im not looking for anything bigger then the janty JDTS dura, size is a BIG deal to me

Regards


Chris

 

[MrSmartCar]

The overly hot atty is a symptom of the atty being too dry. You should try dripping two or three drops directly into the atty and take a couple of drags via tail piping. If you get vapor, then it's a wicking problem.

 

[emsmom]

Might want to take a look at the Smokeless Image Volt. Some great videos on this too and their cartos are good and last awhile and they have the liquid to top them up to stretch out there usage. Good luck!

 

[TonyTT]

I think you need to be patient...I know it's extremely hard in the beginning, because getting of cigz is a highly stressful situation. First off, what nicotine level are you vaping at? Nicotine level has a lot to do with throat hit. The higher the nicotine level, the more the throat hit (21-24 is good for me). Other things that come into play, is voltage level, and the resistance of your atty or carto (lower resistance equals warmer vapor). However, these probably won't apply to you until you start using bigger batteries with more power. Don't use a low resistance anything on a small battery, because it could damage it.

The only thing I can recommend is upping your nicotine, and making your cartomizers, or cartridges are filled properly and sufficiently (I can't tell if you're using pre-filled cartos or buying juice and filling yourself) You need to top off your cartos regularly to keep the flavor going (that's why pre-filled is kind of a waste and isn't great for good vaping).

Also, you might be getting bad flavor from your juices for two reasons: 1) The juices are still new and haven't steeped. Steeping is essentially your juices ageing and mixing more thoroughly to fully develop flavor. This can happen by simply having your juices for a while 1 week and up, or some people leave the cap off their juice for a couple days, or let the bottle sit in hot water until the water becomes room temperature. 2) Since you smoked, your taste buds will be able to taste more in the coming weeks. It is probably a combination of these two factors.

If you have any more questions just ask, please keep us posted.

 

[R3dRuM]

The overly hot atty is a symptom of the atty being too dry. You should try dripping two or three drops directly into the atty and take a couple of drags via tail piping. If you get vapor, then it's a wicking problem.

ok i tried to see if you might be right, First off i do drip 2-3 drops directly on the atty on first load, secondly the hole in the cartridge is good ( i picked a tool and made sure its got no shiv or anything sticking out of it ). But i still think you might be right im using 50pg/50vg mixed liquids ( ill try some pure pg i ordered when it gets here). today ill try moding the hole ( making it slightly bigger)

funny thing is yesterday i set up an atty with cartridge, standing so the juice would be able to get into the atty overnight, and this morning its the same as always, gets super hot after more or less 4-6 drags and doesnt produce much vapor or taste.

 

[R3dRuM]

I think you need to be patient...I know it's extremely hard in the beginning, because getting of cigz is a highly stressful situation. First off, what nicotine level are you vaping at? Nicotine level has a lot to do with throat hit. The higher the nicotine level, the more the throat hit (21-24 is good for me). Other things that come into play, is voltage level, and the resistance of your atty or carto (lower resistance equals warmer vapor). However, these probably won't apply to you until you start using bigger batteries with more power. Don't use a low resistance anything on a small battery, because it could damage it.

The only thing I can recommend is upping your nicotine, and making your cartomizers, or cartridges are filled properly and sufficiently (I can't tell if you're using pre-filled cartos or buying juice and filling yourself) You need to top off your cartos regularly to keep the flavor going (that's why pre-filled is kind of a waste and isn't great for good vaping).

Also, you might be getting bad flavor from your juices for two reasons: 1) The juices are still new and haven't steeped. Steeping is essentially your juices ageing and mixing more thoroughly to fully develop flavor. This can happen by simply having your juices for a while 1 week and up, or some people leave the cap off their juice for a couple days, or let the bottle sit in hot water until the water becomes room temperature. 2) Since you smoked, your taste buds will be able to taste more in the coming weeks. It is probably a combination of these two factors.

If you have any more questions just ask, please keep us posted.

I know the juices are alright because i have already tested these juice on my KR808, I was always filling my carto's to the point of flooding. One of the reason i moved away from carto's was i felt you need to waste to much juice keeping it topped off. But it could be that the carto's i had werent high quality, i dont know.

 

[R3dRuM]

additionally, could anyone explain to me what i have... I looked and looked all over the forums and i cant find anything for a Janty dura JDTS... lol does it have another name also? Whats my treading fit( is it 510? or 510T i dont get it whats the difference ?) how can i find more suppliers for parts ( carto's and such)

Like for example can this fit on my janty
Blank (empty) clearomizers (cartridge + atomizer combined into a single unit with a clear shell) for the 510 model of e-cigarette.

Blank (empty) Dual Coil Blank SmokTech 510 XXXL E-Cigarette Clearomizers

Also, everywhere i read it says not to use lowREs atty's on a small battery. However my kit came with 2 Normal res attys and on the site they had a LR atty for my model and i ordered it.

Janty Dura JDTS Tank Atomizer/ 510-T
see here the option for LR or NR and i ordered one of the LR ones are they ok to use with the janty dura JDTS ( i would think so since they sell it as an option for my model ???) Also something else lol, my LR came with a cartridge attached to it but it has no bottom, im assuming im suposed to use a regular cartridge with it ?


Thanks for your time guys, really i apreciate all your imput XD

Regards


Chris

 

[aidanpryde]

Keep your head up. It takes a little bit of work to find your sweet spot of equipment and juice, but once you get there, you'll be so glad you did.

The Janty Dura is a nice battery, it is the 510 batt that many of us started with. The tank system that you picked up has been hit or miss for a lot of people, it's not just you.

Hopefully the cartos that Janty sends you will help a lot. I have tried many attys in my time and none of them are as good as a nice carto in terms of vaping joy. They may give you some slightly better flavor, but dripping can turn from great to burnt in a heartbeat.

My recommendation would be that if the cartos that Janty sends you work better for you, when they get old, pick up some Boge cartos at CrystalClearVaping or whichever vendor you prefer. I like CCV for their free shipping and 15-pack deals. These are well-tested cartos that many people swear by. The 2 ohm version should do great on your dura. They will also scale up fine if you decide to move up to an eGo or other big battery mod.

Good luck, and don't feel bad if you smoke a bit while you get this all sorted out. Once everything clicks, those extra couple of packs won't mean anything.

 

[R3dRuM]

The overly hot atty is a symptom of the atty being too dry. You should try dripping two or three drops directly into the atty and take a couple of drags via tail piping. If you get vapor, then it's a wicking problem.

I think this guy is right, I have been playing around with my janty for a few days and when they are nice and full, the atty doesn't overheat and i got some descent vapor but as soon as i get around 80% an air bubble forms in the hole of the cartridge and then the juice doesn't wick the atty properly.

Thx Mr.Smartcar for making me notice XD

 

[R3dRuM]

Nice all my stuff came in today XD

Ok first off i have 6 flavors from highbrow vapor ( different pg/vg mixes and pures with different nic lvl). and the carto's i received from janty canada where these Janty Dura DC Cartomizer

Now when i unpacked them I noticed they are 1.5 ohmz, so i called the lady and told her my battery is only 220mAh and that i read i most of my research that its not good to go lower then 2.6ish ohmz on a 220mAh... and she replys that these carto's are widely used by their dura customers and that their battery's are made for those carto's and that they garanty the battery for 6 months and not to worry and vape away.

What can you say to that lol, so i did just that. I filled my first carto using this method:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tutorials/212616-syringe-method-refilling-cartomizers.html
then let it sit for about 30 minutes.

Now the first one I did, i used a 100%pure VG RY4 from Highbrow vapor(WOOOW the smell is nice), i put about 1 ml in there, there was a little bit of a pool but when i blew in, there were no gargling sound and my paper towel was dry after wiping it. Load it up on a dura 220mAh bat and try to puff on it.

So here goes the first 2-3 puffs, first off, the draw was WAY to easy to take, kinda like im puffing into an empty straw.The taste was kinda good but also tasted of cotton or something. And its making lots of fizzling, cracking, and poping sounds.

So i give it a minute and let it rest and take another 2-3 longer primer puffs and get ready for this!!! every puff from now on, even if i stop, keeps firing into cut-off. Like its stuck on auto. I immediately stop, disassemble the bat and inspect/clean the cartomizer and bat terminals ( first off it was dry but whatever) and reassemble. No change its still auto-firing.

ok so i load back one of my original cart ( the ST atty and cartridge that came with the kit and i know worked before) and give it a try. Works flawlessly, I stop it stops, I even tried a good 6ish puffs ( had to stop the atty was getting warm).

Load back up the "faulty DC cartomizer" and it auto-fires right away right into cut-off ( its funny kinda like having a manual bat and just holding the button lol).

So i load up a second DC cartomizer from Janty sent for my Dura by a tech lady on the phone!!!
This time i dont use one of my super cool highbrow vapor liquids ( yeah right and waste another 1mlish nice) and i use a 50/50 VG/PG shisha watermellon 6mg juice from crystal ( the liquid comes from the same site!!)... yeah you all guessed it same thing works 2-3 puffs then goes wild and will auto-fire all the time, plus all the weird sounds ( im not talking that sweet sizzle of a full carto thats about to give you a full juicy puff ( only ecig i ever had that from what the smoke NV so far thank god i started with that, if i would have gone from smoking to v2 to janty i would have simply trashed it all )...face/palm... so... im out of ideas...

What should i do??
I already tried 2 carto's, Should i try em all ??? I don't wana waste all my juice... I called back but got voicemail. Ill try again a bit later but im not sure what else to do. last time i talked to the girl from janty canada she was trying to steer me into a ego ( i dont want one, i know what it is. I want a cigarette look alike to carry around and smoke till i find a mod i like/want to build or have done) witch leads me to believe they don't have much else to offer me...

Now should i get any of these ??
all these as far as i understand fit a 510 thread and are around 2.6-3ohmz witch is good ( i think) for my 220mAh bat... right ??

510 XL CE2 Clearomizer 5 Pack

Blank (empty) clearomizers (cartridge + atomizer combined into a single unit with a clear shell) for the 510 model of e-cigarette.

V510 Vision 1.2ml Long Life Clearomizer

510 XL CE3 Smokymizer Bottom Coil 5 Pack

Extreme Vision 3.5ML Clearomizer Mulitcolour and LR

XL Clearomizer 1.9 ml - SINGLES

Or will they all just fail like all the previous stuff i have been receiving ??

could anyone, please recommend a cartomizer or clearomizer or anything with a cylinder shape, fits on a 510 dura battery, and works( preferably clear, the only thing that has ever been ok since i started was a clearomizer from hapyvaper witch had a good vape but leaked like crazy)... i dont care if its DC or single or horizontal or vertical or blue or pink or short or long ... so long as it works/doesn't leak. So far everything i tried has failled.

as always i appreciate all input, thanks

Regards


Tired of these e-cigs,
Chris

 

[Poppie]

Might want to take a look at the Smokeless Image Volt. Some great videos on this too and their cartos are good and last awhile and they have the liquid to top them up to stretch out there usage. Good luck!

I second this suggestion. Good luck.

 

[R3dRuM]

I second this suggestion. Good luck.

Might want to take a look at the Smokeless Image Volt. Some great videos on this too and their cartos are good and last awhile and they have the liquid to top them up to stretch out there usage. Good luck!

you 2 mush have miss read my post. The smokeless volt is a KR808, In my first post i mention i dont like them!!!

 

[Striker911]

You sound exactly like me at first. So much so that I bought V-2 and 3 5 packs of factory loaded carts where exactly like you describe. I tried and tried with that company and the service was zero. Not one bit of help from them. I had to find a store that would help me but the drive was 2 hours away. Had to make that drive 4 times. Not over the carts cause that buy as is. I had 4 bad battery's and a charger that almost caught fire had I not noticed it was so hot u could not touch it. All that in 18 days.

My only relief was the cheap gas station ecigs called 21st century smoke. Did very well. Only had one problem with a battery and they sent me two out for free. Oh and 2 bad carts out of 12 and they sent me 6. I puffed them till I got my Provari. All my trouble was over after I bought a Arry tank. been puffing on that for about 18 hours and its still going strong. Only had to change the battery once after about 24 hours.

If u smoked more then a half a pack for about a year or so, you have to have will power to no end. Otherwise u will puff and curse all day long. They just dont deliver like we hope they will so we over work them. U need nic overload in the first 3 weeks, or the other 1,999 chemicals your kicking cold turkey will kick you. Your best bet is to get as much of your money back and get something thats tried and true. Something u said u dont want. For the first month its a tool. Get a "snap on" not a china knock off and your straight.

Dont listen to youtube reviews unless its PBusardo, igetcha69, or fuzedbox. Here is a review by Scott (igetcha69) for the Janty Ego the woman is trying to sell you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrJ-VDJlkVs
Look at the date on the review to. Early 2010. We have come a long way since then. Would make u wonder about what you got into when they pull an old moldy ace like that.
I dont think you will find any credible reviews on what you currently have unless its negative. U can find neg reviews that I personally posted on the v-2 though. The general rule of thumb is if a person seems too excited and or never says anything negative then run. Nothing is perfect. Then even if they say something negative they could still leave things out. Pbusardo usually is spot on in the negative category. He does his homework. Good luck and welcome to ECF